Impeach Trump

[Kirkrapine]

impeachment talk is premature.

At what point would it mature?

 

[BoyNextDoor]

At what point would it mature?

Once the new Congress has had a chanes to call witnesses to testify uner oath and the special counsel concludes their investigation

 

[KeithD]

I see no reason not to talk about it now in Congress and throughout the nation. Voters are talking about it and it drives Trump up the wall. I can only think that it's the detracting/deflecting Trumpettes who don't want to mull it in public. They will never want to talk about it. They will always try to deflect and deflect from it, as they are trying to do here.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

It's a witch hunt!



Throw a bucket of water on him and watch him melt

 

[KeithD]

It's a witch hunt!

Well, of course it is. Hasn't every president had his lawyer, campaign chairman and deputy chairman, and national security adviser ("all the best people") convicted of felonies? Hasn't every president had his election campaign, his inaugural committee, his business, his "charity" foundation, his children, and himself under state and federal investigation? Hasn't every president had direct contact with a Russian spy approaching him through the NRA? Hasn't every president used his position to fill his business coffers? Hasn't every president of the United States been an asset of the Russians? Hasn't every president been directly complicit in the butchering of an American resident and journalist to aid his own business? Hasn't every president used campaign funds to pay off his prostitutes?

 

[Kirkrapine]

Once the new Congress has had a chanes to call witnesses to testify uner oath and the special counsel concludes their investigation

It seems at this point that Mueller will never conclude his investigation!

 

[Boxlicker101]

It seems at this point that Mueller will never conclude his investigation!

Not so. When The Donald terms out in six years, Mueller will probably announce there is nothing to report.

 

[ishtat]

It seems at this point that Mueller will never conclude his investigation!

He'll finish it, but definitely not before the new House is seated.

 

[SpeareChucker]

As long as Trump is still standing, he is never going to finish. He knows his greatest contribution to the effort to undo the election is the constant fog of investigation.

I've just shut politics out of my life because no one is talking about any legislation that makes a difference in your, my or anyone else's life. It's just destroy the Trump family 24/7...

 

[BoyNextDoor]

It seems at this point that Mueller will never conclude his investigation!

WhiteWater was around eight years. Iran-Contra was six years. Benghazi was 4 years ... This thing is in its early-ish stages, relatively, and already has produced more results than most. I do not believe the new congress is going to mess around. Hearings will be convened quickly and I'd imagine that the unindicted co-conspirator's family and confidants are next. So you have a bit of a wait before the unindicted co-conspirator himself is at bat.

https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/59428b9d688ad25f008b48b8-750-605.png

 

[Rokk0n]

As long as Trump is still standing, he is never going to finish. He knows his greatest contribution to the effort to undo the election is the constant fog of investigation.

I've just shut politics out of my life because no one is talking about any legislation that makes a difference in your, my or anyone else's life. It's just destroy the Trump family 24/7...

The biggest mistake is to think that political argument (or discourse of any kind) on

the general board, is a representation of anything normal.

 

[SpeareChucker]

The biggest mistake is to think that political argument (or discourse of any kind) on

the general board, is a representation of anything normal.

Did I even mention the board?

 

[Luk]

As long as Trump is still standing, he is never going to finish. He knows his greatest contribution to the effort to undo the election is the constant fog of investigation.

I've just shut politics out of my life because no one is talking about any legislation that makes a difference in your, my or anyone else's life. It's just destroy the Trump family 24/7...

You've stopped talking politics because your guy is getting hammered and about to be in deeper shit.

 

[Rokk0n]

The biggest mistake is to think that political argument (or discourse of any kind) on

the general board, is a representation of anything normal.

Did I even mention the board?

No you did not. Talk to people IRL for a realistic perspective.

 

[HisArpy]

WhiteWater was around eight years. Iran-Contra was six years. Benghazi was 4 years ... This thing is in its early-ish stages, relatively, and already has produced more results than most. I do not believe the new congress is going to mess around. Hearings will be convened quickly and I'd imagine that the unindicted co-conspirator's family and confidants are next. So you have a bit of a wait before the unindicted co-conspirator himself is at bat.

https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/59428b9d688ad25f008b48b8-750-605.png

That chart gets posted every once in awhile and you don't understand the significance in it.

