IMPORTANT - Trouble With Smashwords/Draft2Digital

Kasumi_Lee

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If you publish erotica via Smashwords/Draft2Digital, you need to read this post.

I've just had a very distressing week going back and forth with D2D's support team and head of operations regarding what should be my latest ebook release. For one thing, I need to get this off my chest, but more importantly, the approach and attitude taken by D2D potentially bodes ill for erotica authors.

Here's the backstory. A few months ago, after my account was migrated from Smashwords to D2D, I updated the keywords on a certain taboo erotica story and its French and German translations. Being taboo, only Smashwords would accept this sort of material, and they had already accepted all three stories and all three identical censored cover images. Unlike Smashwords, which did manual reviews of every submitted cover image, D2D relies on automated filtering software which has proven very unreliable.

How unreliable? It blocked the English version of this story's cover for being "inappropriate" even though it had already been censored, but it APPROVED the identical and identically censored French and German cover images. I got in contact with D2D, who responded three days later to unblock the book on the grounds that Smashwords had already approved the image. No acknowledgement of the fact that their filtering software treated the same image differently.

Now the latest incident also involves taboo erotica, but is somewhat different. For my latest ebook cover image, I covered up the woman's breasts with big black circles and assumed that her raised thigh completely concealing her crotch would be enough. To be fully transparent, I'll admit that in retrospect this particular image was pushing the line rather too much. When it got blocked from distribution to Smashwords by the same filtering software, I uploaded a more compliant cover but couldn't get past the publishing page because you have to select at least one retailer and all of them, including Smashwords, were blocked.

It took another three days for D2D to reply by explaining to me that cover images, even those for taboo erotica, need to take into account the sensibilities of "families and young adults" (I'm not kidding). They stuck by this explanation even after I pointed out the obvious problem with it, but were kind enough to unblock my ebook so that I could upload the new cover. I created a much more compliant cover with only the model's bare arms, pregnant belly, and face exposed . . . only for the compliant cover to be blocked within minutes. I have resubmitted the image (before the delisting window closes, preventing republication) and also contacted Smashwords directly who responded within hours to assure me that the revision should be live in the next 12 hours.

Why This Matters

I joined Smashwords long before Draft2Digital swallowed it up, so I completely understand the cover requirements. Feel free to tell me that I should have known better than to push the envelope (I'm regretting it plenty already), but this is also ominously illuminating regarding the different styles of customer service practiced by Smashwords and D2D. As far as I can tell, Smashwords would always manually review all submissions. On the rare occasions when my images have been rejected, they've always told me what was wrong and I've promptly fixed it. More importantly, there was (and still seems to be) a genuine good faith attempt to help authors comply in a way that doesn't assume we're edgy perverts looking for ways to circumvent the rules.

By contrast, D2D's customer support center is open from 11am to 2pm four days a week. Unless they're severely understaffed, which they might be given the demands of handling account migration, that speaks volumes about their attitude towards customers/writers. There's also the fact that they take three working days or more to reply to emails, and although they at least give direct and to-the-point answers, the tone is often downright surly. The latest email, the one that told me my ebook had been unblocked so that I could upload a new cover, also basically threatened me with account termination if future issues like this were to occur. Given that the first incident (the one with the identical covers being treated differently) arose from their shitty filtering software, this threat was fucking outrageous.

I'll be honest, my gut reaction to that email was that the person who wrote it should do us all a favor and go skinny dipping in a piranha tank. I remained rational enough not to reply, let alone with anything like that, but it gave me such a visceral reaction because it reminded me of the way Amazon's content review team treat authors whose works are found to be in violation of its own incredibly vague content guidelines, sometimes for reasons that Amazon refuses to disclose. D2D, to it's credit, at least has a clear and transparent set of rules for the kinds of content it will and won't accept (actually, Smashwords should get the credit for that). D2D also relies on humans (however borderline rude) to answer author queries instead of Amazon's approach of sending cut-and-paste emails triggered by algorithms; but the similarities in attitudes is disturbing, especially in contrast to the customer service you get from the likes of Smashwords.

Paranoia or Portent?

As I type this post, my latest D2D ebook is currently publishing to Smashwords, the only retailer that will accept it. I've been assured by Smashwords (who got back to me in only an hour) that they've been in contact with D2D and are going to review the ebook as normal and publish it for preorder in the next 12 hours. I'm cautiously optimistic that this particular incident will be resolved.

