I know I will regret this..................

The Village Voice

Whip Appealed
A BDSM court case puts master/slave relationships on trial
by Tristan Taormino


Shortly after Glenn Marcus and Jodi (referred to in public records by her first name only) started their master/slave relationship in 1998, he began photographing her as well as other women during BDSM scenes for a website he created called Slavespace.com. In 2001, Jodi left the relationship and asked Marcus to take her photos off the site, but he refused. Two and a half years later, she told the FBI she endured intense sadism at the hands of her master, was forced to work on his website, and felt like she couldn't leave him. The U.S. Attorney charged Marcus under three federal statutes: sex trafficking (coercing or selling a person into a situation of sexual exploitation, like prostitution or pornography); forced labor (using threats or violence to obtain labor or services); and obscenity (for the content of his website). The prosecution offered Marcus a plea deal that included no jail time, which he declined. On March 5, 2007, he was convicted on the first two counts, but the jury ruled that the website was not obscene (a significant and surprising victory, considering it featured images of extreme activities like asphyxiation and temporary genital piercing). The majority of the press coverage focused on the salaciousness of it all ( USA Today: "He punished her by putting a ball in her mouth, closing it shut with surgical needles and hanging her on a wall"), but no one has examined if the verdict was fair or what far reaching consequences it may have for people who practice BDSM.

In court, Jodi painted a picture of a monster-master who abused her. She said she was afraid to leave because Marcus threatened to show her family the photos, an abundance of which helped illustrate her horror story�the New York Post called it "a website filled with depraved images of her bleeding and bruised body." Curiously, Jodi socialized and vacationed with Marcus several times after the break up. Marcus asserted that their master/slave dynamic, their scenes, and her work on the website was consensual; Jodi's former roommate and Marcus's ex-girlfriend, Rona, testified that nothing was done to Jodi against her will and that Marcus was "lots of fun."

I suspect it was tough for the defense to get a jury to understand such an unorthodox dynamic to begin with, let alone the difference between a healthy one and a dysfunctional one. Ideally, consensual d/s relationships are designed for both partners to get their needs met, but they can be complicated and very intense.

Much of Jodi's testimony was about being subjected to pain, punishment, and humiliation. Most people don't want to be controlled, used, hurt, tortured, or degraded, so it's hard for them to comprehend that some people want to experience sensations and emotions that are generally considered negative or painful. But successful d/s relationships are like well-choreographed dances: there is a clear leader and a clear follower and both partners get a lot out of their respective roles. The dominant provides structure and guidance, and the submissive wants to surrender control. Each person has equal power within the relationship, but the dominant has more authority. But the lines between dominance and egomaniacal control or between submission and low self-esteem can be blurry to the untrained eye. A dominant on a power trip who likes to manipulate and prey on weakness is as dangerous as a submissive who doesn't know what she wants and can't stand up for herself, and neither is fit for a d/s relationship.

I don't know enough about Marcus and Jodi to know if there were some serious personality flaws lurking beneath their chosen roles. What is clear is that the relationship began as consensual but, for Jodi, at some point this changed. It's possible that she regretted her participation and re-wrote her role into an unwilling victim, but it's equally likely that Marcus lost touch with reality, believed he actually owned her, and behaved accordingly. The relationship was even thornier because it was entwined with a for-profit business. Masters and mistresses order their slaves to do lots of things: clean the house, lick Mistress's boots, give Master a blowjob, and so on. When Marcus made his slave do things or he did things to her, there was profit to be made from it�more specifically, from the photos he took and posted on Slavespace.com, which was membership-based. Furthermore, he tasked her with working on technical aspects of the site and considered that part of her service to him as a slave, so he didn't pay her. (Sources I spoke to said they both lived off the site's profits.)

We may never know the whole truth of this he-say-she-say story, but jurors determined that Marcus crossed the line. Alan, a lawyer who spoke to several experts who testified and who blogged about the trial (alanesq.livejournal.com), told me he believes Marcus's fate probably hinged on the fact that Jodi consented to non-consensual play�a concept not unheard of among players, but one which negates the consent.

