Telling lies. It is what he does.

[bodysong]

What's it all about, Trumpy ?

Let us compare the real thing, with Trump's propaganda-

https://crooksandliars.com/2019/10/trump-appears-have-staged-situation-room

Praising Himself for ISIS Raid, Trump Undermines His Own Victory

On the golf course, no one can hear you scream, except for Trump Loyalists
and employees that sign Non- Disclosure Agreements


The raid, as reported, took place at 3:30PM Washington time.
The photo, as shown in the camera IPTC data, was taken at “17:05:24”

— Pete Souza (@PeteSouza) October 27, 2019

(5 o'clock is the time that as given by His Trumpy Orangeness)

Sunday afternoon, Souza again clarified it's "definitely possible the
photo was taken during the raid," noting that Trump's own timeframe
of "around 5 p.m." was relatively vague.

(Trumpypants had to change into his suit for the photo op plus hair)

Popular on Twitter
Pete Souza ✓
Twitter › PeteSouza

Piper Perabo ✓
Twitter › PiperPerabo

@PeteSouza also there are a lot of cables and wires on the table, some not
connected to anything. Is this normal in the Situation Room? Seems odd.

2 hours ago

https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/cri...wing-trump-watching-baghdadi-raid-was-staged/

Piper Perabo ✓
Twitter › PiperPerabo

Acclaimed American poet Sylvia Plath born on this day .
♥
8 hours ago

Pelosi: Russians Were Notified of al-Baghdadi Raid in Advance,
‘But Not Top Congressional Leadership’

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is criticizing the White House
for failing to notify congressional leaders before the U.S. raid
in Syria that President Donald Trump says killed the leader
of the Islamic State group.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...3bf418-f8ce-11e9-8190-6be4deb56e01_story.html

She notes that the U.S. let Russia know the raid was in the works.

Trump arrived at his private property in Sterling, Virginia
on Sunday morning. The presidential motorcade departed
at 3:33 p.m. and Trump arrived at the White House’s North
Portico entrance at 4:18 p.m.

https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject-in-town-pool-report-3-lid-1839382639

The death of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the Islamic State leader, happened
largely in spite of President Trump’s actions, not because of them,
according to military, intelligence and counterterrorism officials

—@nytpolitics

NYT Politics ✓
Twitter › nytpolitics

The death of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the Islamic State leader,
happened largely in spite of President Trump’s actions,
not because of them, according to military, intelligence
and counterterrorism officials

2 hours ago

Politics - The New York Times


David Waldman-1, of Yorktown LLC™
Twitter › KagroX

Asked repeatedly why Trump didn’t notify Congressional leadership,
Pence says Trump’s sole focus for days was the raid’s success.
Which is why he went to a party at Camp David and played
golf for four hours.

3 hours ago

Daniel Dale ✓
Twitter › ddale8

Trump has made up so many stories about people supposedly crying
that I’d want good corroboration before accepting this claim about
Baghdadi.

7 hours ago

 

[bodysong]

Kyle Griffin ✓
Twitter › kylegriffin1

Schumer statement on al-Baghdadi ends:
"New Yorkers know all too well the destruction a small group
of terrorists thousands of miles overseas can cause from so far
away. I look forward to receiving a briefing about this raid and
the plan to deal with the escaped ISIS prisoners."

4 hours ago

Chairman Schiff: If the Justice Department
"is doing a criminal investigation of people who properly looked
into Russian interference ... it means that Bill Barr, on the president's
behalf, is weaponizing the Justice Department to go after
president's enemies."

via ABC

5 hours ago

Media Tweets by Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) | Twitter
https://twitter.com › kylegriffin1 › media

 

[magicalmoments]

Trump himself said that the president can take no credit for taking out an international terrorist. The credit lies exclusively with the military who carried out the raid.

 

[KeithD]

Trump himself said that the president can take no credit for taking out an international terrorist. The credit lies exclusively with the military who carried out the raid.

But he said that when he wasn't president. All of that has changed, of course.

 

[magicalmoments]

But he said that when he wasn't president. All of that has changed, of course.

