For those who assume supporting a Trump presidency over a Biden one means being a MAGA Trumper....

[Politruk]

But then again, that's the same ignorance that is why sane America has rejected you. Check the district maps, brah.

I'm very familiar with those maps -- the red areas are not sane. They're the places you'll find things like the Creation Museum.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Bullshit, manipulated data.

I got my data from the CIA World Factbook.

https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/infant-mortality-rate/country-comparison/

 

[JohnEngelman]

Read the Federalist Papers. The Declaration. The founders writings and letters. They STATED the intent in the founding. But that would mean being honest with history. And you can't do that. Commies usually can't.

You said that the Constitution forbids wealth distribution. I asked you to quote the passage in the Constitution where it specifically prohibits wealth distribution. You haven't done so.

The so called and greatly overestimated "Founding Fathers" were rich men. Many owned slaves. They were intelligent and well educated for their time. I am not surprised that they opposed wealth distribution.

I do not see why we should, and most of us do not. For years public opinion surveys have idicated majority support for a more progressive tax system.

https://www.google.com/search?q=pol...xBSwZZ3yxnDP2kgcEMS4xOKAHn4kB&sclient=gws-wiz

 

[Politruk]

You are literally celebrating Communist dictatorships! Those that KILL political enemies.

I am giving credit where it is due. Go thou and due likewise.

I don't care much for Hitler's regime, but the Autobahn system was a worthwhile accomplishment -- and inspired our Interstate Highway System.

 

[RoryN]

I think the crybaby thread starter has received the message loud and clear that he and others like him will rightfully be tagged a MAGAt Trump supporter for life.

 

[glamorilla]

I'm good.

 

[JaySecrets]

You said that the Constitution forbids wealth distribution. I asked you to quote the passage in the Constitution where it specifically prohibits wealth distribution. You haven't done so.

The so called and greatly overestimated "Founding Fathers" were rich men. Many owned slaves. They were intelligent and well educated for their time. I am not surprised that they opposed wealth distribution.

I do not see why we should, and most of us do not. For years public opinion surveys have idicated majority support for a more progressive tax system.

https://www.google.com/search?q=poll+++rich+++taxes&sca_esv=d5089a01cee6cf17&source=hp&ei=lZx3Z9-4DoWb0PEPytusoQo&iflsig=AL9hbdgAAAAAZ3eqpelcZoryIWWzf0g6IS7Yc3gC_5Li&ved=0ahUKEwif15CIjtmKAxWFDTQIHcotK6QQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=poll+++rich+++taxes&gs_lp=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&sclient=gws-wiz

I said it was unconstitutional. The Constitution was never given or intended as an evolving document to be interpreted as whatever the current changing opinions wanted it to be. It is a fixed document with fixed meaning to be understood and interpreted as the founders and the founding principles gave. That is why they wrote so extensively on it. Any other interpretation is playing poker with rules that change based on the wants of the players; my mix matched shit hand becomes a Full House because I want it to.

 

[JaySecrets]

I am giving credit where it is due. Go thou and due likewise.

I don't care much for Hitler's regime, but the Autobahn system was a worthwhile accomplishment -- and inspired our Interstate Highway System.

I have listened on National public radio to you and your ilk celebrating the life of Fidel Castro. Your side celebrates Marxist and communist dictatorships because that's exactly what you worship. You worship government. You believe big government is a solution to all. You have no God so big government have replaced God because you have to have authority to enforce whatever twisted agenda you want to enforce. That's why you like Castro. And it's funny that you call Hitler a fascist and compare conservatives to him yet Hitler was a socialist. That was literally in the party's name. National socialist party. You're a hypocrite. You're a communist. And people like you are the reason why people who are sane are rejecting your worldview.

 

[JaySecrets]

I'm very familiar with those maps -- the red areas are not sane. They're the places you'll find things like the Creation Museum.

Oh you mean the museum that shows that complex DNA so complex that if you change one little thing the entire thing dies, yet somehow supposedly, according to evolution evolved by random chance by small changes over time, even though those small changes would literally kill that single strand of DNA.... DNA that has code so complex even computers can't unravel it, that they show the scientific basis of creation instead of evolution. When we recognize the obvious design on things far less complex? You mean that Museum. That sounds like the sane answer to me. It's crazy to think that seems that complex and that perfect and that eloquently designed somehow happened by chance. The only reason you don't want that to be that is because that means you're accountable to a Creator and that's too much for you to deal with. The scientific evidence is heavily on the side of creation. And notice I did not necessarily say Christian creation. I said a Creator who is the one who is intelligent enough to design the things that we see around us. Study the nature of a single strand of DNA and then if you can tell me that a that single line of computer code even half that complex can happen just by random chance then you can say evolution is legit.

