Democrats: Where are the Big Ideas?

[Saint_Ann]

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I wonder what it's like going thru life expecting the worst in every situation. Welcome to the new democratic party.

 

[Politruk]

Social liberalism is a lie, it's just socialism until the civil rights become inconvenient.

It's just socialism with SOME basic human rights, there is nothing liberal about it.

All lies.

 

[UltraChad]

All lies.

Not at all.

That's why "social" liberals hate individual liberty so very fuckin' deeply.....just like their Marxist and Nazi comrades.

 

[YDB95]

Not at all.

That's why "social" liberals hate individual liberty so very fuckin' deeply.....just like their Marxist and Nazi comrades.

And yet for all the literally hundreds of times you've said things like that, you can never point to a single example of as much...

 

[UltraChad]

And yet for all the literally hundreds of times you've said things like that, you can never point to a single example of as much...

I've pointed to it repeatedly.

You're anti-free speech, freedom of association and freedom of religion.

You're anti-armament and self defense rights.

You're anti-private property and super anti-labor rights.

You just want to vote yourselves power to take others peoples shit and force them to work for you instead of themselves like every basic socialist ever.

You just call yourselves "liberal" to deflect from the fact that you're anything but.

 

[Politruk]

super anti-labor rights.

No, that's the GOP.

N.B.: This is not labor rights.

 

[Politruk]

You just call yourselves "liberal" to deflect from the fact that you're anything but.

Liberal is this, not this.

 

[UltraChad]

Liberal is this, not this.

No that's socialism, libertarians are a kind of liberal.

 

[Politruk]

No that's socialism, libertarians are a kind of liberal.

Social liberalism is not socialism, and libertarians are not a kind of liberal.

 

[UltraChad]

Social liberalism is not socialism,

Yea it is.....same ideology, same mentality, same end goals, same end results.

And the total DISTAIN for liberty disqualifies them from being liberal.

and libertarians are not a kind of liberal.

Yes they are. They are the ideological decedents of classical English liberals who defined liberalism especially American liberalism.

 

[Politruk]

Yes they are. They are the ideological decedents of classical English liberals who defined liberalism especially American liberalism.

American liberalism is social liberalism -- has been for a hundred years.

 

[UltraChad]

American liberalism is social liberalism -- has been for a hundred years.

No it's not......American liberalism is Classical English Liberalism, has been since 1776.

Socialist lies and bullshit about "social liberalism" will never change that.

 

[Politruk]

No it's not......American liberalism is Classical English Liberalism, has been since 1776.

Socialist lies and bullshit about "social liberalism" will never change that.

Lies.

Bear in mind -- bear always in mind -- that you have never, ever contradicted me and been right. Not once.

 

[UltraChad]

Lies.

Not lies....historical fact.

 

[Politruk]

Not lies....historical fact.

Bear in mind -- bear always in mind -- that you have never, ever contradicted me and been right. Not once.

 

[YDB95]

I've pointed to it repeatedly.

No you haven't. What you have done is say things like the following without providing any evidence whatsoever:

You're anti-free speech, freedom of association and freedom of religion.

You're anti-armament and self defense rights.

You're anti-private property and super anti-labor rights.

You just want to vote yourselves power to take others peoples shit and force them to work for you instead of themselves like every basic socialist ever.

 

[UltraChad]

No you haven't. What you have done is say things like the following without providing any evidence whatsoever:

Democrats active platforms and openly calls for all those things isn't evidence??

Ok. LOL....Democrats aren't pro-DEI??? or anti 2A??? no democrats are upset they can't censor the right wing anymore.....they never said "Hate speech isn't free speech!!" ??? LOL

You just want to deny all the horribly anti-American things the Democrats do so you don't have to feel guilty about being such an anti-American piece of shit.

 

[YDB95]

Democrats active platforms and openly calls for all those things isn't evidence??

It would be if that really were what they were doing, sure.

Ok. LOL....Democrats aren't pro-DEI???

Yes, we are pro-civil rights. Thanks for asking.

or anti 2A???

Supporting sensible gun control is not "anti 2A".

 

[Fuzzy1975]

It would be if that really were what they were doing, sure.


Yes, we are pro-civil rights. Thanks for asking.

Supporting sensible gun control is not "anti 2A".

Go easy on bobo, I kind of broke his brain this am....

https://forum.literotica.com/threads/long-live-king-trump-seriously.1628540/page-4

 

[UltraChad]

It would be if that really were what they were doing, sure.

It is.

Yes, we are pro-civil rights. Thanks for asking.

Abortion a non-civil rights is literally the only one you guys support.

Supporting sensible gun control is not "anti 2A".

Yes, gun control is anti-2A. Just like censoring "hate speech" is anti free speech.

 

[YDB95]

It is.

And yet you can never, ever show us an example of as much. That's why you keep making stuff up like you've done here.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Just like censoring "hate speech" is anti free speech.

oh yah, you'd like that to be overturned......*chuckles* how many banhammers fell on you over this....?

 

[Politruk]

Not at all.

That's why "social" liberals hate individual liberty so very fuckin' deeply.....just like their Marxist and Nazi comrades.

All lies.