He'll deny he ever said it.
Tell it like he was sitting on a stack of bibles.
I'm waiting to see his reaction to being booed at the baseball game, probably ignore that it happened, it was all cheering to him.

 

[YDB95]

I'm waiting to see his reaction to being booed at the baseball game, probably ignore that it happened, it was all cheering to him.

This time next week, the usual suspects will be convinced they were cheering for him all right!

 

[bodysong]

October 28, 2019

Doubts over Donald Trump's dramatic account of Baghdadi raid

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/28/doubts-over-trump-dramatic-account-baghdadi-raid

October 27, 2019

Trump falsely claims his 2000 book demanded the killing of Osama bin Laden

Facts First:

Trump's January 2000 book, "The America We Deserve," mentioned
bin Laden once, but it did not call for bin Laden to be killed or warn
that he would perpetrate a major attack if he were not killed. In a
separate section, the book said the US was in danger of a major terrorist
attack that would make the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center
look minor in comparison -- but it did not predict that bin Laden or
al Qaeda would be the perpetrator of this attack. There is also no basis
for Trump's claim that bin Laden was unknown to everyone else at the time.
Bin Laden was a well-known figure in 2000, though he had not achieved
the prominence he would gain with the attacks of 2001; the FBI had
added him to its Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list in 1999.

"One day we're told that a shadowy figure with no fixed address named
Osama bin-Laden is public enemy number one, and U.S. jetfighters lay
waste to his camp in Afghanistan. He escapes back under some rock,
and a few news cycles later it's on to a new enemy and new crisis."

That was all -- a passing reference.

Sunday was not the first time Trump had made false claims about what
he said about bin Laden in the 2000 book. He made similar comments
during his presidential campaign, once in an appearance on conspiracy
theorist Alex Jones' show.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/27/poli...d-trump-osama-bin-laden-book-claim/index.html

 

[bodysong]

Another "Sir Story"

REPORTER:
Just to followup, did your Syria pullout --
did that generate the intelligence that led to this operation?

TRUMP: No. We were looking at this -- look, as I said, Steve, I’ve been
looking at this -- I’m here almost three years. I’ve been looking at this
for three years. They’d come in, sir, we have somebody under --
I said I don’t want somebody, I want al-Baghdadi. That’s the one I want.
They’d say well, we have somebody else. I said, that’s great, fine, take
them out, but I want al-Baghdadi. That’s who I want. I don’t want other
people. And then I also wanted Hamza bin Laden, because he’s a young
man, around 30, looks just like his father, tall, very handsome, and he
was talking bad things just like his father. You know, if you read my book --
there’s a book just before the World Trade Center came down -- and I don’t
get any credit for this, but that’s OK, I never do.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...erence-abu-bakr-al-baghdadis-death-annotated/

Why tell lies about the Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi operations ?

 

[KeithD]

Another "Sir Story"

REPORTER:
Just to followup, did your Syria pullout --
did that generate the intelligence that led to this operation?

TRUMP: No. We were looking at this -- look, as I said, Steve, I’ve been
looking at this -- I’m here almost three years. I’ve been looking at this
for three years. They’d come in, sir, we have somebody under --
I said I don’t want somebody, I want al-Baghdadi. That’s the one I want.
They’d say well, we have somebody else. I said, that’s great, fine, take
them out, but I want al-Baghdadi. That’s who I want. I don’t want other
people. And then I also wanted Hamza bin Laden, because he’s a young
man, around 30, looks just like his father, tall, very handsome, and he
was talking bad things just like his father. You know, if you read my book --
there’s a book just before the World Trade Center came down -- and I don’t
get any credit for this, but that’s OK, I never do.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...erence-abu-bakr-al-baghdadis-death-annotated/

Why tell lies about the Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi operations ?

He lied about what was in the book he referenced too. He can't help himself. And the Trumpettes on the board are still defending him.

 

[someoneyouknow]

[Spamming, bumping multiple threads in order to flood the forum, posting same content to multiple locations, or screen-stretching to disrupt the forum is prohibited per our forum guidelines.] - Last Warning Already Given

 

[bodysong]

uh-oh

It appears Trump Loyalists on the GB have become upset with an
enlightened and educated voter. They seem to have cried "wolf,"
again.