Look at the different investigations. Not just the length, but the purpose of the investigations.

Notice how the SHORT ONES were all investigations into crimes we actually had evidence for?

Supposedly at the beginning of Mueller's appointment we had evidence of "Russian Collusion" to rig the election for Trump. If that was the case, why are we still investigating? It should have been a slam dunk short investigation like the Watergate investigation. Which, BTW, Trump gets tagged with being similar to quite often. IF his offense was so "watergate-ish" WHY THE HELL is Mueller still investigating after all this time?

Answer: Because he's got nothing and he's off in the weeds pursuing process crimes against bit players.

And you don't understand that. Which is why you post that chart in order to justify why he's taking so long to find what everyone was saying we already had proof of.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

That chart gets posted every once in awhile and you don't understand the significance in it.

Look at the different investigations. Not just the length, but the purpose of the investigations.

Notice how the SHORT ONES were all investigations into crimes we actually had evidence for?

Supposedly at the beginning of Mueller's appointment we had evidence of "Russian Collusion" to rig the election for Trump. If that was the case, why are we still investigating? It should have been a slam dunk short investigation like the Watergate investigation. Which, BTW, Trump gets tagged with being similar to quite often. IF his offense was so "watergate-ish" WHY THE HELL is Mueller still investigating after all this time?

Answer: Because he's got nothing and he's off in the weeds pursuing process crimes against bit players.

And you don't understand that. Which is why you post that chart in order to justify why he's taking so long to find what everyone was saying we already had proof of.

I fully understand the significance of it. You clearly do not. Muller is NOT "taking so long to find what everyone was saying we already had proof of (sic)"

The relative brevity of the Mueller investigation and the guilty verdicts, pleas and indictments to date should have you reconsidering your comments.

 

[HisArpy]

I fully understand the significance of it. You clearly do not. Muller is NOT "taking so long to find what everyone was saying we already had proof of (sic)"

The relative brevity of the Mueller investigation and the guilty verdicts, pleas and indictments to date should have you reconsidering your comments.

Mueller's investigation, combined with the pre-appointment investigation, are already at the average length of time for these types of investigations.

Note how the investigations for offenses which there was evidence, are short. And that investigations for which there is no evidence of the original offense are long.

Also, note that Mueller's appointment was for an offense everyone "knew" the evidence was obvious, blatant, and easily obtainable. Yet, here we are at the average length of time for ALL special counsel investigations, long and short.

Basically, at this point Muller has gone beyond the time needed to find evidence of the crimes which everyone already "knew" and "had evidence of" occurring. He's entering the zone for investigations which DO NOT result in evidence being found for the original appointment's purpose.

It's a subtle distinction, but you missed it completely. There's another one in there too and you're not catching that one either.

 

[phrodeau]

Mueller's investigation, combined with the pre-appointment investigation, are already at the average length of time for these types of investigations.

Note how the investigations for offenses which there was evidence, are short. And that investigations for which there is no evidence of the original offense are long.

Also, note that Mueller's appointment was for an offense everyone "knew" the evidence was obvious, blatant, and easily obtainable. Yet, here we are at the average length of time for ALL special counsel investigations, long and short.

Basically, at this point Muller has gone beyond the time needed to find evidence of the crimes which everyone already "knew" and "had evidence of" occurring. He's entering the zone for investigations which DO NOT result in evidence being found for the original appointment's purpose.

It's a subtle distinction, but you missed it completely. There's another one in there too and you're not catching that one either.

Mueller was appointed to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 election.

No less a personage than the President claimed that the evidence was far from obvious. "It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs four hundred pounds, OK?

 

[Que]

Mueller was appointed to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 election.

No less a personage than the President claimed that the evidence was far from obvious. "It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs four hundred pounds, OK?

What interference?

 

[phrodeau]

What interference?

This.

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Also, note that Mueller's appointment was for an offense everyone "knew" the evidence was obvious, blatant, and easily obtainable.

Now go look it up.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Mueller's investigation, combined with the pre-appointment investigation, are already at the average length of time for these types of investigations.