"After eight days of deliberation, it's hard to accuse the jury of being less than diligent," Marcus's attorney, Maurice H. Sercarz, told me. "They were put in a difficult predicament. If they feel like he did something wrong, their only option was these really serious charges, which I believe do not fit what happened." In other BDSM cases, defendants have been charged with assault, and Marcus could have been charged with unlawful imprisonment or extortion if the case wasn't tried in federal court. (The reason this became a federal case is because Jodi's lawyer first reported the incident on her behalf to the U.S. Attorney, not local law enforcement.) Because these are federal charges, Marcus faces life in prison, a fact that has sent a chill down the spines of some BDSM community members. The charges and potential sentence do seem unnecessarily severe and could set a precedent for future cases. Although experts say that such a harsh sentence is unlikely, under federal sentencing guidelines, if BDSM is part of the crime, a longer sentence is recommended. Sercarz's motion to dismiss is pending and he says they will appeal if he is sentenced. Others see the verdict as positive for the community. Alan wrote: "What this trial says is that people can choose to engage in whatever safe, sane, and consensual relationship they desire, but when someone goes beyond the spectrum of consent, they open themselves up to substantial criminal liability. And frankly, if there are people who do venture into activities which are non-consensual, they now know what to expect."
 
@}-}rebecca---- said:
Miss Grace kittens YAY.........thanks !

Actually that's just two of them. Their was 7, but they went so fast I wasn't able to get a picture of all of them. My neighbors took 2, and her mother took 1, and another neighbor took 1, and 1 died :(.
 
graceanne said:
Actually that's just two of them. Their was 7, but they went so fast I wasn't able to get a picture of all of them. My neighbors took 2, and her mother took 1, and another neighbor took 1, and 1 died :(.
Well they found homes , sorry about the one that died Grace . That would have been tough to deal with , dear sweet little thing. You keeping these two ?
 
SMH ~ Home Sweet Home

Spanking fetish makes men happier: study

Bondage and discipline may actually make men happier, according to the first national survey of Australian fetish habits.

The new sex study has revealed that two per cent of Australian men and 1.4 per cent of women admit to enjoying dominance, submission and sadomasochism-type sex in the past year.

But researchers involved in the phone survey of 20,000 people say they expect many more Australians to be engaging in the practice but unwilling to label it BDSM (bondage, discipline, domination and submission).

"There will definitely be more men and women who have sexual tastes in this direction but won't call it this," said Dr Juliet Richters, of the University of New South Wales.

"They might not like sex magazines but they just happen to like being tied up and spanked as part of foreplay.

"Ask them if they're into BDSM they'll say 'Yuck, no'."

The survey results, to be presented at the World Association of Sexual Health congress in Sydney this week, give the first snapshot of Australians involved in bondage behaviour.

These fetishes were most common among gay, lesbian and bisexual people and heterosexuals who are "bi-interested", said Dr Richters, the lead researcher.

In women, BDSM was most popular among under 20-year-olds and those who had a partner they didn't live with. There were no age or relationship trends in men, she said.

People who engaged in the habit were more likely to be sexually adventurous in other ways, like trying anal sex and phone sex, looking at internet pornography or using sex toys.

"These are people for whom sex is a hobby," Dr Richters said.

They were no more likely to have suffered sexual difficulties, sexual abuse or coercion or anxiety than other Australians.

In fact, says Dr Richters, men into BDSM scored significantly better on a scale of psychological wellbeing than other men.

"This seems to imply that these men are actually happier as a result of their behaviour, though we're not sure why," she said.

"It might just be that they're more in harmony with themselves because they're into something unusual and are comfortable with that.

"There's a lot to be said for accepting who you are."

At the other end of the spectrum - least happy - were men who reported being attracted to men but had never acted on their desire and didn't regard themselves as gay.

Researchers said the study helps break down the reigning stereotype that people into bondage and discipline were damaged as children and were therefore "dysfunctional".

"We really found that BDSM is simply a sexual interest or subculture attractive to a minority, not a pathological symptom of past abuse or difficulty with 'normal' sex," Dr Richters said.