(Fucking crybaby hypocrites.)

 

[bodysong]

Trump repeats his claim that Baghdadi spent his final moments "trembling" and "crying"

The 'Whimpering' Terrorist Only Trump Seems to Have Heard

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/01/us/politics/trump-isis-leader-baghdadi.html

President Trump offered a vivid account of the ISIS leader
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi “crying and screaming” in the final
minutes before his death.

Mr Trump seems to have made up the scene of a whimpering terrorist

That Mr. Trump seems to have made up the scene of a whimpering terrorist
may be shocking on one level yet not all that surprising

from a president who over time has made a behavior of inventing individuals
who don’t exist and occasions that didn’t occur.

(The journalists do not seem to be making any headway on
confirming Trump's claims. Still many "I dunno" answers.
The legitimate leaders responsible, do not want to lie for
Trump ?)

Daniel Dale ✓
Twitter › ddale8

Trump is endlessly lying to his supporters about policy and politics.
The repeat lie about CNN‘s camera has been especially wild to me
since before I worked here: he’s lying to them about something he
claims to be personally seeing at that very moment.

November 2, 2019
CNN

6 hours ago

The president pointed to the back of the room and told supporters in
the same room that he had just seen something happen, though it did
not happen.

November 2, 2019
CNN

6 hours ago

 

[magicalmoments]

Make no mistake, all politicians lie. At the very least the lie by omission and/or evasion.

Trump has discovered, as hitler and Mussolini did before him, that you get as good results, if not better, by simply lying and repeating the lie continuously. He's found that lying by omission and evasion are energy wasters when enough of the electorate will accept his lies at face value.

 

[bodysong]

Another "Sir Story"-

But this one did not originate from Trump's blathering mouth.

(Alexandra Petri is very creative.)

So I said, should I leave? And the people cried.

A man came up to me on the street, he said,
“Sir, you can’t leave, you can’t leave New York!” And he was crying.
He said, “It’s going to be carnage if you leave, sir, it’s going to be bloody,
painful carnage.” And I said, “I know, believe me, it’s going to be bad,
but I have to do it! What can I say? They don’t tax you so good here in
New York City. They don’t treat you very nice.” I said, “Maybe treat me
nice, and I will stay.” But they didn’t treat me nice, and now I have to go.

Opinion

‘Why I’m Leaving New York,’ by Donald Trump
Did the city change, or did I, or did the tax rate?

Nov 1, 2019

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...rk-by-donald-trump/?wpisrc=nl_opinions&wpmm=1

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Make no mistake, all politicians lie. At the very least the lie by omission and/or evasion.

Trump has discovered, as hitler and Mussolini did before him, that you get as good results, if not better, by simply lying and repeating the lie continuously. He's found that lying by omission and evasion are energy wasters when enough of the electorate will accept his lies at face value.

And who said "I love the uneducated"

chuckles

 

[bodysong]

Trump has stated publicly that he doesn't know (Lev) Parnas and (Igor) Fruman.

November 15, 2019
update-
November 16, 2019

White House's annual Hanukkah party last year

At one point during the party that night, Parnas and Fruman slipped out
of a large reception room packed with hundreds of Trump donors to have
a private meeting with the President and Giuliani, according to two
acquaintances in whom Parnas confided right after the meeting.

Parnas said that "the big guy," as he sometimes referred to the President
in conversation, talked about tasking him and Fruman with what Parnas
described as "a secret mission" to pressure the Ukrainian government
to investigate Joe Biden and his son Hunter.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/15/politics/parnas-trump-special-mission-ukraine/index.html

Washington (CNN)

"President Donald Trump is dishonest about a whole lot of things.
But he is rarely as comprehensively dishonest as he has been about
his dealings with Ukraine and the impeachment inquiry they have
triggered." - Daniel Dale, CNN

Brief fact checks of 45 separate false claims Trump has made
on the subject of Ukraine or impeachment.

