George Bush is awesome!

Pops you should talk to your little bird more

Kerry is not a practicing Catholic to begin with and his wife I believe is from an Orthodox Chirstian. To try and equate him to Kennedy is observe. The pope and the church didnt give him credit because his life is contrary to most of their teachings.

Kennedy gave great speeches, then ran around on his wife with every fluzy that was around. Kennedy was good at coming up Peace corps but a poor tactition...the Bay of Pigs warranted a full scale invasion...not just support of an oppositions. He did get the nuke construction halted which was the end goal I suppose. He and Cruzchev nearly went to nuclear war and back. There is a lot of speculation as to who really killed him. It would be interesting to know who really did?


Okay pops now to your inability to hear the truth. I can take you to the boys grave in Coal Island. It wasnt the British rifle that did him in....you will remember that tanks are more heavily armed. The soldier did him in after he was wounded. If you really travel Ireland and not just the ports you would understand that there are regions still in conflict. In the past few years a lot of the British troop strength and listening posts have been taken down. That has helped tremendously and life is slowly turning around. Belfast has a face lift and Dublin's computer industry and loans from the EU to builld new trains and the like have infused the Irish economy. Right now they have the youngest working population is western Europe. Still most of the progression is in the Republic and the north is still trapped in a bipolar state. The IRA gunmen are now on social welfare and are basically drinking their paychecks waiting for the old ways to return or someone to offer them a job. Okay who wants to higher an alcoholic hitman? Not a whole lot of people. But the bright spot is that the old guard is in control and the young ones respect them. The Blanket men of the sixties are guiding the north into self rule with the help of Blair. Cooperation with the orangemen is still at an impasse though...they stand to lose power gained through centuries of repression. I think most of the norths problems are from a lack of jobs and therefore a lack of hope. Things escalated around the turn of the century because Belfasts textile mills and shipping industry was slowing down. The Catholics lost what few jobs there were...then steps in the IRA. With the prospects of jobs there may yet be hope for Ireland, yet if the industry pulls out and goes for cheaper labor forces in India then they are doomed to repeat their cycle.

Peat is used still on the West coast..but not as a primary heat source....the old farmer who doesnt have too much may resort to finding peat to heat his home...but most people are leaving the west coast and running for Dublin jobs. Dublin has gone from a town of 3000 to a town of 200 000 in a decade. Most of the peat is see is made into trinkets for the tourists....harps, crosses, busts of saints

Blarneystoned
 
Correction

To equate Kerry to Kennedy is absurd....not observe. I still need my coffee.


Blarneystoned
 
Re: Correction

Blarneystoned said:
To equate Kerry to Kennedy is absurd....not observe. I still need my coffee.

Blarneystoned

Yep. You need something.
 
Thanks for that warm greeting Sarah

I can always count on you to send the Hallmark card can't I?

Blarneystoned
 
I see GWB has started a trend: It's apparently essential to being neo-con religious right, that one be dyslexic; even incoherent doesn't hurt:

Pops you should talk to your little bird more
Kerry is not a practicing Catholic to begin with and his wife I believe is from an Orthodox Chirstian. To try and equate him to Kennedy is observe. The pope and the church didnt give him credit because his life is contrary to most of their teachings.

Kennedy gave great speeches, then ran around on his wife with every fluzy that was around. Kennedy was good at coming up Peace corps but a poor tactition...the Bay of Pigs warranted a full scale invasion...not just support of an oppositions. He did get the nuke construction halted which was the end goal I suppose. He and Cruzchev nearly went to nuclear war and back. There is a lot of speculation as to who really killed him. It would be interesting to know who really did?


I see: Kennedy is definitely fuddledoo, but Cruise Chef is clearly pazooli.
 
Dyslexia...

Einstein was dyslexic...and his points got across very well. If syntax is all you can comment on..then my point is getting across rather well because now you are editing my posts...

Thanks hon...I am looking for a good secretary...a business cant function without one


Blarneystoned
 
It is only here in America that we act like English is the only language

yet we are now putting spanish signs up...spanish directions with our appliances etc...It seems our businesses know the consumer well...perhaps one day the public will get around to learning a second language or maybe a third like the Europeans....
 
yup, yer points are certainly diffusedly reargardening the contrapuntal onanismo.
 
