Disney Checkmates DeSantis

[RobDownSouth]

Apparently teaching our children to accept gay people etc is problematic for their age. Instead they should be taught triage skills in case of a mass shooter.

Priorities.

"Acceptance" is anathema to Republican core values.

 

[akatrex]

"Acceptance" is anathema to Republican core values.

Available at Disney Land and Disney Store near YOU!

 

[Sean Renaud]

Apparently teaching our children to accept gay people etc is problematic for their age. Instead they should be taught triage skills in case of a mass shooter.

Priorities.

Its so much worse than that however. We can look state by state or country by country if you prefer since much like gun laws sex ed can be charted. Teaching kids about sex in many ways early on is important. Unfortunately we are largely, at least culturally, descended from people who had a forest of up their ass. I mean the fucking Brits perscuted them for having a stick in their ass. THE BRITS!!!!!!

This has lead to a world where a child asks "What's a rim job" and the answer is "Ask your mother" or "I'll tell you when you're older." I'm not a parent but newsflash parents, if your kid is asking about rimjobs maybe you need to have a very important talk with them. But since you've proven over and over again to be inadequate the government absolutely MUST step in. Showing kids how to put a condom on using a banana isn't going to hurt anything. And lets be honest right now. Condoms are counterintuitive. Like while I obviously know now (but I'm in my 40s) 16 year old me thought you put a condom all the way on. Its basically a rubber "sock" right? Wrong. How many unwanted/teen (I couple them because you might be in your twenties or thirties and not want a kid but you don't know any better because of lack of education) pregnancies are there that at least could have been prevented by knowing you need to give a condom a little room? Driving down abortions starts with teaching your boys and girls how to prevent pregnancy.

Maybe there are worse things in this world than girls (again loose term for any post pubescent female) on the pill. I keep repeating this point since it needs repeating I forget what year it was, it feels like yesterday but I'm finding as I enter the 40s that "a few years back" basically means any year after 2005 when I exited the military. They found a vaccine for certain kinds of HPV. Conservatives were more concerned that their daughters would become sluts if sex was slightly safer than they were about their daughters (already sluts by the very loose standard being used here) were at a lighter risk to cervical cancer. I mean the fight should have been that boys should get the vax too since if they can't carry they can't transmit.

So this goes much deeper than drag queens reading books.

Seriously we need to stop pretending the Republicans aren't a white male supremacist group. If you're a woman any to be in the kitchen, power too you. But at least admit that's what you're on about.

 

[Misshotndeep]

 

[butters]

disney top bods spelling it out for the stupid.. there are options

Disney Parks Chairman Josh D’Amaro said that he is hopeful that Disney will be able to continue to invest in Walt Disney World after the company canceled the HQ project.

"I remain optimistic about the direction of our Walt Disney World business. We have plans to invest $17 billion and create 13,000 jobs over the next ten years. I hope we’re able to do so...," he said

Walt Disney World President Jeff Vahle:

Regarding our world-class destination, our desire is to continue investing in our core business in an effort to attract and welcome millions of visitors to Walt Disney World and Central Florida each year so they can enjoy the kind of hospitality our region is known for around the world. Our plans currently call for us to invest $17 billion in Walt Disney World over the next 10 years and create 13,000 new jobs to continue doing our part as a leading employer in the hospitality and themed entertainment industry. We hope those plans will become a future reality.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/com...p&cvid=a01e03d563724f9c9982a67bb8eb2a1c&ei=31

 

[butters]

Central Florida Attorney Michael Sasso has resigned from the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District Board Of Supervisors, which DeSantis appointed following his dispute with Disney, Orlando Sentinel reported. He was appointed to the board in late February.