I'm less optimistic about what this means for publishing erotica, taboo or otherwise, via D2D. The charitable explanation is that D2D has its hands full handling the migration of accounts from Smashwords to its own platform, and doesn't have the resources to manually review every submission, forcing it to rely on imperfect filtering software. No doubt, it also fears the reputational damage if a false negative were to slip through the cracks, and would rather throw authors under the bus than allow that to happen. The incident with the three identical covers approved by Smashwords but being treated differently by D2D is especially disturbing because it means that covers previously approved by Smashwords aren't necessarily safe from retrospective blocking by their new owners.

I have no idea if the charitable explanation is actually the case, but at a minimum there is a clear culture clash between Smashwords and D2D and how they handle customer service and resolving content review issues. I'll certainly be a lot more cautious about the cover images I select from Shutterstock going forward, but my trust in D2D has really been shaken.

#UPDATE#

After my ebook was delisted and blocked once again, even with the new compliant cover, I finally got customer service to solve the issue.
 
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I'm not holding high hopes for D2D.

A friend of mine got a strike on his account for "Not tagging bestiality" in a story between a human woman and alien male. Because the human is referred to as kitten. But there's a woman on the cover and the "kitten" has a purse and photo ID. (It is noncon, which was tagged)

Since that.... Yeah, I'm thinking they are maybe looking for roundabout ways of blocking taboo types of erotica without saying they are blocking it. I genuinely don't think there's a way to read his story and not figure out pretty quick that "kitten" is a human woman and not an actual fucking cat. (Lit posted it just fine.)
 
I'm not holding high hopes for D2D.

A friend of mine got a strike on his account for "Not tagging bestiality" in a story between a human woman and alien male. Because the human is referred to as kitten. But there's a woman on the cover and the "kitten" has a purse and photo ID. (It is noncon, which was tagged)

Since that.... Yeah, I'm thinking they are maybe looking for roundabout ways of blocking taboo types of erotica without saying they are blocking it. I genuinely don't think there's a way to read his story and not figure out pretty quick that "kitten" is a human woman and not an actual fucking cat. (Lit posted it just fine.)
My latest one (and the previous one that was affected) are both Incest/Taboo stories, but in both cases it's the cover that's supposedly an issue.
 
I've not had any issues yet but was bummed for my friend. He's been trying to get the strike removed because it's undeserved, but they aren't budging. It's not like it was some 40k story, it was like... I don't know, less than 5k? It wouldn't take long to read and figure out their content checker was wrong.
 
One problem is that D2D is in Oklahoma. I'm a bit south of there, and while my home state and our goofy cousin to the north have always been conservative when it comes to sex, they're heading towards full-on bluenose revanchist. While KOSA didn't pass (thank god), they're still looking for everything they can to shut down smut of all stripes that's spicier than a mass market romance novel. There's another publisher (don't remember their name, I think lovecraft86 mentioned it at one point) that's based out of Texas and is likely to start acting the same before too long.
 
One problem is that D2D is in Oklahoma. I'm a bit south of there, and while my home state and our goofy cousin to the north have always been conservative when it comes to sex, they're heading towards full-on bluenose revanchist. While KOSA didn't pass (thank god), they're still looking for everything they can to shut down smut of all stripes that's spicier than a mass market romance novel. There's another publisher (don't remember their name, I think lovecraft86 mentioned it at one point) that's based out of Texas and is likely to start acting the same before too long.
I thought it was interesting that their headquarters are in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, but I didn't read too much into it. Like I said in my post, I did push the line a bit, but it's starting to feel like they were fishing for an excuse to block yet another taboo erotic title.
 
The stories in the link haven't happened to me (yet), but it looks like Draft2Digital might actually be even worse than what I've described.
 
All my stories have been on Smashwords since they were born. I enjoyed updating them with little fixes. A better phrase, etc. But I'm afraid to submit a new version in Draft2Digital. I'm afraid the story will get rejected for some arbitrary opaque reason and I won't get it back to being published. So I just let them sit. I'm likewise afraid of submitting revisions to Literotica, for fear they will get marked AI. (I don't even use grammar aids.)
 
One problem is that D2D is in Oklahoma. I'm a bit south of there, and while my home state and our goofy cousin to the north have always been conservative when it comes to sex, they're heading towards full-on bluenose revanchist. While KOSA didn't pass (thank god), they're still looking for everything they can to shut down smut of all stripes that's spicier than a mass market romance novel. There's another publisher (don't remember their name, I think lovecraft86 mentioned it at one point) that's based out of Texas and is likely to start acting the same before too long.
Mark Coker controls the SW store, and he is adamant about erotica being protected because it makes bank, and D2D knows it and now their authors have an outlet for erotica that they didn't have before because D2D was very paranoid about erotica. That has nothing to do with politics-although you want to make it that way-but because their account was unfairly blown up back in 2014 over content and it took some time to get it back.