The phone call with Zelensky (8 lies)

The whistleblower (6 lies)

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (8 lies)

The impeachment process (8 lies)

The Bidens (8 lies)

31. Joe Biden, along with his son Hunter Biden, has "ripped off
at least two countries for millions of dollars."
(There is no evidence Joe Biden has profited from his son's
business dealings abroad.)

32. A video of Joe Biden speaking in 2018 about his past dealings
with Ukraine is evidence of "corruption." (The tape does not show
corruption. It shows Biden talking about his effort, in accordance
with the policy of the US and its allies, to pressure Ukraine into
firing a prosecutor widely considered unwilling to fight corruption.)

33. The person Trump had identified as a "Ukraine gas exec" was Devon
Archer, another American board member at Burisma and a longtime
business associate of Hunter Biden.)

34. That golf photo contradicts Joe Biden's claim to have "never met the gentleman."
(Joe Biden had not claimed to have never met Devon Archer.)

35. Hunter Biden was under investigation by the Ukrainian prosecutor
who Joe Biden pressured Ukraine to fire. (There is no public evidence
that Hunter Biden was ever himself under investigation. The prosecutor's
former deputy has said that the actual investigation, into the owner of Burisma,
was dormant at the time of Joe Biden's pressure.)

36.
37.
38.

Dealings with Ukraine (5 lies)

Polls (2 lies)

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/16/poli...dishonesty-ukraine-and-impeachment/index.html

 

[bodysong]

- John Wagner
- Brittany Shammas

November 18, 2019

President Trump said Monday that he will “strongly consider” testifying

in writing

as part of the impeachment inquiry at the outset of a week in which
eight current and former officials are scheduled to publicly testify
about his controversial actions regarding Ukraine.

In morning tweets, Trump said he might take up House Speaker Nancy Pelosi
(D-Calif.) on a suggestion she made over the weekend. Trump also claimed
that the rules of the inquiry had been “rigged” by Pelosi and House Intelligence
Committee Chairman Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ba93b4-09f1-11ea-8397-a955cd542d00_story.html


(Presiderp) suggested Monday he might be willing to offer written testimony
in the House impeachment inquiry over whether he pressured Ukraine’s
president to investigate Joe Biden and his son while withholding aid
to the country.

In a pair of tweets, Trump says he will “strongly consider” an offer
by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to testify before the House
impeachment panel.

Trump tweeted -

“She also said I could do it in writing.
Even though I did nothing wrong, and
don’t like giving credibility to this
No Due Process Hoax, I like the idea
& will, in order to get Congress focused
again, strongly consider it!”

....that I testify about the phony Impeachment Witch Hunt.
She also said I could do it in writing. Even though I did nothing
wrong, and don’t like giving credibility to this
No Due Process Hoax, I like the idea & will,
in order to get Congress focused again, strongly consider it!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 18, 2019

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/po...hment-probe/SOLMmsLHM3S00G82jMsMAJ/story.html

bodysong comment- I am waiting for the other Presiderp shoe to drop -
"I never said this! Fake news! Librul media are liars!

(Is Presiderp attempting to avoid taking the oath ? Avoiding the possibility
of commiting perjury ?)

 

[magicalmoments]

Written answers, given under oath, are subject to the same rules of perjury as answers given verbally.
Thing is, with trump they won't be his answers, they'll be his lawyers. Trump couldn't lie straight in a bed!

 

[sharingfantasies]

Not a big deal to him. He did it for the Mueller investigation and Mueller said most of it was "generally incorrect". He lies whether speaking or writing. His truth is whatever he makes up. So, I am sure if he took a lie detector test he could pass with ease.

 

[bodysong]

What has Trump done, for most of his life ?

Lie!

The second thing that Trump has done for most of his life
is to corrupt and compromise people.

(He has since moved on to corrupting and compromising governments.)

The third thing that he has consistently done is to extort.

Trump’s dishonesty is so comprehensive that the revelation he lied
about knowing Parnas and Fruman — the sort of lie that would badly
damage a normal president — barely registers.

Trump recruited a pair of sleazeballs with ties to the Russian mafia
to communicate with the Ukrainian government on his behalf.