The attorney hasn't given a reason for his resignation. DeSantis, however, elevated Sasso's wife to the Florida Supreme Court last week, the report said. She earlier served as the chief judge of the Sixth District Circuit Court of Appeal, it added.

i would hope the guy quit rather than have his wife being put in the awkward position of being accused of all kinds of bias in upcoming legal battles and needing to recuse—or refuse to recuse—herself

then again, maybe they played desantis a little, him agreeing to sit on desantis' appointed board if his wife was a shoe-in for the S.C position.

then again, maybe the wife told her husband 'there's no way this will end well for desantis, get out now while you still have credibility as an attorney'

 

[HisArpy]

i would hope the guy quit rather than have his wife being put in the awkward position of being accused of all kinds of bias in upcoming legal battles and needing to recuse—or refuse to recuse—herself

then again, maybe they played desantis a little, him agreeing to sit on desantis' appointed board if his wife was a shoe-in for the S.C position.

then again, maybe the wife told her husband 'there's no way this will end well for desantis, get out now while you still have credibility as an attorney'

I would choose to believe that he did the right thing and resigned rather than continue with his board position in would be an obvious conflict of interest.

Which would be what an ethical attorney would do.

How you managed to spin this into some slight against him, his wife, DeSantis, and the State of Florida is baffling but I'm betting you managed it by skipping all the facts and going straight to your progressive bias and hate mongering beliefs.

 

[Lazaran]

i would hope the guy quit rather than have his wife being put in the awkward position of being accused of all kinds of bias in upcoming legal battles and needing to recuse—or refuse to recuse—herself

then again, maybe they played desantis a little, him agreeing to sit on desantis' appointed board if his wife was a shoe-in for the S.C position.

then again, maybe the wife told her husband 'there's no way this will end well for desantis, get out now while you still have credibility as an attorney'

Cabal’s gonna cabal.

I have little doubt that there were a few “conversations” about potential conflicts of interest and optics.

America hasn’t QUITE gotten to the point where cabals can cabal out in the open with impunity…

<checks notes on Clarence and Ginni Thomas and the rapey corrupt orange traitor’s J6 insurrection>

NM

SAD!!!

 

[RobDownSouth]

I would choose to believe that he did the right thing and resigned rather than continue with his board position in would be an obvious conflict of interest.

Which would be what an ethical attorney would do.

How you managed to spin this into some slight against him, his wife, DeSantis, and the State of Florida is baffling but I'm betting you managed it by skipping all the facts and going straight to your progressive bias and hate mongering beliefs.

Sasso accepted the position initially while his wife was on the 6th District Court of Appeals, which would hear Reedy Creek / Tourism Oversite Board lawsuits. No mention then about conflict of interest.

Side note: Mr. Sassos was on the legal committee to recommend judges for the 6th District Court of Appeals to the Meatball. No mention if he recused himself from nominating his spouse back then.

 

[menapis]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1663381709667303425

 

[Rightguide]

And teh Constitution is superior to any State law.

"Perfectly Legal"? Teh United States Constitution sez differently!
No. Law. Can. Affect. Existing. Contracts.

Sound the words out. Ask for help if needed.



You must've still been in rehab the day your unaccredited law school discussed teh Contracts Clause.

"He tries sooooo hard!"

Final Score: Downsouth 1, Purported Attorney 0

To put a finer point on it, it's referred to in law as the Obligation of Contract Clause and it was derived from the Northwest Ordinance. The clause does prevent states from repudiating their obligations under contract, but it is weakened by the principle of sovereign immunity and the police powers of the state. In most cases, it preserves the obligation under contract but does not preclude the state from remedies otherwise available. Since Ogden v Saunders the Obligation of Contract Clause is more of an observer and less than a player in issues of prospective state economic regulation.

Now we should ask if Joe Biden has the right to repudiate contracts entered into by students in need of education loans?

 

[rainsol]

I still can't fathom how that KKK prick got elected governor in the first place. If there was ever a case to investigate "Massive Voter Fraud" I would think the Florida governor's election would be a good place to start.

How Adolf Biden get elected , doofus? De Santis has more on the ball than Biden while he sleeping that Biden has wide awake. In the 24 months of Biden the federal govmint has grown by 40 percent. Guess whose paying it for it, not big business Hollywood or silicon valley.

