Can Somebody Help Me Categorize A Thing?

madelinemasoch

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I’ve been working hard on a short story for Lit since the 6th of this month when I got struck with the idea. It was cooking in my subconscious mind for at least a month or two before that. I could feel it constructing itself before a word was ever put down deep within me, but I didn’t really know what it was until that day.

I can’t decide what category it goes in. I haven’t gotten to most of the sexual parts in it yet because there’s a certain blockage to it within me and the ideas are still flowing and formulating themselves. They hide. They’re not fully comfortable yet. Ironically, that’s what the story is for in terms of me as an author writing it in the thick of the process: making me feel comfortable within my own skin to be myself again on a libidinal from-the-inside-out level. I’d forgotten what I like about certain “fetishes” and now I’m slowly coming to and remembering. I’m in an emotional recovery kind of thing. Thank God that’s what the ideas are. Else I would be sad.

Basically, without spoiling it, it’s an all-female cast with one trans woman in terms of characters who actually have names (except for a male dog (not involved in the sex obviously)). There’s BDSM elements I guess but it’s on a deeper level than that. The characters symbolize positive qualities which endows them with power, not to hurt or exploit the main character but to heal her and keep her (and themselves) safe from negativity.

I know it doesn’t go in most Lit categories (definitely not LW, definitely not NC/R, definitely not Incest, definitely not Anal, definitely not Gay Male) but it also doesn’t fit neatly into many of the other possibilities, namely Interracial or Lesbian, because while those elements are there it isn’t a central essence or locus of the thing and it doesn’t serve the general fantasy expressed in those markets well. Like I said there’s a naturally unfolding BDSM dynamic but that isn’t a fetishistic thing in the story. And one of the characters is transgender but that doesn’t really matter to any of them. It’s purely underlying and not in the foreground, at least so far. That aspect isn’t put under a microscope or spoken through a megaphone. It definitely isn’t fetishized.

The whole thing is so feminine and sweet that it doesn’t serve a masculine porn fantasy. I don’t even think it will do very well in terms of ratings and reception for this reason. I don’t mind that. I’m going to get my vision across to someone either way.

For an obvious reason it isn’t a straight romance: while not a harem piece, it doesn’t have a monogamous relationship angle. At the same time, the characters aren’t jealous or rivalrous of each other. All of these choices are made for a reason, to accurately express the ideas for the story.

So the two obvious categories left are either Transgender or BDSM. I’m heavily leaning towards BDSM but I am not entirely sure because it doesn’t serve a fetishistic fantasy ready made in the market. I am not flipping hamburgers (no offense). I realize my new ideas are basically uncategorizable in terms of Lit categories.
 
Stick it where it belongs. If that's BDSM, then put it there. If your story is good enough, readers will appreciate it even if it isn't their usual fare.
 
I can’t decide what category it goes in.
Finish the story, then decide.
Basically, without spoiling it, it’s an all-female cast with one trans woman in terms of characters who actually have names (except for a male dog (not involved in the sex obviously)). There’s BDSM elements I guess but it’s on a deeper level than that. The characters symbolize positive qualities which endows them with power, not to hurt or exploit the main character but to heal her and keep her (and themselves) safe from negativity.
If the BDSM elements are primary, that's your category. If the trans element is the focus, then that's the category.
it isn’t a central essence or locus of the thing and it doesn’t serve the general fantasy expressed in those markets well.
You're answering your own question. It's not another category.
Like I said there’s a naturally unfolding BDSM dynamic but that isn’t a fetishistic thing in the story. And one of the characters is transgender but that doesn’t really matter to any of them. It’s purely underlying and not in the foreground, at least so far. That aspect isn’t put under a microscope or spoken through a megaphone. It definitely isn’t fetishized.
You've answered your own question. If the trans element is irrelevant, but the BDSM elements is unfolding, surely that's your answer?
So the two obvious categories left are either Transgender or BDSM. I’m heavily leaning towards BDSM but I am not entirely sure because it doesn’t serve a fetishistic fantasy ready made in the market.
Just finish the story, then decide! This is not hard :).
 
Will it be long enough to consider N&N? If you don’t feel like BDSM fits well, then that may be an option.
No, it won’t be. I don’t think we need 30k+ words in this story. I can see it topping off at 15k or so, which is technically still a short story.
 
You could perhaps place it in Group Sex. I couldn't tell from your description if it's actually 3+ parties or, say, the main hooking up with the others sequentially. Either way, GS is probably worth considering, and maybe EC if it's never more than pairings or there's no partner sharing aside from the main.
 
You could perhaps place it in Group Sex. I couldn't tell from your description if it's actually 3+ parties or, say, the main hooking up with the others sequentially. Either way, GS is probably worth considering, and maybe EC if it's never more than pairings or there's no partner sharing aside from the main.
It isn't really hooking up. It's closer to multiple dommes on one submissive character. If I had to translate what happens into more pornographic language that's what I'd say. The activities are going to go in sequences but they aren't going to be too formalized. It flows dynamically so far.

For example, we have one scene where one sits on her face and the other touches her cock. I guess that counts as group sex...? But I think the femdom thing is more emphasized. Even when it's more gentle. So I think it should be BDSM...?
 
It isn't really hooking up. It's closer to multiple dommes on one submissive character. If I had to translate what happens into more pornographic language that's what I'd say. The activities are going to go in sequences but they aren't going to be too formalized. It flows dynamically so far.

