Trump is finally...

[Kantarii]

So you also comfort people whose loved one(s) just killed by saying, "They knew what they signed up for"?
What a treasure you are.

I don’t know who’s selling Crack to you, but they’re fucking you over big time.

You’re using a leap of assumption and putting your lack of comprehension skills on full display.

My comment spoke only for myself in regards of knowing what I was getting into when I signed up, and not directed at anyone else.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Obviously not with those statements. The guy is a shit headed spastic retard.

Oh look...another lefty who can't support their stupid with anything but name calling.

LOL fuckin' pathetic.

Of course he was right, everyone knows he was right.

Exactly.

The only reason anyone has their britches in a wad over it is because ORANGE MAN BAD!!!

 

[jomar]

No you made very specific claims and I asked you to back them up.

"His behavior is out there for all to see" and "If you don't know you don't want to." sounds like you got NOTHING specific.

Imagine that....more baseless "Orange man BAD!!!" rage.

Seriously? Go ahead and claim victory because I’m not spending time doing your homework when it is literally at you fingertips even though you seem to refuse to see it. There’s plenty of evidence even you have had to have exposure to such as tweets, mocking people including a guy with cerebral palsy, Charlottesville, or his deciding to not pay companies for work on his properties just because thus putting them out of business, or his having to pay fines for racial discrimination. Read a book or two by David Cay Johnston, or Fear by Bob Woodward, two trustworthy Pulitzer winning heavyweight authors with serious reputations.

I have.....he's far more colorblind than the identitarian left.

Feel free to elaborate.

 

[Kantarii]

So back on topic - somewhat. Supposedly, Congress is gonna get a comfodemtial briefing on what’s going on with Iran.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Oh look...another lefty who can't support their stupid with anything but name calling.

Oh look, more sealioning

 

[SpeareChucker]

They aren't going to learn anything new...


We put on sanctions.
Mullahs have to appear to be strong.
So, they make lots of strong noise to stay in power.
They want war even less than we do because they know they will lose power

their power grid too!

 

[RobDownSouth]

They aren't going to learn anything new...


We put on sanctions.
Mullahs have to appear to be strong.
So, they make lots of strong noise to stay in power.
They want war even less than we do because they know they will lose power

their power grid too!

yeah, yeah, we get it, you love beating the war drum, just like you did in 2002. War excites you.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Seriously? Go ahead and claim victory because I’m not spending time doing your homework when it is literally at you fingertips even though you seem to refuse to see it. There’s plenty of evidence even you have had to have exposure to such as tweets,

All sorts of "it's there!!!" ...let's look at the semi-specifics.

mocking people including a guy with cerebral palsy,

So? LOL

Charlottesville,

What about it?

You realize Trump didn't have shit to do with that or anyone's behavior there right?

or his deciding to not pay companies for work on his properties just because thus putting them out of business,

He went out of bidnizz for it...still not seeing the fascism.

or his having to pay fines for racial discrimination.

He also got awards and received praise from leaders of the black community for combating such discrimination.
http://www.newstandardpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Trump-and-Jesse-Jackson-678x381.jpg

Still not seeing the fascism.

Read a book or two by David Cay Johnston, or Fear by Bob Woodward, two trustworthy Pulitzer winning heavyweight authors with serious reputations.

I've had 2+ years of "Orange man BAD!!" I'll not be paying for it.

Feel free to elaborate.

The left has openly adopted identitarian politics.....they are openly racist.

From "white privilege" not a single person who claims it's real can specifically identify to the new "adversity score" on the SAT to the (D)'s official platform of working towards racial equity though wealth redistribution (take from one race to give to the other, because skin color)....it's regressive racial identitarianism thinly veiled as "social jutice" .

Trump is not supporting any of those things.

All the "ORANGE MAN BAD!!" npc's have is that at one point he had a racist employee in his HR department and he's an unashamed manpig.

The claims of fascism are just fucking silly....put the RAW/Slate op-eds down.

The guy has been pushing free speech, association, armament and commerce positions via actions in the form of executive orders and his public statements/request of congress.

He is demonstrably the anti-fascist.

fascism noun
fas·​cism | \ ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi- \
Definition of fascism
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

Funny though....the far left 1/3 of the DNC hits all the marks of fascism except the nationalism, they are the exact opposite on that one point.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Oh look, more sealioning

Except I'm not feigning ignorance, I'm point blank asking Jomar and you to back up your claims.

