Democratic Primary Fucktussle!

[Dumpington]

JackLuis writes: "New poll shows Bernie Sanders with more than double the support of Joe Biden in New Hampshire"

Joe Biden is a HORRIBLE candidate, Jack, and I think he'll lose to Bernie in both Iowa AND New Hampshire!

But the Democratic Party establishment does NOT want Bernie at the top of the ticket, and former President Barack Obama himself will step in and intervene if it ever begins to look like socialist Senator Sanders will be that party's candidate! Joe Biden, like Hillary Clinton in 2016, controls the behind-the-scenes "levers of power," and the party will see to it that "Gropin' Joe" wins a majority of the delegates before the national convention.

And no, Bernie's NOT going to like that one bit. He very reluctantly backed Hillary in 2016 after they stole the nomination from him - but I DON'T believe that he'll be so quick to do so this time around! The Democratic Party is going to fracture this summer & fall, only making it all the easier for Trump to win a landslide victory!

 

[colddiesel]

Most of the Progressives and all of the Deplorables on this Board are for a Sanders candidacy.

Now progressives: sit down quietly and ask yourselves, "Why do Trump's supporters want Sanders to be the D candidate?"

 

[YDB95]

Most of the Progressives and all of the Deplorables on this Board are for a Sanders candidacy.

Now progressives: sit down quietly and ask yourselves, "Why do Trump's supporters want Sanders to be the D candidate?"

For the most part, they don't. They want Biden in my experience.

Of course, I also remember when the Republicans couldn't wait to run against Bill Clinton.

 

[KeithD]

Of course, I also remember when the Republicans couldn't wait to run against Bill Clinton.

Aren't they (and the board Trumpettes) STILL running against Bill Clinton (and Hillary and Obama)?

I do believe that the Republicans have a wealth of negative ads (started in 2016 and added to) all revved up and ready to go (with red frames around them and slathered with age, religious, and job performance spangles) to unleash on Bernie Sanders if he gets the Democratic nomination.

To be sure the Republicans are prepared to do hatchet jobs on anyone running for the Democrats, but I'm quite sure they have an overabundance of material--saved and nurtured for years--to scare middle America shitless with what they'd put into an anti-Sanders campaign.

His supporters like to say he could have done so much better that Hillary against Trump. But that's only because he wasn't the nominee. He didn't have to face a campaign by the experienced Republican swiftboaters and the Russians.

 

[JackLuis]

Aren't they (and the board Trumpettes) STILL running against Bill Clinton (and Hillary and Obama)?

I do believe that the Republicans have a wealth of negative ads (started in 2016 and added to) all revved up and ready to go (with red frames around them and slathered with age, religious, and job performance spangles) to unleash on Bernie Sanders if he gets the Democratic nomination.

Maybe? But the fact that the Trumpian resume is festooned with the examples of his perfidy. His own words .... I can’t even any more!

Exposing his obvious faults, he is not the enemy that Moscow Mitch and the Real Riech Wing capitalists who are raping the country. Using the Cross and Old Glory to sell this shit to the rubes!

Meanwhile the Russian Mob is playing these traitors like a Stradivarius! (sardonic headshaking)

And then you have shit heads like Cippiloni and the Weasel who never talk about exoneration only technicalities that "Only They See".

There has to be in the Resistance a Department of Bullshit Resistance and the cartoonists and writers and law geeks can run an open sourced collaboration to End The Orange Menace (ETOM!)!

 

[KeithD]

Bullshit. You haven't heard what the Republicans would slather Sanders with in a presidential campaign simply because they haven't had to.

 

[JackLuis]

Bullshit. You haven't heard what the Republicans would slather Sanders with in a presidential campaign simply because they haven't had to.

Okay, so Liz or Amy or OHJ! Who cares. The issue is how much negative press The Trumpster gets slapped with in the election. Care to select your ammunition?

Just get the Press to run his greatest hits and explain why he was doing shit. Where is the Left Wing Media when you need them?

This election will be dirty and divisive unless the Senate gets serious about their oaths of office and dumps Trump on the tender mercy of SDNY's lap.

 

[Dumpington]

colddiesel asks: "Why do Trump's supporters want Sanders to be the D candidate?"