Lurking in the shadows of the scandal is an ulterior motive:
Giuliani, Parnas, and Fruman were extorting Ukraine
in the traditional, moneymaking way also.

If Parnas, Fruman, and Giuliani undertook a scheme to enrich themselves
without Trump’s permission, they were taking a huge risk.

The other possibility is that Trump authorized them to use his name as leverage
to demand natural-gas contracts from the country they were also pressuring for
political favors. Another piece of support for the latter theory is that
Energy Secretary Rick Perry was also pushing to get his cronies
a piece of the natural-gas business in Ukraine.

If there’s any way the Ukraine scandal can get materially worse,
it would be Trump directing a scheme to not only gain a political
advantage but to enrich his partners, or even himself.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/11/trump-parnas-fruman-giuliani-ukraine-scandal-impeachment.html

An American energy consultant who operates in Ukraine, Dale Perry,
described the efforts to oust Naftogaz's CEO, Andriy Kobolyev, who is
known for his anti-corruption reforms at the company. At an energy
conference in Houston last March, Parnas and Fruman asked a senior
Naftogaz executive Andrew Favorov if he would go along with their plan
to oust the company's current CEO and become its head, according to Perry,
who is Favorov's former business partner.

"(Parnas and Fruman) basically just flat out said to him, hey, to do the deals
we want to do, we were not able to get through to your CEO, and we think
that the business needs a new CEO," Perry told CNN. Parnas and Fruman
also told Favorov that Trump would soon replace the then-US ambassador
(Marie Yovanovitch) to Ukraine, and that an ambassador more amenable
to their energy-business interest would be appointed, according to Perry.
"What they said was, not that we can, but they are removing her, and that
has already been agreed at the highest level of the US government," Perry
said.

Marie Yovanovitch explained how her removal as ambassador was the
top priority of a former Ukrainian prosecutor general known for
corrupt practices, Yuri Lutsenko, who happened to be in position
to do a political favor for Trump.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/15/trump-impeachment-inquiry-marie-yovanovitch

Perry believes Parnas and Fruman, who have no prior experience in the gas
business, may have had assistance from Ukranian oligarch Dmitri Firtash,
who made his fortune being the intermediary between Naftogaz and Gazprom,
Russia's state-owned energy corporation- Firtash has been fighting extradition
into the United States since he was indicted on bribery charges in 2013.

Two sources familiar with the matter told CNN that Perry's description
of the meeting between Parnas, Fruman and Favorov was accurate.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/18/politics/rudy-giuliani-naftogaz-ukraine-parnas-fruman/index.html

bodysong comment-

Does Trump hate Joe Biden and Hunter Biden because they spoiled his
chances of pressuring Ukraine into a corrupt deal ? The corrupt president
was ousted in favor of Volodymyr Zelensky, The corrupt Prosecutor General
Viktor Shokin served as prosecutor general under Viktor Yanukovych.

(Yanukovych was charged with asking Vladimir Putin to send Russian troops
to invade Ukraine after he had fled the country.)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ent-viktor-yanukovych-found-guilty-of-treason

February 2015, one year after Viktor Yanukovych, the country’s president at the time,
fled the country for Russia following street protests and violent clashes in the capital,
Kiev-

Western officials hoped Shokin would aggressively prosecute the extensive corruption
— reportedly totaling in the tens of billions of dollars — that authorities uncovered
among Yanukovych and his associates.

Public opinion swiftly turned against Shokin, however. He was seen as insufficientl
pursuing, and in some instances hindering, cases against the Yanukovych-era officials.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...410aa2-dfb1-11e9-be7f-4cc85017c36f_story.html

Ongoing conflict between Ukraine and pro-Russian separatists that began in 2014

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/11/13/why-ukraine-russia-are-still-war/

Trump took the (under the table) Republican money squeezing operation international!
No longer pleased with picking up money bags from GOP efforts and bribes from
American corporate heads (ambassador positions for sale- $1 million dollars)

(The visuals of this begins to seem very ugly, if Trump is extorting kickbacks
from Ukraine, at the moment they are vulnerable from attacks from Russia.

It was not Trump that released the aid to Ukraine ?