If you want to give that a special name because you can't but still want to play victim? By all means comrade.

 

[jomar]

All sorts of "it's there!!!" ...let's look at the semi-specifics.

Again, not doing research for what's in front of you.

So? LOL

This started out with Trump saying to a grieving widow her husband knew what he was getting into. I said that's an asshole for saying that and your defending him. I also said he was a horrible person and as a grown man running for president mocking a man with cerebral palsy is one piece of evidence to that. So, that's what.

What about it?

You realize Trump didn't have shit to do with that or anyone's behavior there right?

Trump didn't condemn the neo-nazis, which as President is implicit support.

Also, https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...charlottesville-wouldnt-have-occurred-without

He went out of bidnizz for it...still not seeing the fascism.

No, Trump put other people out of business because he chose not to pay them. He went bankrupt himself for other reasons.

He also got awards and received praise from leaders of the black community for combating such discrimination.

All it says is he got an award, not motivations behind it, which I suspect were self-serving given his overall behavior. Are you truly blind to how Trump blatantly polarizes America?

Still not seeing the fascism.

You're fixated on fascism.

I've had 2+ years of "Orange man BAD!!" I'll not be paying for it.

You can check them out from the library. You are clearly being willfully ignorant.

The left has openly adopted identitarian politics.....they are openly racist.

From "white privilege" not a single person who claims it's real can specifically identify to the new "adversity score" on the SAT to the (D)'s official platform of working towards racial equity though wealth redistribution (take from one race to give to the other, because skin color)....it's regressive racial identitarianism thinly veiled as "social jutice" .

Trump is not supporting any of those things.

All the "ORANGE MAN BAD!!" npc's have is that at one point he had a racist employee in his HR department and he's an unashamed manpig.

The claims of fascism are just fucking silly....put the RAW/Slate op-eds down.

Not a fan of the Adversity score.

You have blinders on when it comes to Trump. Fascinating.

Again, over-focused on fascism, to the exclusion of the racist xenophobic part.

The guy has been pushing free speech, association, armament and commerce positions via actions in the form of executive orders and his public statements/request of congress.

He is demonstrably the anti-fascist.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

Funny though....the far left 1/3 of the DNC hits all the marks of fascism except the nationalism, they are the exact opposite on that one point.

What is it with you and fascism?

As for free speech, Trump enjoys it himself but if he had his way he'd clamp down on the press so they wouldn't be able to editorialize/criticize or repeat back the things he actually says and does.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Again, not doing research for what's in front of you.

So you can't support you claims...got it.

This started out with Trump saying to a grieving widow her husband knew what he was getting into. I said that's an asshole for saying that and your defending him. I also said he was a horrible person and as a grown man running for president mocking a man with cerebral palsy is one piece of evidence to that. So, that's what.

Only to the extent of YOUR claims that his behavior is that of a xenophobic racist and a fascist.

You're fixated on fascism.

Again, over-focused on fascism, to the exclusion of the racist xenophobic part.

What is it with you and fascism?

Because that was your claim about Trump.....those words have meaning and I've not seen anything from Trump that supports your claims, which is why I asked you to support them.

Or being a racist xenophobic fascist (which he clearly has leanings based on his behavior) because he doesn't follow rules. Or the white supremacist thing (which he is a sympathizer based on his behavior).

Trump didn't condemn the neo-nazis, which as President is implicit support.

Not anymore than he is a neo-Marxist for his lack of condemnation of the communist stains that were there.

Can't be both.

You're just making an assumption based on YOUR bias, not what Trump actually said or actions he's taken.

Also, https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...charlottesville-wouldnt-have-occurred-without

How is that even relevant??? LOL

Richard Spencer supporting or rallying around Trumps politics doesn't mean Trump supports Richard Spencer's politics.

No, Trump put other people out of business because he chose not to pay them. He went bankrupt himself for other reasons.

Ok. Again....not really relevant.

All it says is he got an award, not motivations behind it, which I suspect were self-serving given his overall behavior. Are you truly blind to how Trump blatantly polarizes America?

I don't see how Trump is polarizing America, I see hysterical leftist who never learned how to lose with any grace abandoning and attacking the fabric of our society polarizing the hell out the USA.

Not a fan of the Adversity score.

You'll be labeled a white nationalist for that.

You have blinders on when it comes to Trump. Fascinating.

How so?

