Looking for someone who has read fifty shades

lovecraft68

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I'm helping a friend with a blog article and because he knows I have a pretty good understanding of BDSM he's asked me to do something on 50 shades and how inaccurate it is.

Problem is I have not read these books, and no one is a good enough friend to me to get me to. I don't know anyone in r/l who has read them or if they have no on I really want to discuss it with.

So I have a few questions about it and am looking for someone who has read it and wouldn't mind pm'ing me and letting me ask about a half dozen questions.

You don't have to reply here, you can just pm me.

Thanks in advance.
 
LC,

I saw the trilogy in a store, and since I had a few bucks to spare, thought I'd consider buying them just to see what all the hullaballoo was about. Being the liternazi I am, though, I opened the first book about 100 pages in and began reading. Within the first two paragraphs, I found:
  • Three misspelled words (don't know if they were typos or actual misspellings)
  • Three words misused (incorrect use by context), and
  • Two errors of fact, non-BDSM related.
Within the remainder of that page plus the next page, I found two errors of BDSM fact (one, IIRC, referring to a cat-o-nine-tails as a flogger {they are *very* different objects!} and I don't specifically recall the other, so it was likely a minor misunderstanding of our culture). I'm fairly sure there were also additional misspellings or words misused. At that point, I had had enough and put the book down.

There is nothing I can think of, even a FREE offer on the books for my Kindle, that would get me to read them when such a short random sampling turned up that many errors. My reading time is too precious to me at this point in my life to tolerate that kind of carelessness and ignorance in something that professes to "educate" people about the culture I have lived in and loved for more than 40 years.
 
There is nothing I can think of, even a FREE offer on the books for my Kindle, that would get me to read them when such a short random sampling turned up that many errors.

Yeah, that was me, too. I read two pages and was so disappointed with the low quality of the writing that it ceased to matter what the story was about. I know every book will contain a *few* mistakes, it's unavoidable, but this one obviously had never spent time with an editor--even for a quickie.
 
I'm helping a friend with a blog article and because he knows I have a pretty good understanding of BDSM he's asked me to do something on 50 shades and how inaccurate it is.

What kind of moron decides to write a blog article about a topic he has no clue about and neither has any interest in investigating?
 
What kind of moron decides to write a blog article about a topic he has no clue about and neither has any interest in investigating?

Politicians talk and write about things they know nothing about all the time.
 
What kind of moron decides to write a blog article about a topic he has no clue about and neither has any interest in investigating?

One who is trying to do a friend a favor.

You know friends? Perhaps you have heard the term?

I figured I would come here for some friendly help which I did receive.

But there is an asshat in every crowd.

But that's okay, I ghost these threads and know you think you're the alpha dog here.

No worries my insecure friend, I am not here to challenge your domliness.
 
LC,

I saw the trilogy in a store, and since I had a few bucks to spare, thought I'd consider buying them just to see what all the hullaballoo was about. Being the liternazi I am, though, I opened the first book about 100 pages in and began reading. Within the first two paragraphs, I found:
  • Three misspelled words (don't know if they were typos or actual misspellings)
  • Three words misused (incorrect use by context), and
  • Two errors of fact, non-BDSM related.
Within the remainder of that page plus the next page, I found two errors of BDSM fact (one, IIRC, referring to a cat-o-nine-tails as a flogger {they are *very* different objects!} and I don't specifically recall the other, so it was likely a minor misunderstanding of our culture). I'm fairly sure there were also additional misspellings or words misused. At that point, I had had enough and put the book down.

There is nothing I can think of, even a FREE offer on the books for my Kindle, that would get me to read them when such a short random sampling turned up that many errors. My reading time is too precious to me at this point in my life to tolerate that kind of carelessness and ignorance in something that professes to "educate" people about the culture I have lived in and loved for more than 40 years.

Thank you.

good one on the flogger. I did read an excerpt where he sues wire ties whi8ch I am going to make a point on and I heard a rumor there is some type of "electrical play" the author completely botches.

One thing I am curious about, but obviously you are not the one to ask is what the hell is in this that took up three books? The plot is pretty basic.
 
You are seriously telling me that it's okay to criticize a book you've never read?
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Maybe I'm an asshole, but I'm still not asshole enough to do this to _any_ author.
 
You are seriously telling me that it's okay to criticize a book you've never read?
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Maybe I'm an asshole, but I'm still not asshole enough to do this to _any_ author.

Who says I'm all out critiquing? I'm looking for inaccuracies in what the author claims is BDSM. Pure and simple points that the author obviously did not do her research.

I've read enough to know its crap, but am not masochistic enough to go through three books.
 
Just FYI - and for shits and giggles:

’50 Shades of Grey’ actor quits ’50 Shades of Grey’ after reading ’50 Shades of Grey’

Charlie Hunnam, the erstwhile star of the “Fifty Shades of Grey” film adaptation has dropped out of the production after he finally got around to reading “Fifty Shades of Grey.” Probably. (RELATED SLIDESHOW: Here is your Anastasia Steele)

The “Sons of Anarchy” actor last month was cast as the BDSM freak Christian Grey in the movie version of the middle-aged mom porn book, which is widely considered to be an embarrassment to literature and has Thomas Hardy rolling over in his grave. But Entertainment Weekly reported Saturday that the actor dropped out of the film due to “scheduling conflicts.”