"They've just got a broader and more unusual sexual repertoire than most."
____________________________________________________________

Ohh there is so much comedic potential in that article I wouldn't know where to begin .

signed

Miss Unusual Sexual Repertoire
:rose:
 
@}-}rebecca---- said:
Whip Appealed
A BDSM court case puts master/slave relationships on trial
by Tristan Taormino


Shortly after Glenn Marcus and Jodi (referred to in public records by her first name only) started their master/slave relationship in 1998, he began photographing her as well as other women during BDSM scenes for a website he created called Slavespace.com. In 2001, Jodi left the relationship and asked Marcus to take her photos off the site, but he refused. Two and a half years later, she told the FBI she endured intense sadism at the hands of her master, was forced to work on his website, and felt like she couldn't leave him. The U.S. Attorney charged Marcus under three federal statutes: sex trafficking (coercing or selling a person into a situation of sexual exploitation, like prostitution or pornography); forced labor (using threats or violence to obtain labor or services); and obscenity (for the content of his website). The prosecution offered Marcus a plea deal that included no jail time, which he declined. On March 5, 2007, he was convicted on the first two counts, but the jury ruled that the website was not obscene (a significant and surprising victory, considering it featured images of extreme activities like asphyxiation and temporary genital piercing). The majority of the press coverage focused on the salaciousness of it all ( USA Today: "He punished her by putting a ball in her mouth, closing it shut with surgical needles and hanging her on a wall"), but no one has examined if the verdict was fair or what far reaching consequences it may have for people who practice BDSM.

In court, Jodi painted a picture of a monster-master who abused her. She said she was afraid to leave because Marcus threatened to show her family the photos, an abundance of which helped illustrate her horror story?the New York Post called it "a website filled with depraved images of her bleeding and bruised body." Curiously, Jodi socialized and vacationed with Marcus several times after the break up. Marcus asserted that their master/slave dynamic, their scenes, and her work on the website was consensual; Jodi's former roommate and Marcus's ex-girlfriend, Rona, testified that nothing was done to Jodi against her will and that Marcus was "lots of fun."

I suspect it was tough for the defense to get a jury to understand such an unorthodox dynamic to begin with, let alone the difference between a healthy one and a dysfunctional one. Ideally, consensual d/s relationships are designed for both partners to get their needs met, but they can be complicated and very intense.

Much of Jodi's testimony was about being subjected to pain, punishment, and humiliation. Most people don't want to be controlled, used, hurt, tortured, or degraded, so it's hard for them to comprehend that some people want to experience sensations and emotions that are generally considered negative or painful. But successful d/s relationships are like well-choreographed dances: there is a clear leader and a clear follower and both partners get a lot out of their respective roles. The dominant provides structure and guidance, and the submissive wants to surrender control. Each person has equal power within the relationship, but the dominant has more authority. But the lines between dominance and egomaniacal control or between submission and low self-esteem can be blurry to the untrained eye. A dominant on a power trip who likes to manipulate and prey on weakness is as dangerous as a submissive who doesn't know what she wants and can't stand up for herself, and neither is fit for a d/s relationship.

I don't know enough about Marcus and Jodi to know if there were some serious personality flaws lurking beneath their chosen roles. What is clear is that the relationship began as consensual but, for Jodi, at some point this changed. It's possible that she regretted her participation and re-wrote her role into an unwilling victim, but it's equally likely that Marcus lost touch with reality, believed he actually owned her, and behaved accordingly. The relationship was even thornier because it was entwined with a for-profit business. Masters and mistresses order their slaves to do lots of things: clean the house, lick Mistress's boots, give Master a blowjob, and so on. When Marcus made his slave do things or he did things to her, there was profit to be made from it?more specifically, from the photos he took and posted on Slavespace.com, which was membership-based. Furthermore, he tasked her with working on technical aspects of the site and considered that part of her service to him as a slave, so he didn't pay her. (Sources I spoke to said they both lived off the site's profits.)

We may never know the whole truth of this he-say-she-say story, but jurors determined that Marcus crossed the line. Alan, a lawyer who spoke to several experts who testified and who blogged about the trial (alanesq.livejournal.com), told me he believes Marcus's fate probably hinged on the fact that Jodi consented to non-consensual play?a concept not unheard of among players, but one which negates the consent.

"After eight days of deliberation, it's hard to accuse the jury of being less than diligent," Marcus's attorney, Maurice H. Sercarz, told me. "They were put in a difficult predicament. If they feel like he did something wrong, their only option was these really serious charges, which I believe do not fit what happened." In other BDSM cases, defendants have been charged with assault, and Marcus could have been charged with unlawful imprisonment or extortion if the case wasn't tried in federal court. (The reason this became a federal case is because Jodi's lawyer first reported the incident on her behalf to the U.S. Attorney, not local law enforcement.) Because these are federal charges, Marcus faces life in prison, a fact that has sent a chill down the spines of some BDSM community members. The charges and potential sentence do seem unnecessarily severe and could set a precedent for future cases. Although experts say that such a harsh sentence is unlikely, under federal sentencing guidelines, if BDSM is part of the crime, a longer sentence is recommended. Sercarz's motion to dismiss is pending and he says they will appeal if he is sentenced. Others see the verdict as positive for the community. Alan wrote: "What this trial says is that people can choose to engage in whatever safe, sane, and consensual relationship they desire, but when someone goes beyond the spectrum of consent, they open themselves up to substantial criminal liability. And frankly, if there are people who do venture into activities which are non-consensual, they now know what to expect."