Nobody can seem to point out any racist, xenophobic or fascistic policies, EOs or actives.

The BEST evidence you've brought to the table that Trump is a racist xenophobic fascist is that a racist xenophobic right winger supports Trump.

Which is fucking pathetic.....quote Trump or name the policy proposal or provide an EO # of his that demonstrates his racism, xenophobia or fascistic leanings and there might be a legit discussion to be had. Otherwise you're just having an NPC freak out over "Orange man BAD!!" .

As for free speech, Trump enjoys it himself but if he had his way he'd clamp down on the press so they wouldn't be able to editorialize/criticize or repeat back the things he actually says and does.

Having the opinion that we should clamp down on the press's ability to libel and slander people is not the same as clamping down on criticism of the things he actually says and does.

And even if it were....far FAR less of an infringement than what the left is advocating with their totally undefined and open ended call to censor "hate" and "offensive" speech.

 

[icanhelp1]

yeah, yeah, we get it, you love beating the war drum, just like you did in 2002. War excites you.

So, you're ok with Iran and the status quo?

 

[about_average]

Only you’ve said it was faked. So before you go getting your pretty pink panties in a wad, no one was even talking about the USS Cole. You brought that up yourself. Start a thread about it or find someone to talk about it with you before you have a heart attack.

You’re using a leap of assumption and putting your lack of comprehension skills on full display.

And yet you don't get the relevance of the Marine barracks and USS Cole attacks in your ignorant comment joining in BB's off the deep end BS about people having no faith in the US military and implying no country would ever attack US military forces.

As for your "I knew what I was getting in to" comment, again, you can't seem to follow a thread, jumping on BB's bandwagon about the only reason someone would think telling a widow "he knew what he signed up for" is a jerk move only because they hate trump.

 

[about_average]

The only reason anyone has their britches in a wad over it is because ORANGE MAN BAD!!!

Quote another president since the founding of the US who said that to a military widow or widower and you might have a point..

 

[Kantarii]

And yet you don't get the relevance of the Marine barracks and USS Cole attacks in your ignorant comment joining in BB's off the deep end BS about people having no faith in the US military and implying no country would ever attack US military forces.

As for your "I knew what I was getting in to" comment, again, you can't seem to follow a thread, jumping on BB's bandwagon about the only reason someone would think telling a widow "he knew what he signed up for" is a jerk move only because they hate trump.

STFU. If I wanted to talk specifically about the USS Cole with you, I would, but I’m not. Start a thread about it. It’s only relevant to you, not me. I didn’t bring it up, so take your BS elsewhere along with your “guilty by association shit”.

You’re assuming shit again, btw. I didn’t say people have no faith in the US Military - reread my original comment and hopefully you’ll see the light.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Quote another president since the founding of the US who said that to a military widow or widower and you might have a point..

Don't see how, it wouldn't be relevant to anything that was said.

STFU. If I wanted to talk specifically about the USS Cole with you, I would, but I’m not. Start a thread about it. It’s only relevant to you, not me. I didn’t bring it up, so take your BS elsewhere along with your “guilty by association shit”.

You’re assuming shit again, btw. I didn’t say people have no faith in the US Military - reread my original comment and hopefully you’ll see the light.

It's the hallmark of the leftist....the more wild the assumptions? The further left they usually are.

 

[Kantarii]

It's the hallmark of the leftist....the more wild the assumptions? The further left they usually are.

That dude is on Crack.

He’s referring to my post #364 on this thread where I said,” I was thinking the Left lacked confidence in the US military, considering we spend nearly a trillion dollars on defense to defend their ass, far more than a BS 25 million dollar investigation and nothing to show for it.”

His reading comprehension skills and assuming shit is disturbing. It makes him look clueless jumping into the conversation at 2 clearly different points.

 

[jomar]

So you can't support you claims...got it.

Not at all. I gave you two credible authors. Check it out.

Only to the extent of YOUR claims that his behavior is that of a xenophobic racist and a fascist.

Because that was your claim about Trump.....those words have meaning and I've not seen anything from Trump that supports your claims, which is why I asked you to support them.

Originally Posted by jomar View Post
Or being a racist xenophobic fascist (which he clearly has leanings based on his behavior) because he doesn't follow rules. Or the white supremacist thing (which he is a sympathizer based on his behavior).

LOL, I said leanings based on his behavior and quoted your assertion practically word for word. But you say I think he is a full-blown fascist and must prove my belief!