YDB95 responds: "For the most part, they don't. They want Biden in my experience."

Joe Biden & Bernie Sanders respresent two entirely different election outcomes, of which BOTH are favorable to President Trump!

With Senator Sanders, you've got a Democratic Party moving SHARPLY to the far left, which is one of the reasons why former President Obama and the rest of the establishment Democrats oppose him! They see Bernie as a repeat of George McGovern challenging President Nixon's re-election in 1972. Nixon CLOBBERED McGovern, winning 60.67% of the popular vote to the Democrat candidate's 37.52%. Nixon ALSO carried 49 of the fifty-states, destroying McGovern in the electoral college, 520-to-17!

With Joe Biden, you've got the Democratic Party nominating a former vice president, exactly as happened back in 1984, when the Dems went with former Vice President Walter Mondale to challenge incumbent President Ronald Reagan! Reagan would end up CLOBBERING Mondale, winning a lopsided 58.77% of the popular vote to the Democratic Party candidate's 40.56%. Reagan ALSO carried 49 of the fifty-states, destroying Mondale in the electoral college by an all-time record 525-to-13!

KeithD writes: " To be sure the Republicans are prepared to do hatchet jobs on anyone running for the Democrats..."

I'm sure you're right about that, Keith - and the House Democrats have given the Trump campaign a LOT of ammunition, and they've certainly fired-up his base! No matter WHO wins the Democrat nomination, Trump will very likely destroy them at the polls!

 

[KeithD]

Okay, so Liz or Amy or OHJ! Who cares. The issue is how much negative press The Trumpster gets slapped with in the election. Care to select your ammunition?

Just get the Press to run his greatest hits and explain why he was doing shit. Where is the Left Wing Media when you need them?

This election will be dirty and divisive unless the Senate gets serious about their oaths of office and dumps Trump on the tender mercy of SDNY's lap.

I'm not sure what you're asking for. This election will be dirty and divisive no matter what. Why should it be different from any other election?

 

[moonflasher]

Looks like things once again will go in Trumps favor …..Where is all that evidence Schiff has always claimed to have against Trump ? He's had 3 years to show it and for whatever reason has chosen not to hand it over.

Once again the Democrats have done a poor job proving guilt. What will be the next scam they come up with to try and remove Trump from a 2020 run ? They all know Trump will win reelection while the Republicans take both the house and senate. Americans are sick of all the witch hunts and know the only way to end them is to vote out Democrats.

 

[Dumpington]

moonflasher writes: "Looks like things once again will go in Trumps favor... where is all that evidence Schiff has always claimed to have against Trump? He's had 3 years to show it and for whatever reason has chosen not to hand it over."

Adam Schiff would make a heck of a good used car salesman - he can lie with the best of 'em! Sadly, he's greatly embarrassed his own Democratic Party this time around, and his expensive, time-consuming clown-show coup-attempt might very well end up costing Nancy Pelosi her House speakership in November!

"Once again the Democrats have done a poor job proving guilt. What will be the next scam they come up with to try and remove Trump from a 2020 run?"

I'm guessing that the House Democrats will now try and impeach from office ALL of those U.S. Senate Republicans who didn't support their clown-show! They will accuse them all of "obstructing congress!"

"They all know Trump will win reelection while the Republicans take both the house and senate. Americans are sick of all the witch hunts and know the only way to end them is to vote out Democrats."

Impeachment, like the two-&-a-half-year long Mueller investigation, was an expensive fiasco! The voter backlash against the Democratic Party will be brutal!

 

[JackLuis]

‘Definition of a rigged system:’ Sanders campaign rips DNC changing debate rules for Mike Bloomberg

After debate rules were changed in favor of allowing billionaire Mike Bloomberg to join the candidates onstage vying for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination on Friday, Sen. Bernie Sanders’ campaign hit back, calling the decision emblematic of the corrupt political system the Vermont senator has centered his run for the White House on defeating.

“To now change the rules in the middle of the game to accommodate Mike Bloomberg, who is trying to buy his way into the Democratic nomination, is wrong,” Sanders senior adviser Jeff Weaver told Politico. “That’s the definition of a rigged system.”

The DNC is soooo fair to all billionaires!