Riiiight.​

There's more at the Daily Call article linked through the headline above.
 
Just FYI - and for shits and giggles:

’50 Shades of Grey’ actor quits ’50 Shades of Grey’ after reading ’50 Shades of Grey’

Charlie Hunnam, the erstwhile star of the “Fifty Shades of Grey” film adaptation has dropped out of the production after he finally got around to reading “Fifty Shades of Grey.” Probably. (RELATED SLIDESHOW: Here is your Anastasia Steele)

The “Sons of Anarchy” actor last month was cast as the BDSM freak Christian Grey in the movie version of the middle-aged mom porn book, which is widely considered to be an embarrassment to literature and has Thomas Hardy rolling over in his grave. But Entertainment Weekly reported Saturday that the actor dropped out of the film due to “scheduling conflicts.”

Riiiight.​

There's more at the Daily Call article linked through the headline above.

Omfg. Thank god. Was so sad once I heard he was going from Pacific Rim to this.

He gets to be Raleigh Beckett for a while longer.
 
Ok, I knew it was originally written as Twilight fan fiction which is bad enough but until I saw that blog and some of those quotes from the first chapter I didn't realize how really, really awful it was.

If I read the reviews correctly it's basically an impressionable girl who meets a super rich, super handsome, impossibly young to be that successful Dominant man who tops her then kind of backs off and whines about how no one gets him and that goes back and forth. So a dom who is a sub who is rich and the sub girl who holds his manhood up which makes her what??? The Domme?

Fuck it, I don't get it.

If he's so successful then what's with the crying game stuff? I guess middle aged vanilla supressed women have some kind of intrinsic need to be a mommy to a boy/dom or something.

C'mon, I love to be taken by a woman as much as the next guy.. that's just hot but when it comes to my personal issues I tend to work that kind of thing out on my own according to who I am or I bounce it back and forth with some of the awesome Dom's, Domme's and subs here.

Where was I?? oh yeah, making this whole topic about me. Sammich time!!! :cool:
 
Oh, my dear, you don't get it. It's not about an impressionable girl who falls etc-- it's about an irresistible girl who is so irresistible some dude can't stop himself from falling for her.
 
Oh, my dear, you don't get it. It's not about an impressionable girl who falls etc-- it's about an irresistible girl who is so irresistible some dude can't stop himself from falling for her.

I have a friend like that. Our theory is that she has weird pheromones. She also hates it. This book gets SO much wrong :p
 
I had a guy friend who was ostensibly like that; same theory. Oddly, he wasn't terribly fond of his own animal magnetism either. It bothered him as much that he could convince strangers to get into his buddy's car as it did that he was incapable of empathy. My other friend (his best friend) didn't see the problem with unexpectedly acquiring new passengers between the food court and his car.

I always kept my own less flattering theories about those two.

Eeee that sounds a bit like a disaster waiting to happen xD
 
It seemed to be about how if you are kinky and sadistic, you must in some way be damaged and in need of fixing.
Blech!
I do not need fixing!
 
It seemed to be about how if you are kinky and sadistic, you must in some way be damaged and in need of fixing.
Blech!
I do not need fixing!
I think that's how the author catches the mom crowd. It's a version of the bad guy they all dreamed of dating when they were younger, that taste of the unknown, the forbidden, the BAD. And don't some women want to change a man, when they find a flaw?

I also think it's a way for the author to describe the BDSM in the story. What man in his right mind would want to beat his lover? So, he has to be sick in the head. But, the sickness comes out in a sexual way, so these women can lust for the bondage, the pain and the hurt from a distance.

These very vanilla women are hungry for something they've secretly desired for most of their lives. As bad as this story is written, they look past all of the typos and aren't even aware of the inaccuracies. They desire to be possessed by this man. It's really just another romance novel with a few whips and chains added for spice.
 
you just summed up the external drama of immortal meets mortal in just about every vampire sex novel on the shelves. Add a little "woe is me I'm a monster who can't decide whether to fuck her or eat her" internal drama, and maybe some "i'm so bad ass that I have thousand year old feuds with immortals that i'm going to off in this book" schemes, and you're done.

See, I actually love this sort of thing. Except... the dude has no angsty qualms about the woo/eat conundrum.
 
Never mind the BDSM inaccuracies, I couldn't get past her being a beautiful 22 year old college student who had managed to hang on to her virginity :D
 
Never mind the BDSM inaccuracies, I couldn't get past her being a beautiful 22 year old college student who had managed to hang on to her virginity :D

It's the ultimate fantasy. Lose your virginity (at a PC age) to a hot stud that in the end stays with you. There's something about the main character not having had multiple partners before finding "the one" that attracts women. Both characters are also above average or totally inaccurately beautiful, because that's part of the fantasy, too. Not a whole lot of reality and this thing we call "fantasy."
 
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