Poets' Corner - got a gripe? Air it here

[butters]

there's a soapbox and everything!

warning; sometimes peanuts get chucked at the speaker. if you've a peanut allergy, come protected.

 

[twelveoone]

serious lack of thought
serious lack of humour
serious lack of parseing

abundance of peanuts, good night

 

[butters]

well that was pointy

 

[HarryHill]

Ambiguous too

 

[Magnetron]

* climbs up on soap box *

The errors of your ways
Lies in a bag of Frito-O-Lays
Partially hydrogenated slow death
Decays the brain like Crystal Meth
You will all suck cock in Hell with Satan
THE END

 

[theognis]

Cliques

Don't like them, but they are inevitable, unfortunately.

 

[UnderYourSpell]

Can I complain that I don't know what parseing is?

 

[HarryHill]

Can I complain that I don't know what parseing is?

You still may not know after this, but at least you'll have a good idea
..
it looks a lot like when I used to diagram sentences way back in school

 

[UnderYourSpell]

You still may not know after this, but at least you'll have a good idea
..
it looks a lot like when I used to diagram sentences way back in school

groannnnnnn ........ er thanks I think!

 

[Tsotha]

groannnnnnn ........ er thanks I think!

Don't quote me, but parsing, in computer science, is when you process a string of characters (e.g., words) using a set of rules.

An example. Each image file in your computer has a header describing its contents — that is, the format in which the actual data is stored. When you double click an image file in your computer (say, a .bmp image), the image viewer program launches and reads this image's header to know what kind of file it's reading. It discovers that it's reading a .bmp file, and it proceeds to apply the specific rules that allow .bmp files to be read (it would be a different set of rules for a .gif or a .jpg image). Remember, a computer is a machine, it works under the expectation that it's going to find what the file header said was in the file (computers are stupid that way). The process of applying these specific rules to read the file is called parsing.

That's actually why a file can be "corrupted" — the file starts being "parsed" (read by a program, by using specific rules), but at some point the parsing fails because the program finds something different from what it expected, at that point.

To see what I mean, try renaming a .doc file to .bmp — your image viewer will try to open the fake .bmp and fail, informing you there is a problem. Why? Because as it parses the file, expecting to find a .bmp, it finds something else, a .doc.

(To any computer people out there reading this: yes, I know that's not really what happens, but it's close enough to the truth and easier to understand.)

 

[butters]

Don't like them, but they are inevitable, unfortunately.

one man's clique is another man's clack

(thankyou, terry pratchett)

 

[UnderYourSpell]

Don't quote me, but parsing, in computer science, is when you process a string of characters (e.g., words) using a set of rules.

An example. Each image file in your computer has a header describing its contents — that is, the format in which the actual data is stored. When you double click an image file in your computer (say, a .bmp image), the image viewer program launches and reads this image's header to know what kind of file it's reading. It discovers that it's reading a .bmp file, and it proceeds to apply the specific rules that allow .bmp files to be read (it would be a different set of rules for a .gif or a .jpg image). Remember, a computer is a machine, it works under the expectation that it's going to find what the file header said was in the file (computers are stupid that way). The process of applying these specific rules to read the file is called parsing.

That's actually why a file can be "corrupted" — the file starts being "parsed" (read by a program, by using specific rules), but at some point the parsing fails because the program finds something different from what it expected, at that point.

To see what I mean, try renaming a .doc file to .bmp — your image viewer will try to open the fake .bmp and fail, informing you there is a problem. Why? Because as it parses the file, expecting to find a .bmp, it finds something else, a .doc.

(To any computer people out there reading this: yes, I know that's not really what happens, but it's close enough to the truth and easier to understand.)

Thank you ....... you're certainly easier to understand than Wikipedia!

 

[Senna Jawa]

Thank you ....... you're certainly easier to understand than Wikipedia!

Actually, do read the Parsing (authored by en.wikipedia) or similar articles. The introductory wikipedia statements provide a clear and TRUE definition.

 

[HarryHill]

one man's clique is another man's clack

(thankyou, terry pratchett)

Damn, you are going to start me reading again, sounds really interesting.

 

[butters]

Damn, you are going to start me reading again, sounds really interesting.

that's not a gripe read everything and ANYTHING by terry pratchett - his creative phase is being eaten away by cruel illness. it's such a sad thing

 

[butters]

ok, my gripe:

if you're going to stir shit and spread muck about for others to step in and track all over the place, don't attempt to sit above it all and keep your own shoes pristine. Yes, Senna, I'm talking to you, here, but this applies to all. Stirring the mud, rattling the hive - well, aeration can be a good thing. But if you're involved, you're involved. Don't play the innocent and roll your eyes at the moon; accept your part in things and what's a little shit on your shoes in the long run?

 

[Magnetron]

One man's clique is another man's clack
One poet chick is another poet quack
Welcome to the Henhouse you lousy grouse

Bagawk

 

[butters]

no.2:

why aren't more of the mods helping Angeline out on here? if things are getting in the way of their modship, maybe time to get people to replace them.

Disclaimer BEFORE someone suggests otherwise: No, i don't want to be mod again. I gave it up because working full-time didn't give me the time i felt i needed to be able to do a good job and i STILL work full time and STILL haven't the time - or the inclination, honestly.

 

[butters]

One man's clique is another man's clack
One poet chick is another poet quack
Welcome to the Henhouse you lousy grouse

Bagawk

quite so, chicken little

 

[Magnetron]

Seriously, this guy (?) Senna Jaba averages about 16 posts a month ( unless my cliquetty claquetty calculator is broken ).

Is there really a reason to give a shit about anything he says?

 

[butters]

Seriously, this guy (?) Senna Jaba averages about 16 posts a month ( unless my cliquetty claquetty calculator is broken ).

Is there really a reason to give a shit about anything he says?

Senna Jawa - a poster of long-standing and a man with a wealth of knowledge who can write decent, even good poetry. Can offer interesting discussions (so long as they revolve - most frequently - about his own writing) and almost never points out the good stuff in the writing of others.

my point here is that yes, sometimes he is worth listening to but his habit of slyly insulting others, manipulating situations and generally failing to accept his part in things is frustrating when others react to his barbs with their own verbal assaults and get the mod treatment for doing so.

 

[Amberchgo]

High heels aren't comfortable.

 

[butters]

*throws peanuts*

 

[Magnetron]

Senna Jawa - a poster of long-standing and a man with a wealth of knowledge who can write decent, even good poetry. Can offer interesting discussions (so long as they revolve - most frequently - about his own writing) and almost never points out the good stuff in the writing of others.

my point here is that yes, sometimes he is worth listening to but his habit of slyly insulting others, manipulating situations and generally failing to accept his part in things is frustrating when others react to his barbs with their own verbal assaults and get the mod treatment for doing so.

Well, if one is consistently an asshat, then one really isn't worth the time no matter how edumacated and skilled at writing he or she is.

 

[butters]

Well, if one is consistently an asshat, then one really isn't worth the time no matter how edumacated and skilled at writing he or she is.

we can all learn from eachother, even from asshats - though asshats don't feel they can learn anything from us.