IR and Reality

[lc69hunter]

IR is not one of the genres that interest me a lot. I mean, the thought watching or reading about of a white woman/wife enjoying on her knees sucking a big black cock or being fucked by one is erotic as hell, the color contrast, and the taboo aspect all part of it.

It is the porn derived aspect of after that drives me crazy. She loses her shit and her mind, disrespecting the man she loves and allowing her black lover to do the same, and many times cutting him off, sometimes because being ordered to by her black lover. That is rarely the reality, though the readers of that genre love that. Most of the IR stuff I have read on amazon Kindle also caters to that reader. ( I read a shitload in a number of genres on Amazon kindle.)

My second wife (God I miss her. She was the love of my life) once or twice a year would organize a girls weekend away for several of her close friends, specifically to find some black cock. I knew she liked it, because we had swapped with a black couple several times when we were at Camp Pendleton. I knew what they were after, because we had no secrets, but the other husbands had no clue. The other wives knew that I knew, and just relied on my discretion. In fact, they would sit around in our den, telling stories on each other and laughing, so I got more BBC stories live than you would ever believe. Every one of those wives still loved and respected their husbands afterward, and probably gave them better loving because of it. I considered it just a part of their overall sexuality and not a fetish.

Like I said, this is not my genre, but I am attempting to write an IR that reflects that reality. I would like one of you that writes in that genre to edit it for me. If it goes over well, I might continue to write more in that genre using several plots that I have read on Kindle, just changing the ending/outcome. If one or two of you would volunteer, I would appreciate it.

 

[TheRedChamber]

I've written a few pieces in the genre, although not always black on white and sometimes subverting in the way you mention. If you don't get anyone else more into 'traditional' IR I can help out.

In fairness, humiliation is common but not always present. The permutations are probably much the same as LW...
- Husband discovers wife is having an affair
- Wife asks to take a lover.
- Husband begs wife to take a lover.
- Story starts with cuckolding dynamic in place.
And then unlike LW
- Story only contains single white female.

Some of those are more likely to have humiliation than others but you can write 'respectful' versions of each.

Then you have all the other IR permutations (i.e white male, black female - white male, Asian female etc). I've been reading few stories with Asian cuck, Asian wife/gf, White bull recently and they are amusing for how much the tropes from WWB copy across but just hit differently (and seem more ridiculous) because of my own background.

 

[lc69hunter]

I've written a few pieces in the genre, although not always black on white and sometimes subverting in the way you mention. If you don't get anyone else more into 'traditional' IR I can help out.

In fairness, humiliation is common but not always present. The permutations are probably much the same as LW...
- Husband discovers wife is having an affair
- Wife asks to take a lover.
- Husband begs wife to take a lover.
- Story starts with cuckolding dynamic in place.
And then unlike LW
- Story only contains single white female.

Some of those are more likely to have humiliation than others but you can write 'respectful' versions of each.

Then you have all the other IR permutations (i.e white male, black female - white male, Asian female etc). I've been reading few stories with Asian cuck, Asian wife/gf, White bull recently and they are amusing for how much the tropes from WWB copy across but just hit differently (and seem more ridiculous) because of my own background.

When we were swapping, I found his wife (also black) tasted much tangier than any white woman I had ever eaten, and she was also a bit of a pain slut. I bit and chewed on her nipples big time and she introduced me to pussy spanking. But she and I both laughed at how my wife went crazy on her husband.

By the way, I fucking hate humiliation stories of any genre. It rates an automatic 1 or 2 from me.

 

[TheRedChamber]

I don't remember ever reading a black couple swap with white couple story on here. They must exist, but I can't recall one.

The thing with humiliation is that it's usually clear that the writer, whatever the PoV, is actually the cuck and gets off on the humiliation. There's at least one writer here who I'm pretty sure is using writing therapy for a catastrophic event in their past, but most just like humiliation.