But hey, knock yourself out...

Is Donald Trump a racist

Is Donald Trump a xenophobe

Is Donald Trump a fascist

Not anymore than he is a neo-Marxist for his lack of condemnation of the communist stains that were there.

Can't be both.

You're just making an assumption based on YOUR bias, not what Trump actually said or actions he's taken.

Go back and review the incident and its aftermath, including Trumps actions.

How is that even relevant??? LOL

Richard Spencer supporting or rallying around Trumps politics doesn't mean Trump supports Richard Spencer's politics.

It's relevant because you said Trump had no impact on Charlottesville.

Ok. Again....not really relevant.

A correction of your claim.

I don't see how Trump is polarizing America, I see hysterical leftist who never learned how to lose with any grace abandoning and attacking the fabric of our society polarizing the hell out the USA.

Have you ever watched his rallies? He didn't initiate things simmering under the surface. But he has fanned the flames.

How so?

Nobody can seem to point out any racist, xenophobic or fascistic policies, EOs or actives.

The BEST evidence you've brought to the table that Trump is a racist xenophobic fascist is that a racist xenophobic right winger supports Trump.

Which is fucking pathetic.....quote Trump or name the policy proposal or provide an EO # of his that demonstrates his racism, xenophobia or fascistic leanings and there might be a legit discussion to be had. Otherwise you're just having an NPC freak out over "Orange man BAD!!" .

You don't have to have policies or EOs to have leanings. It can be expressed in one's behavior. See above links.

I'm not the one freaking out here.

Having the opinion that we should clamp down on the press's ability to libel and slander people is not the same as clamping down on criticism of the things he actually says and does.

And even if it were....far FAR less of an infringement than what the left is advocating with their totally undefined and open ended call to censor "hate" and "offensive" speech.

What he thinks is libel and slander is actual news of what he says and does, and he doesn't like it.

Yeah, I didn't like when universities banned speeches/presentations of far right speakers.

 

[bbx56]

Racist incidents are down since Trump’s election
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/20..****_475093.html

all the so called racist acts

are HOAXES...done by NIGGERS/GAZE/FAGS/FEMZ/TRANZ etc against themselves

 

[bbx56]

fucking asshole uses VOX!

 

[Kantarii]

Racist incidents are down since Trump’s election
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/20..****_475093.html

all the so called racist acts

are HOAXES...done by NIGGERS/GAZE/FAGS/FEMZ/TRANZ etc against themselves

Don’t tell this to about_average. He’ll wanna talk about the USS Cole with you.

 

[bbx56]

USS Liberty!

 

[bbx56]

When cops in Dallas were gunned down by a NIGGER

Nigger HO blamed RACISM and JIM CROW

Fuck you all and this TDS lies

 

[RobDownSouth]

So, you're ok with Iran and the status quo?

Not anymore.

A little recent history is in order: In 2015, Iran agreed a long-term deal on its nuclear program with a group of world powers known as the P5+1 - the US, UK, France, China, Russia and Germany. This was called the JCPOA.

By most accounts (outside of Fox News, naturally), this was a viable working framework for Iranian nuclear disarmament. Iran had sanctions lifted, allowing it to trade in the international marketplace.

Trump's base does not like Iran, so Trump unilaterally abrogated the agreement in 2018, because men like Trump seldom keep their word or promises. Trump reinstated sanctions. Iran's economy has been in the toilet since then.

John Bolton was in the doghouse with Trump, he advocated that the USA side with a coup in Venezuela. The coup failed and Trump was pissed that he personally looked "weak" in the coup attempt. Trump blamed Bolton.

Bolton dusted off the old wag-the-dog playbook and came up with a mothballed plan to invade Iran with 120,000 troops (a pitifully low number).

Trump appears to be looking for "regime change" in Iran, failing to comprehend the lessons of "pre-emptive war" from the failed Dubya regime.

Trump is beating the drums of war, and sycophants like you, AJ and BotanyBoy are succoring him.

This will not end well for the United States. It may, however, be enough to re-elect Trump, which is what matters most for the "party over country" demographic.

 

[icanhelp1]

Don’t tell this to about_average. He’ll wanna talk about the USS Cole with you.

about_average is more about finding mistakes with the use of possessives and contractions than anything of substance. The attacks on the USS Cole and the Marine barracks were suicide bomber terrorist attacks, asymmetrical warfare not a country attacking another country in the conventional sense.