I read this once before and felt ambivalent about it then. Feel ambivalent about it now. It is awful that someone could be prosecuted for the choices they make in a relationship. On the other hand, not related directly to the BDSM, it seems that they gentleman in question was using his relationship in an economically exploitive way. While he certainly should not have been jailed, separations can get messy, particularly if in hindsite the lady in question felt cheated...

I was actually pretty amazed by the lack of bias exhibited by the journalist, even given that it was published in the VV.

~ Neon
 
@}-}rebecca---- said:
Spanking fetish makes men happier: study

Bondage and discipline may actually make men happier, according to the first national survey of Australian fetish habits.

The new sex study has revealed that two per cent of Australian men and 1.4 per cent of women admit to enjoying dominance, submission and sadomasochism-type sex in the past year.

But researchers involved in the phone survey of 20,000 people say they expect many more Australians to be engaging in the practice but unwilling to label it BDSM (bondage, discipline, domination and submission).

"There will definitely be more men and women who have sexual tastes in this direction but won't call it this," said Dr Juliet Richters, of the University of New South Wales.

"They might not like sex magazines but they just happen to like being tied up and spanked as part of foreplay.

"Ask them if they're into BDSM they'll say 'Yuck, no'."

The survey results, to be presented at the World Association of Sexual Health congress in Sydney this week, give the first snapshot of Australians involved in bondage behaviour.

These fetishes were most common among gay, lesbian and bisexual people and heterosexuals who are "bi-interested", said Dr Richters, the lead researcher.

In women, BDSM was most popular among under 20-year-olds and those who had a partner they didn't live with. There were no age or relationship trends in men, she said.

People who engaged in the habit were more likely to be sexually adventurous in other ways, like trying anal sex and phone sex, looking at internet pornography or using sex toys.

"These are people for whom sex is a hobby," Dr Richters said.

They were no more likely to have suffered sexual difficulties, sexual abuse or coercion or anxiety than other Australians.

In fact, says Dr Richters, men into BDSM scored significantly better on a scale of psychological wellbeing than other men.

"This seems to imply that these men are actually happier as a result of their behaviour, though we're not sure why," she said.

"It might just be that they're more in harmony with themselves because they're into something unusual and are comfortable with that.

"There's a lot to be said for accepting who you are."

At the other end of the spectrum - least happy - were men who reported being attracted to men but had never acted on their desire and didn't regard themselves as gay.

Researchers said the study helps break down the reigning stereotype that people into bondage and discipline were damaged as children and were therefore "dysfunctional".

"We really found that BDSM is simply a sexual interest or subculture attractive to a minority, not a pathological symptom of past abuse or difficulty with 'normal' sex," Dr Richters said.

"They've just got a broader and more unusual sexual repertoire than most."
____________________________________________________________

Ohh there is so much comedic potential in that article I wouldn't know where to begin .

signed

Miss Unusual Sexual Repertoire
:rose:

No, please, begin! :The queer kinster grrl settles comfortably on floor with legs crossed and waits with anticipation: :D

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.

.

.

.

Ok, now I want to know why it's mainly women under 20? And why do they only refer to "men" but not "women" in the headline? Does that mean that men down under are always the spankees? And where does that leave our dear Miss Rebecca !?@#!?!!! I would be happy to come over now and then and administer a couple of swats, just to make sure that you aren't left in need, you know. Or perhaps I could ask Fu. Oh! :lightbulb on: Now I truly understand that hankering to travel, LOL! ;)
 
neonflux said:
No, please, begin! :The queer kinster grrl settles comfortably on floor with legs crossed and waits with anticipation: :D

: watches Hell freeze over laughs a bit :
neonflux said:
Ok, now I want to know why it's mainly women under 20? And why do they only refer to "men" but not "women" in the headline? Does that mean that men down under are always the spankees? And where does that leave our dear Miss Rebecca !?@#!?!!! I would be happy to come over now and then and administer a couple of swats, just to make sure that you aren't left in need, you know. Or perhaps I could ask Fu. Oh! :lightbulb on: Now I truly understand that hankering to travel, LOL! ;)
Well it's like this , I think that mystery disease that is threatening huge colonies of bees has wiped out most of the Australian doms with in any potential attributes that I might be able to recognise . Perhaps it's moi .

