Neither did the East Prussians.
Resettle 2 million Palestinians here in the U.S.
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Volksdeutsche not only served in the German army, and even the Waffen-SS, but took part in the Holocaust! Read the book Ordinary Men by Christopher Browning.
Yes, of course the Germans found recruits and draftees among the Volksdeutsche. But the majority were just civilians. They did nothing to deserve being driven out of their homes after the war. Same with the Pals.
Perhaps. On the other hand, demanding that the people who were viciously attacked (whether on 22 June 1941 or on 7 October 2023) take on the task of sorting through who were "more deserving" and who were "less deserving" seems rather insulting, isn't it?
I mean, look at all the cheering crowds in Gaza as emaciated Jewish hostages are brought out of the caves (where Hamas could have sheltered women and children, but didn't) and paraded through cheering, jeering crowds of Egyptian moslems.
"Expel them all!" is not an acceptable answer.
We both know Trump has caused and will cause more damage in the world.
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HOW!!! FFS; please explain to all how Trump has caused or is going to cause more damage in the world. Don't give me the tariffs bullshit, that's all reactionary.
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He hasn't a clue. It comes in here and make all encompassing statements with no real supporting evidence, just opinion. It reminds me of a precocious 4 yr, old.
Consider the Jews who lived in Gaza for thousands of years. It was in an attempt to secure a lasting peace that all of those Jews were removed. This seemed quite "acceptable" to the Moslems, didn't it?
Oh, wait, it wasn't. They don't think any "lasting peace" short of having ALL the Jews give up ALL their land is "acceptable"!
"Wiped off the map" is, I believe, how the Iranian representatives of the "religion of peace" put it.
Egypt lost a chunk of land called the "Gaza Strip" and the Egyptian citizens there will be moved out because they won't stop firing rockets at their neighbors and kidnapping them and holding them hostage. Plenty of Jews throughout the Middle East left their homes in various Moslem-ruled countries over the past few decades, it being rather dangerous to be perpetual scapegoats of various imams and kings and generalissimos and presidents-for-life.
All reminiscent of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, with the Greek Christians leaving Turkish territory and the Turkish Moslems leaving Greek territory.
The tariffs are a problem, of course, especially considering how the USA has grown so rich in the post WWII era as worldwide trade grew so much when trade barriers were lowered. Does the USA really want to reverse that? But there is just so much else, from the firing of nuclear watchdogs to the hints that the Ukraine will be sold out, to the discontinuing of programs to fight disease in other countries (Remember the COVID pandemic? It didn't start in the USA, but it killed a lot of people there!) to the weird behaviour towards Canada, Mexico, the Middle East, NATO etc etc etc
Israeli Communications Minister Shlomo Karhi calls for "forced deportation plan" to remove Palestinians from Gaza Strip.
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I’ll answer, but how much time do you have cos the list is long. But… for sake of sparing time, my one quick answer to your question is: Tariffs.
For one thing, he's going to be directly responsible for a lot of deaths in Ukraine!
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If we weren't 36 trillion in debt I'd agree with you. Tons of spending went into providing a protective umbrella over Europe. The gravy train is over. We helped rebuild Europe after WWII. We also pretty much financed NATO for years. Why should we allow German cars into the US with minimal tariffs and yet our autos are tariffed at 10%
Tariffs are both reactionary, reciprocal and will be adjusted accordingly.
How is he going to be directly responsible for Ukraine deaths??? He wants to bring an end to the war and save lives. He pushing for Europeans to purchase more weapons systems for Ukraine's defense and absorbing more of the cost. He's talking to Putin to set a foundation for future talks. He doesn't want Europeans and Zelensky there for now, too many cooks could spoil the brew. No agreements or treaties will be agreed upon till the Zelensky and the Europeans have their say. Have to start somewhere. And yes Putin is a bad guy, we know that and he also has 5000+ ,nuclear warheads, so whether we like it or not we have to deal with him. If Putin is obstinate and disagreeable the weapons will flow including long range missiles and a whole host of modern equipment, Putin will suffer extreme sanctions. Providing LNG to Europe will hurt Russia's economy.
Ukraine doesn't have the population to win a war of attrition. It needs to end.
On the other hand, after the Reagan Revolution the USA had balanced budgets and even surpluses and had begun to pay down the debt. It was the fault of the flaky baby-boomer politicians following him that you're in such straits. And by the way, the USA's debt load, as a ratio to GDP, is comparable to other industrialized nations, and smaller than many.
Europe may not have paid its way in defence, but the USA's contribution wasn't what ballooned the debt, it was reckless social spending and letting the rich get away with avoiding taxation.
Tariffs will cause no end of problems. If you stick it to the Mexicans the only people who will benefit will be the Chinese who will take advantage of being lower-cost producers. If you have to stick people with tariffs, stick the Chinese!
As for Ukraine, consider that the Afghans, with a smaller population and no manufacturing base to speak of, whipped the Russians (not to mention the USA, and the British Raj, too, back in the day!) The Ukrainians, while they haven't won, have absolutely humiliated the Russians! Putin's mercenaries turned on him and marched on Moscow! Putin had to beg North Korea for soldiers and buy weapons from Iran! Casualties of killed or so seriously injured soldiers could not return to duty estimates from 500,000 to a million!
As for nuclear warheads, remember during the Vietnam War the USA had enough nuclear weapons to sterilize the planet. But still the helicopters were taking refugees from the embassy roof . . .
He's going to demand peace on terms Ukraine will never accept, and he might end military aid when it doesn't.
He's also going to be responsible for more carnage in Gaza than Hamas or Israel! He wants to evacuate the whole population!
Most of which you owe to Americans.
https://www.pgpf.org/article/the-fe...orrowed-trillions-but-who-owns-all-that-debt/
Mostly rich Americans who hold bonds and T-bills.
But if you read here,most MAGA "think"debt is owed to foreigners. Mainly the Chinese,but that isn't the case. The US debt is a function of the budget choices, and right now the US is in noway close to being unable to pay it off.
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