Now that was funny!

Im glad your putting effort into interpretting...submit your resume to HR and I will have them call you in 3 business days.

Blarneystoned
 
Re: Dyslexia...

Blarneystoned said:
Einstein was dyslexic...and his points got across very well. If syntax is all you can comment on..then my point is getting across rather well because now you are editing my posts...

Thanks hon...I am looking for a good secretary...a business cant function without one


Blarneystoned

This will be my only post in here because this whole thing is an argument not a debate and frankly I dislike arguments.

Okay, Blarney, lay off the misogynism. If you haven't noticed, this forum hosts a considerable number of ladies and your sexist comments are only infuriating them because well...they're sexist.

Ladies and Pure, lay off the syntax. It's so far removed from anything that it's not even funny. Attack his refusal to read posts, attack his blind unquestioning fact in lies, attack his hairstyle, but leave the english alone. Sometimes people talk poorly. It happens. What matters on a forum is the debate, which as I'll state again, this thread aint.

Referee duty over. Commence beating each other up.
 
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Actually -

Einsten had "Asperger's Syndrome."

It is on the same family tree as autism yet a different branch, really.

Social difficulties, tunnel vision, difficulties being flexible, yet incredibly brilliant - sort of an "absent-minded professor" disease.
 
They are coming up will all kinds of names for genius now

I think they are saying that of Michael Angelo now too...personally I dont think either is the case...it is just the fact that trying to comprehend genius is a life long task and trying to incorporate greatness into all life is and shold be a goal for all....I know that Einsteins brain has been examined over and over. We can't do that for the great renaissance artists because we didnt have formaldehyde...

I think sometimes we are given spiritual heroes to try and attain higher levels of self and to and adjust our own minds too trying achieve more.

Syndromes are disorders and I would hate to label the greats as having a biological deffect that the rest of us dont have...humanity is plagued with strengths and weaknesses...overcoming those weaknesses and fine tuning our strengths so that our weaknesses become strengths is what its all about...

Working in the patent office gave Einstein a place to constantly think about new revolutionary ideas...having an uncle engineer helped him build his dreams...

I would hate to reduce genius into one catagory or disorder..it may be the new buzz word now...and a way that we can grasp it easily and adjust to a teaching format...but it still seems like a category to me


Blarneystoned
 
Do some research, please.

Before you form an opinion.

While it may be one of the new "buzz words" in diagnosing difficulties in children with pervasive developmental disorders, it is real. It does exist.

And we live with it in my family every day.

And I read the latest news about Michelangelo, as well. The diagnosis does make sense, especially with his purpose-driven attention to detail, often to the point of forgetting everything else (eating, changing clothes, etc.)

It's just a way of explaining how the brain works. That's all.
 
The brain

there are so many unmapped regions in the brain perhaps one day we will have more knowlege that will help with its disorders.

Your family is blessed then...the few autism children that I have worked with sometimes see what we dont...they are affectionate and resist change in their world...if we could only achieve their focus and face the world in an embrace like they and many others with neurologic disorders have...we may one day reach their levels...

Blarneystoned
 
Thank you, Blarney -

But please understand. Autism is not the same thing as Asperger's. They just happen to be in the same family tree (and Tourette Syndrome is there, as well).

While they have some similarities in the manner in which they affect the afflicted person's perception of the world around them, they are all very different disorders.

It isn't even a new diagnosis. Hans Asperger first wrote about it in the 1940's. The media is only just now becoming aware of this "latest" thing.

An Asperger's diagnosis is not an insult to Einstein or Michelangelo, far from it. It just helps explain a bit more about their behaviors, their relationships, their first failures and later triumphs.
 
The gifted ones

I guess the only worry I have with putting syndrome labels on our greats is that people will thing they cant achieve the same level when anything is possible...