 

[YDB95]

Once again the Democrats have done a poor job proving guilt. What will be the next scam they come up with to try and remove Trump from a 2020 run ? They all know Trump will win reelection while the Republicans take both the house and senate. Americans are sick of all the witch hunts and know the only way to end them is to vote out Democrats.

If you really believe that, then surely you agree they should have been able to call witnesses? After all, if Trump is innocent, witnesses would prove as much, right?

 

[Dumpington]

YDB95 writes: "If you really believe that, then surely you agree they should have been able to call witnesses?"

How STUPID are the House Democrats to cast a purely partisan vote on TWO articles of impeachment without FIRST gathering the necessary evidence and/or witnesses? They fully DESERVE this humiliation that they're currently suffering!

And yes, when Nancy Pelosi loses the House Speakership this November, THIS is why! You don't trust something this important with a clown like Adam Schiff!

Meanwhile, President Trump turned his back on the trial in the U.S. Senate to travel to Iowa, where he packed the Knapp Center arena on the campus of Drake University, filling ALL 7,152 seats in the stands, with more on the floor. Meanwhile, another 1,000 people or so, kept out by the fire marshal, hung around in sub-freezing temperatures outside to watch the president's speech on a big screen. This one Trump event dwarfed ALL of those by his Democratic rivals only days before the Iowa caucuses.

Trump's appearance served one major purpose: To mess with the Democrats. He zooms in on Air Force One, stages a far bigger rally than anything they could muster in their wildest dream and then zoom back to Washington, having shown once again that he is BIG and they are SMALL. Trump is pushing one big point, and that is: My presidency is making your lives better, and you would be crazy to vote for anybody else in November.

Trump's take on impeachment fits this same narrative: "While we're proudly creating jobs and killing terrorists, congressional Democrats are consumed with partisan rage and obsessed with a deranged witch hunt hoax," he told the crowd, to boos and hisses. "We're having probably the best years that we've ever had in the history of our country — and I just got impeached!"

 

[KeithD]

‘Definition of a rigged system:’ Sanders campaign rips DNC changing debate rules for Mike Bloomberg



The DNC is soooo fair to all billionaires!

If Bernie thinks the DNC is so bad, he should just leave it . . . no, wait, he's never joined it. It's easy for him to piss in the tent. It's not his tent.

 

[KeithD]

If you really believe that, then surely you agree they should have been able to call witnesses? After all, if Trump is innocent, witnesses would prove as much, right?

There are even Republican senators who are saying the House Democrats proved their case. The Republicans have just chosen to be corrupt.

 

[YDB95]

There are even Republican senators who are saying the House Democrats proved their case. The Republicans have just chosen to be corrupt.

They've seen what happens to Republicans who don't kowtow to Trump. It's a choice between standing up to him and probably losing the GOP primary in their next election, or kissing up to him and facing energised opposition from all voters to the left of John McCain or so in the general election. From a selfish, game-theory point of view, I guess if I were in their shoes I'd do the same. No use in worrying about your chances in November if you don't even get that far.

 

[KeithD]

They've seen what happens to Republicans who don't kowtow to Trump. It's a choice between standing up to him and probably losing the GOP primary in their next election, or kissing up to him and facing energised opposition from all voters to the left of John McCain or so in the general election. From a selfish, game-theory point of view, I guess if I were in their shoes I'd do the same. No use in worrying about your chances in November if you don't even get that far.

They give their power to Trump out of stupidity. If the gutless wonders would stand up to him in bunches, he'd crumble. Even those working directly for him just don't do half of what he tells them to do.

 

[phrodeau]

They give their power to Trump out of stupidity. If the gutless wonders would stand up to him in bunches, he'd crumble. Even those working directly for him just don't do half of what he tells them to do.

Hell, Melania doesn’t even do what Donald wants her to do.

 

[Dumpington]

YDB95 writes: "It's a choice between standing up to him and probably losing the GOP primary in their next election, or kissing up to him and facing energised opposition from all voters to the left of John McCain or so in the general election."

The Republican Party is united solidly behind President Trump.

The Democratic Party is... well, they're certainly not united! They were certainly united in their failed attempt to impeach President Trump, but that proved to be yet another WIN for this president, and will almost certainly galvanize his base this November, resulting in a possibly very lop-sided re-election victory!