 

[PaxNurgle]

How did Biden get elected?

Simple. He was running against Donald Trump.

Had he ran against, say, pretty much any Republican candidate since 1964, Biden likely would have lost. And yeah, probably the majority of the people who voted for him do not exactly have a glowing opinion of him- only that they would cringe and vote for him again if it came down to Biden vs. either of the two Republican front runners. Which says as much about DeSantis and Trump as it does Biden's glaring mediocrity.

 

[JohnnySavage]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1663381709667303425

Maybe he's Scottish?

 

[JohnnySavage]

Or an Arab?

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

WSJ, 5/30/23

“Since the New Deal, it’s been very difficult to win a Contract Clause claim,” said University of Florida law professor Michael Allan Wolf, a specialist in land-use planning and property law. The Supreme Court itself hasn’t struck down a state law under the Contract Clause since 1978.

“Disney also claims the state violated its constitutional rights by failing to compensate Disney for its loss of property rights. It is a particularly messy area of constitutional law; unless a plaintiff can show a severe destruction of property value, such claims generally fail.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ron-desantis-disney-are-headed-into-untested-legal-waters-39b5369d

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1663941866159472641

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1663941866159472641

One party has the power to tax, regulate, enforce the law, seize property through eminent domain, grant special privileges and take away special privileges across the State of Florida. The other has a mouse trademark and billions of dollars worth of property and fixed assets under the government of Florida.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

One party has the power to tax, regulate, enforce the law, seize property through eminent domain, grant special privileges and take away special privileges across the State of Florida. The other has a mouse trademark and billions of dollars worth of property and fixed assets under the government of Florida.

One entity has been around to see at least four generations of human beings enable its enterprise and the other is currently overextending his ambitions from a 2019 gubernatorial win.

the former has made many missteps that it has weathered and come back from because it is not run by a braintrust of stupid people while the latter is about to make a leap (first in a series of even harder leaps) that will one-shot him if he doesn't clear the gap to land safely.

who's your money on?

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

One entity has been around to see at least four generations of human beings enable its enterprise and the other is currently overextending his ambitions from a 2019 gubernatorial win.

the former has made many missteps that it has weathered and come back from because it is not run by a braintrust of stupid people while the latter is about to make a leap (first in a series of even harder leaps) that will one-shot him if he doesn't clear the gap to land safely.

who's your money on?

My money is on the one with the powers cited in post #444. The one that recently replaced Disney’s special district board members. And if you think longevity is a factor (it’s not), I’ll remind you that the state of Florida has been around a bit longer the Disney.

 

[Comshaw]

One party has the power to tax, regulate, enforce the law, seize property through eminent domain, grant special privileges and take away special privileges across the State of Florida. The other has a mouse trademark and billions of dollars worth of property and fixed assets under the government of Florida.

You are correct that the first party has all those powers, BUT they are not unlimited. Even they MUST go by existing law, both state and federal. And while they do have the authority to change laws for their state they DO NOT have the right or the legal authority to do so retroactively. No matter the power of the state of Florida, Disney has the economic and monetary weight to take them on in court. De Santis and the state of Florida will lose in court. Hell even a law ignorant yahoo like me can see what is being attempted: the violation of Disney's 1st. Amendment rights. And even the most conservative of courts will come down on the side of free speech.

All that said, I really don't understand why De Santis and the Florida legislature started this whole thing, other than a pinched ego on DeSantis' part. The tired old spiel of "it's all about Reedy Creek district and how Disney is being treated special" doesn't fly. There are literally dozens of special districts in Florida. All of them, approved by the state legislature. If Disney is such a burr because they were given that status, then is the governor and legislature going to take over all the other special districts? If not why not? And why now? If that was the reason and such an irritant to De Santis, why didn't he do it right after he was elected? Why wait until just after Disney voiced an opinion on a subject and that opinion was in opposition to what De Santis and Florida was doing? Yeah, if it looks like dog shit and smells like dog shit it is probably is dog shit.