I doubt Michelangelo or Einstein were cognicient of them having a syndrome...and they were both born before the 1940s...my fear is that we start to categorize all genius....like Mozart being bi polar ...formerly called manic depressive..but now with a more friendly name...that is all I was getting at

I think there will always be people we aspire too and cant fathom how they did things or thought of things...I think those people are put here to inspire the rest of us

Blarneystoned
 
Re: The gifted ones

Blarneystoned said:
... my fear is that we start to categorize all genius....like Mozart being bi polar ...formerly called manic depressive..but now with a more friendly name...that is all I was getting at
I don't understand what the problem is. Byron was very obviously bi-polar (see Touched with Fire by Kay Redfield Jamison). It means something to living artists and others to know they are not "mad" in the sense the word used to mean, i.e., that they are not defective human beings.

Perdita
(diagnosed clinical depressive, talented writer, though not a genius :) )
 
Re: Re: The gifted ones

perdita said:
I don't understand what the problem is. Byron was very obviously bi-polar (see Touched with Fire by Kay Redfield Jamison). It means something to living artists and others to know they are not "mad" in the sense the word used to mean, i.e., that they are not defective human beings.

Perdita
(diagnosed clinical depressive, talented writer, though not a genius :) )

(though very sexy) ;)

Blarney, we can understand more about disorders today by studying those in history who have already suffered through it.
 
Re: The gifted ones

Blarneystoned said:
I guess the only worry I have with putting syndrome labels on our greats is that people will thing they cant achieve the same level when anything is possible...

I doubt Michelangelo or Einstein were cognicient of them having a syndrome...and they were both born before the 1940s...my fear is that we start to categorize all genius....like Mozart being bi polar ...formerly called manic depressive..but now with a more friendly name...that is all I was getting at

I think there will always be people we aspire too and cant fathom how they did things or thought of things...I think those people are put here to inspire the rest of us

Blarneystoned

Sigh, I'm coming back for this point only because this is apolitical.

All the great thinkers and artists and poets were all psychotic in some form or another. That's what it means to be a genius. It means you are not one of the unthinking hordes doing what other people do, acting like other people act. Geniuses are individuals, rebels, or people off their rocking chair. There is a reason that most brilliant ideas begin with a brief period of "your crazy!"

The problem that you and the makers of Ritalin have and share is the deep seated belief that this psychosis, this madness is a bad thing and that all things called syndromes are a bad thing. In truth, people suffering from these syndromes have overcome them to do incredible things. Look at what Poe did even though he was manic-depressive or what Einstein did with Asperger's, Hawkings with paralysis, or Van Gogh with total f***upedness. The mad innovate, the sane degenrate.

So, do you have a disorder yet?
 
Re: The gifted ones

Blarneystoned said:
I guess the only worry I have with putting syndrome labels on our greats is that people will thing they cant achieve the same level when anything is possible...

I doubt Michelangelo or Einstein were cognicient of them having a syndrome...and they were both born before the 1940s...my fear is that we start to categorize all genius....like Mozart being bi polar ...formerly called manic depressive..but now with a more friendly name...that is all I was getting at

I think there will always be people we aspire too and cant fathom how they did things or thought of things...I think those people are put here to inspire the rest of us

Blarneystoned

I'm not really certain what you are saying here.

That people diagnosed with a syndrome were not great?

Or if someone from the past is now diagnosed with a syndrome it somehow explains why they were great?

I think we will eventually discover a great many artists (of all fields) will fall into some of these categories. It just explains how the brain works.
 
Re: Re: The gifted ones

Lucifer_Carroll said:
Sigh, I'm coming back for this point only because this is apolitical.

All the great thinkers and artists and poets were all psychotic in some form or another. That's what it means to be a genius. It means you are not one of the unthinking hordes doing what other people do, acting like other people act. Geniuses are individuals, rebels, or people off their rocking chair. There is a reason that most brilliant ideas begin with a brief period of "your crazy!"

The problem that you and the makers of Ritalin have and share is the deep seated belief that this psychosis, this madness is a bad thing and that all things called syndromes are a bad thing. In truth, people suffering from these syndromes have overcome them to do incredible things. Look at what Poe did even though he was manic-depressive or what Einstein did with Asperger's, Hawkings with paralysis, or Van Gogh with total f***upedness. The mad innovate, the sane degenrate.

So, do you have a disorder yet?

Leave my family out of this! :D

(One small point on this, dear LC. Ritalin and its derivatives can do nothing to help in this situation. Attention Deficit is something else entirely!)

:)
 
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