 

[lc69hunter]

I don't remember ever reading a black couple swap with white couple story on here. They must exist, but I can't recall one.

The thing with humiliation is that it's usually clear that the writer, whatever the PoV, is actually the cuck and gets off on the humiliation. There's at least one writer here who I'm pretty sure is using writing therapy for a catastrophic event in their past, but most just like humiliation.

Shit, I think you are right. I also have never seen that story line either. We hooked up with them four or five times. Maybe I ought to start with a couple of chapters on this relationship. BTW, I have just checked out your story list. I will need to read some of them.

 

[GlennJenko]

I'm in a similar boat to you, OP. I've written now two black man/(married) white woman stories, with the third part in the final stages and I agree. The "norm" template of a white woman getting a sight of a black cock and instantly becoming a ravenous beast who's prepared to do all manner of awful shit to her husband just doesn't interest me. And while I won't say my stories are 100% realistic (it's a fantasy, after all), I did try and rationalise why the wife is acting the way she is and that the humiliation aspect on her or her lover's part really aren't part of it. There's stories where that kind of thing does work, but not here.

I'd be happy to read through one of your stories, though, given I wish I'd have asked more about it all before getting into lit writing myself (not that I regret what I've written).

 

[Priscilla_June]

Somehow reading IR I kept thinking of International Relations. Lit is getting really high brow.

 

[Lifestyle66]

IR is not one of the genres that interest me a lot. I mean, the thought watching or reading about of a white woman/wife enjoying on her knees sucking a big black cock or being fucked by one is erotic as hell, the color contrast, and the taboo aspect all part of it.

It is the porn derived aspect of after that drives me crazy. She loses her shit and her mind, disrespecting the man she loves and allowing her black lover to do the same, and many times cutting him off, sometimes because being ordered to by her black lover. That is rarely the reality, though the readers of that genre love that. Most of the IR stuff I have read on amazon Kindle also caters to that reader. ( I read a shitload in a number of genres on Amazon kindle.)

My second wife (God I miss her. She was the love of my life) once or twice a year would organize a girls weekend away for several of her close friends, specifically to find some black cock. I knew she liked it, because we had swapped with a black couple several times when we were at Camp Pendleton. I knew what they were after, because we had no secrets, but the other husbands had no clue. The other wives knew that I knew, and just relied on my discretion. In fact, they would sit around in our den, telling stories on each other and laughing, so I got more BBC stories live than you would ever believe. Every one of those wives still loved and respected their husbands afterward, and probably gave them better loving because of it. I considered it just a part of their overall sexuality and not a fetish.

Like I said, this is not my genre, but I am attempting to write an IR that reflects that reality. I would like one of you that writes in that genre to edit it for me. If it goes over well, I might continue to write more in that genre using several plots that I have read on Kindle, just changing the ending/outcome. If one or two of you would volunteer, I would appreciate it.

I haven't written an IR story, because I avoid the whole issue of racism.

It's sex, and it's fun.

In at least two of my stories, I alluded to the wife's target being Black. But I just have her referring to his "dark skin" or that her Black co-worker mentioned her husband's size and she wants to feel it (and she says that in front of her own swinger husband who then arranges it.)

IMO, if you're writing for the IR category, then it's not just about fun sex. It needs to be about the triggers which will deliberately excite or offend some of the audience.

But I would caution against using the work "Black" or "White" too often. I consider such stories which refer to "Black" in every sentence (or in one case several times in EVERY paragraph) as just being racist.

So, is the story going to be about an attraction to a lover who happens to be a different race? Or is it about humiliating the spouse using a lover of a different race?

 

[Sarahwithlove]

We need to stop labeling people as racist just for talking about race. We also need to stop being so sensitive about everything.

 

[Bramblethorn]

We need to stop labeling people as racist just for talking about race. We also need to stop being so sensitive about everything.

Fortunately, nobody was calling people "racist" just for talking about race.