For example, we have one scene where one sits on her face and the other touches her cock. I guess that counts as group sex...? But I think the femdom thing is more emphasized. Even when it's more gentle. So I think it should be BDSM...?
Well, whatever euphemism you prefer for sexual conjugations; I wasn't using hook-up in a highly technical sense.
It sounds like it could fit reasonably well in GS. There are plenty of such stories with one or more submissives in the group, or with power dynamics being part of the eroticism. Light bondage and the like is not out of place there, and you can often find stuff with mild to moderate 'fetish' elements (clothes, shoes, restraints, etc.), which the author probably considered not at the level that would justify going to the Fetish category.
If you're looking for validation of an instinct to put it in BDSM, all I can say is it doesn't sound like it can't go there. If you believe or intend that the emphasis lies elsewhere than the poly aspects, I can neither confirm nor refute your feelings on the matter. Just trying to say I don't think your choice is only between BDSM and TG.
 
Well, whatever euphemism you prefer for sexual conjugations; I wasn't using hook-up in a highly technical sense.
It sounds like it could fit reasonably well in GS. There are plenty of such stories with one or more submissives in the group, or with power dynamics being part of the eroticism. Light bondage and the like is not out of place there, and you can often find stuff with mild to moderate 'fetish' elements (clothes, shoes, restraints, etc.), which the author probably considered not at the level that would justify going to the Fetish category.
If you're looking for validation of an instinct to put it in BDSM, all I can say is it doesn't sound like it can't go there. If you believe or intend that the emphasis lies elsewhere than the poly aspects, I can neither confirm nor refute your feelings on the matter. Just trying to say I don't think your choice is only between BDSM and TG.
This is the real question I think, whether to put it in GS or BDSM. Rule out the TG category because it’s not really about that…
 
Keep in mind that when you categorize the story, you're assigning a value for your prospective audience.

There’s really good advice here so far, and I would echo the notion to finish the story first. Once you have it through your editing process you can start to think about where it belongs if it’s not obvious.

At that point, my recommendation would be to think about from the stand point of the reader. Where would the reader rationally search to find it? Or where would they be happy to find it?

Also, if it crosses over various categories in such a way where it might be off-putting to a reader, it might be a good idea to include a disclosure at the beginning of the story so the reader knows what they’re getting into before they’re halfway in and thinking WTF? You can kind of cover your bases that way.
 
Everything else aside, what is the one single theme of your story? Let that rule where you put it.
Romance, Erotic Couplings, BDSM, Group... They're all good choices. Once you decide, you can tag the others as necessarily.
 
Everything else aside, what is the one single theme of your story? Let that rule where you put it.
Romance, Erotic Couplings, BDSM, Group... They're all good choices. Once you decide, you can tag the others as necessarily.
Yeah, the central theme isn’t an erotic one. It’s something that precedes and produces the eroticism. The central theme is the contrast between negativity and creativity. The femdommes symbolize the creative/positive/liberatory/passionate connection.
 
Yeah, the central theme isn’t an erotic one. It’s something that precedes and produces the eroticism. The central theme is the contrast between negativity and creativity. The femdommes symbolize the creative/positive/liberatory/passionate connection.
If it's empowering, make all the characters trans and put it in T/CD. We need all the positivity we can get these days. (and some of us like a good spanking now and then):)
 
If it's empowering, make all the characters trans and put it in T/CD. We need all the positivity we can get these days. (and some of us like a good spanking now and then):)
Oh, you can handle that story. That wouldn't make sense for us.
 
If it's all women, doing stuff together, go for Lesbian Sex. May get more readers than in BDSM.

Though when I last did a story with a bunch of women and one guy staying quiet hoping they'd all forget he was there, Laurel stuck it in EC, which was a bit odd, but there wasn't any point in asking it to be moved by the time I noticed.
 
If it's all women, doing stuff together, go for Lesbian Sex. May get more readers than in BDSM.

Though when I last did a story with a bunch of women and one guy staying quiet hoping they'd all forget he was there, Laurel stuck it in EC, which was a bit odd, but there wasn't any point in asking it to be moved by the time I noticed.
That is a bit odd.

The women don’t do much together. They do things to the transgender main character and then some of them have sex with unnamed men towards the end.
 
That is a bit odd.
Not really. Laurel will occasionally change category to where she thinks a story will run best. She's got a much better idea than most of us.
The women don’t do much together. They do things to the transgender main character and then some of them have sex with unnamed men towards the end.
Based on this, maybe Group is the go. But seriously, finish the story first, then decide. What you're doing here is either procrastination or trying to convince yourself of something.
 
The women don’t do much together. They do things to the transgender main character and then some of them have sex with unnamed men towards the end.
At the end of the day this is a porn site, so the primary way to categorize stuff is by the kind of sex involved. By this metric, this is either of TG&CG or GS.

In general, though, I do agree with @ElectricBlue. The category is either completely obvious from the beginning, because a central theme makes the entire story before you even start writing; or it's just a box you have to check at the very end, based on what you've actually written.

Worrying about categorization mid-way through the process is just a distraction.
 
At the end of the day this is a porn site, so the primary way to categorize stuff is by the kind of sex involved. By this metric, this is either of TG&CG or GS.

In general, though, I do agree with @ElectricBlue. The category is either completely obvious from the beginning, because a central theme makes the entire story before you even start writing; or it's just a box you have to check at the very end, based on what you've actually written.

Worrying about categorization mid-way through the process is just a distraction.
I agree it’s a distraction. It just occurred to me. Way easier to take care of than finishing the rest of the story.
 
Back in the olden days, there used to be a well-understood hierarchy of the categories i.e., "if it features ***, it has to go in the *** category even if it has elements of %%% or $$$." Is it still that way? I dunno. Maybe it was just one of many AH conspiracy theories.
 
Back in the olden days, there used to be a well-understood hierarchy of the categories i.e., "if it features ***, it has to go in the *** category even if it has elements of %%% or $$$." Is it still that way? I dunno. Maybe it was just one of many AH conspiracy theories.
That wasn’t back in the old days, at all. I’m pretty sure that’s still around.
 
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