That's one of the main reasons they bought into SW so they could have a platform that they wouldn't have to worry about.

Having said that. I think they are going to watch the tags more closely because they'll be afraid someone may not click the taboo/beastie/NC box and something could slip through to amazon.

And TBH, I think the OP did push it too hard with the cover issue. Rules for covers are twofold. There are ones for just the SW store and a stricter ones if you're letting D2D publish to amazon., B&N. Apple etc. I do think they may just want to have one standard, but if you know the limits, its not hard to follow. I got a personal tutorial from Selena Kitt on this and its not hard to follow.

My account is still just on SW, because I have so much taboo content, I will be in the absolute last wave to migrate and I'm in no hurry.

As for another site I mentioned, I'm not sure about a place in Texas but a European site "Stealth/Street Lib" is getting a bit puritan in its content.

There's going to be growing pains with D2D, but they are not out to get rid of erotica.

If it makes anyone feel better, I've been publishing there since 2011 and over the years have become friendly with Mark Coker, and brought my/our concerns to him early on in the D2D merge and he assures me he is personally taking care of erotica and it will not be touched. In one of his last e-mails with me I mentioned how Amazon is absolutely suppressing erotica at an unprecedented level, and his comment was "If they and other sites want to push fans of erotica to Smashwords and D2D we will be happy to have them."

So don't panic people.
 
Mark Coker controls the SW store, and he is adamant about erotica being protected because it makes bank, and D2D knows it and now their authors have an outlet for erotica that they didn't have before because D2D was very paranoid about erotica. That has nothing to do with politics-although you want to make it that way-but because their account was unfairly blown up back in 2014 over content and it took some time to get it back.

That's one of the main reasons they bought into SW so they could have a platform that they wouldn't have to worry about.

Having said that. I think they are going to watch the tags more closely because they'll be afraid someone may not click the taboo/beastie/NC box and something could slip through to amazon.

And TBH, I think the OP did push it too hard with the cover issue. Rules for covers are twofold. There are ones for just the SW store and a stricter ones if you're letting D2D publish to amazon., B&N. Apple etc. I do think they may just want to have one standard, but if you know the limits, its not hard to follow. I got a personal tutorial from Selena Kitt on this and its not hard to follow.

My account is still just on SW, because I have so much taboo content, I will be in the absolute last wave to migrate and I'm in no hurry.

As for another site I mentioned, I'm not sure about a place in Texas but a European site "Stealth/Street Lib" is getting a bit puritan in its content.

There's going to be growing pains with D2D, but they are not out to get rid of erotica.

If it makes anyone feel better, I've been publishing there since 2011 and over the years have become friendly with Mark Coker, and brought my/our concerns to him early on in the D2D merge and he assures me he is personally taking care of erotica and it will not be touched. In one of his last e-mails with me I mentioned how Amazon is absolutely suppressing erotica at an unprecedented level, and his comment was "If they and other sites want to push fans of erotica to Smashwords and D2D we will be happy to have them."

So don't panic people.
Fair enough. You know that whole ecosystem better than I do. I hope you’re right; shit’s getting real weird down this way.
 
And TBH, I think the OP did push it too hard with the cover issue. Rules for covers are twofold. There are ones for just the SW store and a stricter ones if you're letting D2D publish to amazon., B&N. Apple etc. I do think they may just want to have one standard, but if you know the limits, its not hard to follow. I got a personal tutorial from Selena Kitt on this and its not hard to follow.
I'm happy to admit that the first draft of the cover was a bit too much, but since it's for a taboo erotic story, it's only Smashwords's cover rules that should matter. I have a separate KDP account and know better than to upload taboo content there.

Also, even after submitting my new compliant cover, the ebook was delisted yet again from Smashwords, and this time I didn't get the courtesy of an email notification from D2D. When I look at the book view page, Smashwords is under the "blocked" list, and the issues they list don't include an "inappropriate cover", instead the issues listed are "incest/pseudo-incest" and "erotica" even though those are two categories Smashwords allows.