Additionally, by sabotaging Disney's business, the governor and the legislature are shooting the state in the foot by reducing tourism, reducing the taxes that will be collected to name two.

Disney does have billions of dollars of fixed assets in Florida. Do you really think they are going to roll over and let anyone destroy what they built? Built I might add with the full approval and participation of the state. and now a wannabe dicktater (not a misspelling btw) wants to build his reputation, showing how much of an asshole he can be by stomping on THE best revenue generators in his state? Anyone, let me repeat that ANYONE that supports such dumb ass actions is in the minus when it comes to grey matter.

Comshaw

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

You are correct that the first party has all those powers, BUT they are not unlimited. Even they MUST go by existing law, both state and federal. And while they do have the authority to change laws for their state they DO NOT have the right or the legal authority to do so retroactively. No matter the power of the state of Florida, Disney has the economic and monetary weight to take them on in court. De Santis and the state of Florida will lose in court. Hell even a law ignorant yahoo like me can see what is being attempted: the violation of Disney's 1st. Amendment rights. And even the most conservative of courts will come down on the side of free speech.

All that said, I really don't understand why De Santis and the Florida legislature started this whole thing, other than a pinched ego on DeSantis' part. The tired old spiel of "it's all about Reedy Creek district and how Disney is being treated special" doesn't fly. There are literally dozens of special districts in Florida. All of them, approved by the state legislature. If Disney is such a burr because they were given that status, then is the governor and legislature going to take over all the other special districts? If not why not? And why now? If that was the reason and such an irritant to De Santis, why didn't he do it right after he was elected? Why wait until just after Disney voiced an opinion on a subject and that opinion was in opposition to what De Santis and Florida was doing? Yeah, if it looks like dog shit and smells like dog shit it is probably is dog shit.

Additionally, by sabotaging Disney's business, the governor and the legislature are shooting the state in the foot by reducing tourism, reducing the taxes that will be collected to name two.

Disney does have billions of dollars of fixed assets in Florida. Do you really think they are going to roll over and let anyone destroy what they built? Built I might add with the full approval and participation of the state. and now a wannabe dicktater (not a misspelling btw) wants to build his reputation, showing how much of an asshole he can be by stomping on THE best revenue generators in his state? Anyone, let me repeat that ANYONE that supports such dumb ass actions is in the minus when it comes to grey matter.

Comshaw

Agree, the state’s powers are not unlimited. The state is subject to Florida state laws, the state constitution, federal law, and the US constitution. As it stands today, Disney is no longer represented on the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District, and the company has suffered no demonstrable devaluation of its property and is being treated no differently than any other business in the state. They certainly have the right to try their luck at reversing the status quo in court.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Agree, the state’s powers are not unlimited. The state is subject to Florida state laws, the state constitution, federal law, and the US constitution. As it stands today, Disney is no longer represented on the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District, and the company has suffered no demonstrable devaluation of its property and is being treated no differently than any other business in the state. They certainly have the right to try their luck at reversing the status quo in court.

And the newly installed Reedy Creek commissioners can shake their tiny pink fist in frustration, having been successfully neutered by the previous commission via a duly executed legal contract!

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Agree, the state’s powers are not unlimited. The state is subject to Florida state laws, the state constitution, federal law, and the US constitution. As it stands today, Disney is no longer represented on the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District, and the company has suffered no demonstrable devaluation of its property and is being treated no differently than any other business in the state. They certainly have the right to try their luck at reversing the status quo in court.

Yeah, that’s not exactly true either. Can you show another special district that had its board replaced by the governor? There are over 2,000 in Florida so it should be easy.
Can you also show another business that had a legal contract canceled by the state?

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

And the newly installed Reedy Creek commissioners can shake their tiny pink fist in frustration, having been successfully neutered by the previous commission via a duly executed legal contract!

ICYMI, the new board nullified it. Disney is now trying their luck in court.