Note how the investigations for offenses which there was evidence, are short. And that investigations for which there is no evidence of the original offense are long.

Also, note that Mueller's appointment was for an offense everyone "knew" the evidence was obvious, blatant, and easily obtainable. Yet, here we are at the average length of time for ALL special counsel investigations, long and short.

Basically, at this point Muller has gone beyond the time needed to find evidence of the crimes which everyone already "knew" and "had evidence of" occurring. He's entering the zone for investigations which DO NOT result in evidence being found for the original appointment's purpose.

It's a subtle distinction, but you missed it completely. There's another one in there too and you're not catching that one either.

No. You are completely off base. Completely wrong.

Note how the investigations for offenses for which there was evidence, under this investigation have been short:

Convicted: Paul Manafort
Pleaded guilty: Michael Cohen
Pleaded guilty: W. Samuel Patten
Pleaded guilty: Rick Gates
Pleaded guilty: Alex van der Zwann
Pleaded guilty: Richard Pinedo
Pleaded guilty: Michael Flynn
Pleaded guilty: George Papadopoulos
Indicted: 12 Russian intelligence officers on a litany of alleged crimes
Indicted: Konstantin Kilimnik
Indicted: 13 Russians and three Russian entities for "information warfare" with "the stated goal of spreading distrust towards the candidates and the political system in general."

I agree that where there is evidence it is reflected in the relative brevity of the investigation AND there is just so much shit here it is taking a while to process precisely because there is so much evidence to wade through.

And Next comes the inner circle - Jared, Tiny, Jr., etal. And after that the Unindicted Orange Dick Head Himself because there is so much evidence.

All I said to KingRapine was have a little patience on the Impeachment talk until we get there.

I mean what more do you want? FFS - this investigation has produced more convictions, guilty pleas and indictments than the rest combined and it is not even over. It is only Day 560.

 

[BotanyBoy]

This.
Now go look it up.

Oh looks like phro can't back up his claims either......must be Trump Derangement Syndrome.

 

[Bill_Cosplay]

The thing about Trump is: you'd be a fool not have faith in him coming out of this on top. The guy is a winner at life. He's succeeded, failed, didn't let that stop him, succeeded again and when he wanted to be president, he became president. He has had a better life than most when it comes to accomplishments and he is guaranteed to be remembered throughout history. The only place I hear people talking about trump is on TV and forums, a small % of the population, the rest don't care. Come voting day, they'll do their best to recall everything and eventually vote down party lines and for those without a party, they'll vote for whoever makes them the least amount of sick.

The possible impeachment will fail in the end, as Clinton's did, but it is a tool of persuasion for the next election. That is all it is. It may help, it may not, but you guys are jerking off to soon and you're so focused on hating someone that you can't see why it's being done. It's not to get him out of office now, it's to get him out of office during the next election.

 

[von_Bismarck]

As long as Trump is still standing, he is never going to finish. He knows his greatest contribution to the effort to undo the election is the constant fog of investigation.

I've just shut politics out of my life because no one is talking about any legislation that makes a difference in your, my or anyone else's life. It's just destroy the Trump family 24/7...

What goes around comes around, fuckface.

 

[splish splash]

If the government of the United States is, indeed, "of the people, by the people, for the people," then intentionally lying to the American people must logically be at least as egregious a federal misdemeanor as lying to Congress or government investigators is. And, of course, "misdemeanors" are constitutional cause for impeaching a President. I felt the same way when Nixon stared straight into the TV camera and maliciously lied to the American people, as I did when Clinton did the same, and as I do now as Trump continues to lie to the American people virtually every day, it seems.

I offer there's nothing better that can be done for the constitutional health of this country than for the Democrats to be drawing up legitimate articles of impeachment as I post, and for the new Democrat-majority House of Representatives to levy those articles as its initial order of business when it first convenes on January 3, 2019. And then the Democrat's second order of business should be to propose an Article of Amendment to the Constitution to repeal the 2nd by modifying constitutional arms rights to more reflect current public opinion.

Again, I don't believe any other two bare suggestions could possibly, positively rectify more the current direction this country continues to move toward.

Why wasn’t the moslom impeached for treason because he’s a black libturd