 

[JaySecrets]

No, it isn't -- what on Earth are you talking about?!

If you can actually find it, because it was scrubbed from the internet except for those who held onto it through the wayback machines and such, read the original text. The actual text to agenda 21. It's terrifying and it does exactly why I claim it says. The goal was to, and is to repopulate citizenry of the world into cities and let the rest of the planet go wild. It calls for population control. It calls for energy control. It calls for job control. It calls for transportation control. It is literally a plan to take away private property and put everybody under the power of a government with all their property. It calls for the end of private property. It is a Marxist government document that calls for hyper naturalism and hyper environmentalism and dehumanizing of the planet.

 

[JaySecrets]

Link those documents, if they exist.

Problem is Google scrubs. This stuff the second it comes into light. Which means the only way you can access it is if you actually have bothered have resources that can actually send you paper copies. This is the problem when you trust the internet with your information. The internet dictates what you can access. The only way you can access this stuff is through non-mainstream sources. In other words, you have to actually open hard books. Paper books. Paper documents. Things you can't link on websites. Things you actually have to do the work to actually read. Not everything that exists is available online.

 

[JaySecrets]

Link those documents, if they exist.

Oh and the audio and the videos were released and played and aired at length on non-mainstream sources. And then when the algorithm that is written got wind of it. It scrubbed them. That's how these search engines work. Understand how corrupt the gatekeepers are. The gatekeepers scrub any information that goes against their agenda and make sure it becomes unavailable unless you know where to go and even then it often becomes offline because online they scrub this content.

 

[JaySecrets]

RationalWiki is not "socialist Wikipedia". They don't have much good to say about Communism.

And the Nazis who escaped Germany and hid in the United States and used their ill-gotten money to found many of the book publishing companies that produced the education books and the books we use for history today, those companies didn't have a lot. Good to say about Nazis. You know why? If they said good things about the Nazis they'd give up the game. I wouldn't expect a socialist information site to say a lot of good about communists. That would give up the game. Of course they have negative things to say about communism and socialist regimes and everything else. If they said that socialist regimes and communist regimes are wonderful things that should be celebrated and pursued because this is what the world needs in order to overcome the evils of capitalism.... Everyone would know it was a communist site. Are you really that stupid?

 

[Politruk]

I have listened on National public radio to you and your ilk celebrating the life of Fidel Castro

No, you haven't. You're lying.

 

[Politruk]

Oh you mean the museum that shows that complex DNA so complex that if you change one little thing the entire thing dies

No, you wouldn't find anything like that at the Creation Museum.

 

[Politruk]

And the Nazis who escaped Germany and hid in the United States and used their ill-gotten money to found many of the book publishing companies that produced the education books and the books we use for history today

Now you're just hallucinating.

 

[JaySecrets]

You are a liar.

Let's pretend for a moment that your numbers are correct. They aren't. But let's pretend they are. Here's a few things that become the bigger issues and you cannot make one the equivalent of the other. We have higher rates of obesity of homicide of suicide of smoking of excessive drinking of every social ill on the planet. Because we want to live a lifestyle That is self-indulgent and is a lifestyle that is not healthy. Our medical community will tell you it's not healthy. They warn people that it isn't healthy. We choose to live in unhealthy self-indulgent ways. On top of that we like to have our preservatives which add to issues like gluten allergies and other such things. This has nothing to do with the health care system. It has everything to do with how we choose to live our lives. You don't get to take that data over there and say it is hard evidence for this statement over here. You have to take the full picture into account.

 

[JaySecrets]

No, you wouldn't find anything like that at the Creation Museum.

That is in fact exactly one of the things that are found in the Creation Museum. I know because I've been there.

 

[Politruk]

Problem is Google scrubs. This stuff the second it comes into light.

You're hallucinating.

 

[JaySecrets]

Now you're just hallucinating.

I recommend you read the book Nazi Oaks.

 

[JaySecrets]

No, you haven't. You're lying.

I actually literally remember listening to the broadcast in its entirety and being sick to my stomach because of it. Yes I have. And this and other broadcasts like it are exactly why they started losing funding from anybody who had half a brain. That's why they kept demanding more and more government money because they were losing money from donors because of this crap

 

[Politruk]

I recommend you read the book Nazi Oaks.

What, this? It's toilet paper.

 

[Politruk]

I said it was unconstitutional.

You were wrong.

 

[Politruk]

That is in fact exactly one of the things that are found in the Creation Museum. I know because I've been there.

That DNA thing sounds like intelligent-design theory. The Creation Museum is all about young-Earth creationism -- a completely different school of non-thought.

 

[Politruk]

If you can actually find it, because it was scrubbed from the internet except for those who held onto it through the wayback machines and such, read the original text. The actual text to agenda 21. It's terrifying and it does exactly why I claim it says.

If you have it, post it.