I don't want to travel for 'that'. I just miss travel/exploring/learning , it suits me . I am getting to the evolving stage of not wanting to watch National Geographic any longer , I want to be living it again. Closest thing to compensation I can muster for now.
 
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I'll show you my neck of the woods if you'll show me yours :D

P.S., images of all of those spankees down your way are making it oh-so-tempting! ;)
 
neonflux said:
I'll show you my neck of the woods if you'll show me yours :D

P.S., images of all of those spankees down your way are making it oh-so-tempting! ;)
Oh my .......reaaaaaaaally. You rock Neon :kiss: :rose:
 
RJMasters said:
4U:rose: Click image to view and listen, marker 2;40 is where I got the inspiration for the above cut and paste.

Hope all is well.

~Rich

:bigsmilesss:

Thank you Mr Masters I love it. Ohhh....... especially the part where the claw hand comes out in the clip , that translates at several levels. Oh my........ :chuckles:

All is as it is , thank you for asking :rose:

PS : The mix of genre styles is unique. Me likey .
 
graceanne said:
Pictures of my cats, (and the back of me).
Ohhhh Miss Grace , I am honored thank you. So many lovely furry companions . It's a wonder we don't have a dedicated pet thread just for this board or do we .

I'll be clear I love having the pictures posted on this thread however.

Great furry Karma :cool:
 
pssst! Miss Rebecca! Check out Shankie's "Sneak-a-peek – Body Play" thread...

:D
 
neonflux said:
but, but, but... it really was a love note - i even made it with my own two widdle hands on my own widdle computer :eek:

:kiss: :kiss: :kiss:
not you - silly girl -

Frida
 
@}-}rebecca---- said:
Ohhhh Miss Grace , I am honored thank you. So many lovely furry companions . It's a wonder we don't have a dedicated pet thread just for this board or do we .

I'll be clear I love having the pictures posted on this thread however.

Great furry Karma :cool:

Thanks. We did have a thread for our furry companions, but I don't remember what it's called or who started it.

I've found a site that I can put pic's, and only people who know the password can see those pic's. We spent the day at the amusement park and I got some AWESOME pics on my new phone. The addy is: http://public.fotki.com/graceanne1978 and the password is my real name. If you've been here awhile and still don't know (or don't remember) my real name, and want to know just PM me. If you haven't - don't bother. These pictures have my kids in them, and I'm not letting the average lurker or newbie look at pictures of my kids. It's not that cold in hell.
 
graceanne said:
Thanks. We did have a thread for our furry companions, but I don't remember what it's called or who started it.

I've found a site that I can put pic's, and only people who know the password can see those pic's. We spent the day at the amusement park and I got some AWESOME pics on my new phone. The addy is: http://public.fotki.com/graceanne1978 and the password is my real name. If you've been here awhile and still don't know (or don't remember) my real name, and want to know just PM me. If you haven't - don't bother. These pictures have my kids in them, and I'm not letting the average lurker or newbie look at pictures of my kids. It's not that cold in hell.
Ohh Miss Grace thank you that's brilliant. Camera's in mobiles are fun huh. I don't even own a digital camera ! Thank you for the link , I look forward to looking at your pictures :rose:

Also on a bright note, our Dommy who had been MIA turned up at home last night. Fretting time officially YAY . Ohhh and as Fu says 'damn pussies'.

Edit Here we have it snoozing on it's submissives bed after having her deeply sad and concerned for an extended time frame.

http://img18.imagevenue.com/loc736/th_03409_bad_dommy_122_736lo.jpg

click to resize and see the sheer lack of concern for my emotional wellbeing end of edit
 
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Ebonyfire said:
Tsk! tsk!
Ohhh Eb Ma'am , I beseech you please avert your ear/eyes . I was mortified , I don't know what transgression I have perpetrated against my darling Fu for him to behave in such a heinous manner and bring 'Abba' onto the thread.

: cries & shudders deeply :
 
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