No other retailers are listed (nor should they be), so unless bare arms, bare shoulders, and a pregnant belly are now considered inappropriate, it's hard to escape the impression that D2D is screwing over this ebook for a single mistake and refusing to honor good-faith attempts to fix the issue.
There's going to be growing pains with D2D, but they are not out to get rid of erotica.
I sure hope that's the case, because their attitude throughout my experience with this issue reminds me of Amazon's kafkaesque content review process.
 
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I'm happy to admit that the first draft of the cover was a bit too much, but since it's for a taboo erotic story, it's only Smashwords's cover rules that should matter. I have a separate KDP account and no better than to upload taboo content there.

Also, even after submitting my new compliant cover, the ebook was delisted yet again from Smashwords, and this time I didn't get the courtesy of an email notification from D2D. When I look at the book view page, Smashwords is under the "blocked" list, and the issues they list don't include an "inappropriate cover", instead the issues listed are "incest/pseudo-incest" and "erotica" even though those are two categories Smashwords allows.

No other retailers are listed (nor should they be), so unless bare arms, bare shoulders, and a pregnant belly are now considered inappropriate, it's hard to escape the impression that D2D is screwing over this ebook for a single mistake and refusing to honor good-faith attempts to fix the issue.

I sure hope that's the case, because their attitude throughout my experience with this issue reminds me of Amazon's kafkaesque content review process.
Like I said, I am one of the last who will migrate over. When I do, my hope is its not some way to get rid of erotica which would make no sense because they are a large part of SW's income. But...if for whatever reason I run into some type of issue as in I know SW like the back of my hand, and if all of a sudden my books start getting kicked back? My plan will be to go directly to Mark and say "Okay, you said this, but look at this?" and see what the response is.

Ironically Amazon has the same 'rules' as Lit. Hey, your rape story got booted, but don't complain about the five hundred stories that are worse, we do what we want.

Honestly, I'm considering mentioning your post to him-without your pen name of course-and saying "People are beginning to see a lot of this and it all seems to revolve around erotica, what's up" and seeing the response. But on the other hand, I try to keep my e-mails to him infrequent as I don't want to abuse the privilege of direct contact with him, so I may wait. But if more people start seeing this, or when I finally migrate if I have an issue, I'll do it.
 
I have published 6 erotica books through D2D since summer of 2023 without any problems, but my books don't have any taboo subject matter either. So, take that with a grain of salt. And the covers don't push the limit either. A woman in a bikini hugging a man in swim trunks was probably the "worst." The "worst" things in the stories are bondage, blindfolds and spanking. There's a few 3-somes as well.
 
This issue sounds eerily familiar. I'm still at Smashwords and I fear that their customer support is the same as for D2D.
I've recently started to update the backmatter of all my titles. It's gone smoothly on all sites except Smashwords - and they used to the easiest ones to deal with. Particularly compared to Amazon, (yikes).

Anyway, all my books were previously accepted for premium delivery, but after updating the backmatter, I've received complaints about:
- the cover (too much naked skin)
- dubcon content in titles that I've only listed under "Other titles by the same author" - so no content, just mentioning the titles
- they even claim that some of my titles includes pseudo incest, which it doesn't
- and in all cases they want me to tick off both dubcon and incest for a book that is more vanilla than anything else.

I'm just....furious. What the hell happened to Smashwords?

To solve it, I've had to change a cover and removed all the books in my backmatter containing anything else than vanilla sex. To be honest: I can't recommend anyone to update anything on Smashwords right now! I've spent several weeks with this stupid ping-pong game so I'm keeping the rest of my backmatter just the way it is. I feel like I've already enough time on something that should have been a non-issue.

And I can't even imagine how tricky it will be once they decide to migrate my accounts to D2D. I'm following lovecraft68 on this one: I won't move until I have to.
 
I can only say this is disappointing as I have just joined D2D and upped my first book. It's not boding well just as I began to have some hope. So... if smashwords is getting awkward, and I have to wonder from the East side of the pond is it due to your election year, are there any other options?
 
I can only say this is disappointing as I have just joined D2D and upped my first book. It's not boding well just as I began to have some hope. So... if smashwords is getting awkward, and I have to wonder from the East side of the pond is it due to your election year, are there any other options?
Hi. I wrote a follow-up which you might want to read.
 
Just discovered the major selling book on the ones I have has been discontinued because there is some flaw in the Table of Contents. Did they bother emailing me? NO. It's been off sale for at least 3 weeks. Thanks for the warning. Otherwise I never would have looked as they haven't been that strong a retailer for me.
 
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