Sept. 11, 2019

What really happened before the Trump administration released aid to Ukraine ?

Office of Management and Budget (OMB)

That the aid was released in the immediate aftermath not of Pence’s visit to Zelensky
or to the Murphy-Johnson visit but, instead, after the whistleblower complaint was
about to be surfaced to Congress and public questions about the motivation for the
stoppage.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...re-trump-administration-released-aid-ukraine/

White House budget official says decision to delay aid to Ukraine
was highly irregular

Mark Sandy is the first OMB official to testify, which he did for almost six hours
under subpoena, according to an official working on the impeachment inquiry.
OMB had instructed him not to cooperate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...4b809e-07ef-11ea-924a-28d87132c7ec_story.html

"...the White House removed the ban on aid to Ukraine, capitulating to rising
pressure from Congress, the Pentagon and the State Department after the
existence of the whistleblower report was known. The restoration of the
flow of money was seen by Sondland, Taylor and others as a sign that
the crisis had abated."

Kurt Volker

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/03/kurt-volker-ukraine-trump-special-envoy

'I sensed something odd': What William Taylor told Trump impeachment investigators

There was no escaping Rudy.

Taylor described how, over the course of months, he grew increasingly aware
of and uncomfortable with the existence of what he described as an
“irregular channel” of people engaged in Ukraine policy.

And Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer, was smack dab
in the middle of it.

Not only did Trump relay to top administration officials that
“they needed to work with Rudy Giuliani,” but Ukrainian officials
would at times share the results of what they’d heard about Giuliani’s
role, too.

In one case, top Ukrainian officials told Taylor that they’d learned, through
another Ukrainian official who was in touch with Giuliani, that the former
New York City mayor said Trump was unlikely to hold a phone call with
the new president in Kyiv, Volodymyr Zelensky.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/06/william-taylor-impeachment-testimony-066834

 

[JackLuis]

Brava! for the reporting bodysong.

You've shown the corruption of the Liar in Chief was not politically motivated but was driven by graft that extends all the way to Moscow and there by validated KeithD's, aka Pilot's conjecture that Putin is the source of this repulsive plot against America and the Free World (used loosely).

Putin's plan seems to include sabotaging the US-China relationship as well. The strain that put on their growing economy must be a added pleasure for the Putinistas.

Too bad the CIA/NSA is so fucked up that they could not have seen this coming and warned Obama to choke these ass holes in their sleep! ???

 

[KeithD]

Too bad the CIA/NSA is so fucked up that they could not have seen this coming and warned Obama to choke these ass holes in their sleep! ???

Obama was not a "covert action as an option" president, which wasn't always that helpful in problem prevention.

 

[JackLuis]

Obama was not a "covert action as an option" president, which wasn't always that helpful in problem prevention.

Also the CIA has not been very proficient about problem prevention, see Iran 1953, SOG 1965-72, Irangate, Nicaragua, Panama, etc.

 

[KeithD]

Also the CIA has not been very proficient about problem prevention, see Iran 1953, SOG 1965-72, Irangate, Nicaragua, Panama, etc.

Not something you would know, so not a very enlightened or thoughtful statement. Successes would include the public not knowing about them. In reality, it is a very naïve statement, because it's very much what the CIA is--and has been for over seventy years--in the business of doing. It's part of the intelligence community's perpetual frustration and a tribute to it's continued service to the public welfare. The public doesn't generally ever hear about problems that were prevented. That doesn't mean they aren't being prevented on a continuing basis through the work of the intelligence community.

 

[JackLuis]

Not something you would know, so not a very enlightened or thoughtful statement. Successes would include the public not knowing about them. In reality, it is a very naïve statement, because it's very much what the CIA is--and has been for over seventy years--in the business of doing. It's part of the intelligence community's perpetual frustration and a tribute to it's continued service to the public welfare. The public doesn't generally ever hear about problems that were prevented. That doesn't mean they aren't being prevented on a continuing basis through the work of the intelligence community.

But the public does learn, after the fact, of the CIA's egregious fuckup's, ala Black Sites, War Crimes and Pinochet etc.

It's as if the "Intelligence Community" is an oxymoron?