Joe Biden remains the most likely Democrat candidate, warts & all. Trump's impeachment trial shined a light on Biden family corruption in the Ukraine, something that Trump campaign ads will almost certainly pounce upon! And then there's "Gropin' Joe's" putting his hands on women, and doing creepy things like sniffing their hair!

The obvious alternative to Creepy-Sleepy Joe is the OTHER old white male: Vermont's self-described socialist Bernie Sanders - Bernie, of course, was robbed of the 2016 nomination, but he dutifully endorsed Hillary Clinton after considering his options. If the Democratic establishment does that to him again this year, he might not be so willing to play along after the convention - in fact, he may even run as an independent!

None of the other candidates has a serious shot at the nomination, and they'll begin dropping out immediately after the Iowa caucuses, possibly making it as far as the New Hampshire primary. Billionaires Bloomberg & Steyer may go a little further still, despite performing poorly at the polls. There's already a lot of bad blood between Bernie & Liz! Their's is a badly fractured party right now!

 

[JackLuis]

John Kerry overheard talking about entering the 2020 presidential race

After Michael Bloomberg’s late entrance into the 2020 presidential campaign, now former Secretary of State John Kerry is pondering another go.

According to NBC News, Kerry was overheard by a reporter in the lobby restaurant of the Renaissance Savery hotel, saying “maybe I’m f*cking deluding myself here” then explaining why he should run.

“Kerry said donors like venture capitalist Doug Hickey would have to ‘raise a couple of million,’ adding that such donors ‘now have the reality of Bernie,'” NBC reported.

The Capitalists are running a smoke signal to the DNC!

 

[Dumpington]

Let's face it - most Democrats DON'T seriously want Creepy-Sleepy Joe Biden to be their party's 2020 presidential candidate - partly because he's got a long history of being an overall TERRIBLE gaffe-prone candidate (dropping-out of the races in 1988 & 2008), but also because of his embarrassing record of improper public-behavior towards women (e.g. the hair-sniffing & the groping!)

Right now, the ONLY Democratic Party candidate giving "Gropin' Joe" a serious challenge is the openly SOCIALIST Bernie Sanders - and the establishment running that party HATES the very thought of Bernie becoming their standard-bearer! The Clintons & the Obamas BOTH despise Bernie as a sure-fire-loser who will lead their party to destruction and guarantee a Trump landslide in 2020! But what are they going to do? CHEAT, like they did in 2016?

Currently, there's talk of Hillary once again entering the race - and, if not Mrs. Clinton, then what about John Kerry? You KNOW your party's in bad shape when you're considering bringing back the losers from 2004 and/or 2016 to prevent a weird old socialist from destroying your party from within!

 

[JackLuis]

Pete Buttigieg leads in the Iowa Caucuses after results were finally released

Former South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg has a lead in the Iowa Caucus after the state party finally released partial results on Tuesday.

According to numbers released by the Iowa Democratic Party, Buttigieg received 27% of the delegate percentage, with 62% of precincts tallied.

IOWA STATE DELEGATES (62% of caucus results):

Buttigieg 26.9%
Sanders 25.1%
Warren 18.3%
Biden 15.6%
Klobuchar 12.6%
Yang 1.1%

"Democrats in Disarray," trends as Iowa can't caucus good.

 

[YDB95]

"Democrats in Disarray," trends as Iowa can't caucus good.

The whole thing could have come off perfectly and the SCLM would still run with "Democrats in Disarray". It's what they do, period.

 

[JackLuis]

Pete Buttigieg lead over Bernie Sanders narrows as more Iowa Caucus results are released

For the second night in a row, Americans will go to bed without knowing who won the Iowa Caucuses.

The Iowa Democratic Party did not release any results on the night of the caucuses, and released partial results from 62% of the precincts late Tuesday afternoon.

Late in the evening, more numbers were released, with 71% of the precincts reporting.

Iowa results with 71% of precincts reporting. Buttigieg down .1 percentage points from earlier and Sanders up .1 percentage points:
Buttigieg 26.8%
Sanders 25.2%
Warren 18.4%
Biden 15.5%
Klobuchar 12.6%
Yang 1.1%
Steyer .3%
Uncommitted .2%

OHJ in fourth position?