Vivek was right- Too many people support mediocrity

[nowisthetime]

I've never thought I would agree with someone on the other side of politics, but I had to create this thread.

Vivek Ramaswamy made an interesting point recently that resonates with a lot of what we’ve seen in American politics. It’s hard to ignore how often a large number of the American electorate seems to settle for mediocrity not only when it comes to general life, but also....leadership. Take the 2016 and 2020 elections, for example DJT, for all his flaws, was seen as a change from the establishment, but his leadership lacked the depth and foresight. On the other hand, VP Harris, despite her historic role and tremendous potential, failed to capture the election.

What’s concerning is how folks, particularly, MAGAts, come to accept this as the norm today. The country often focuses more on the spectacle of politics than on the substance of leadership. The corporate run media fans the flames. The reality is, people seem to prioritize style and entertainment over competence and long-term vision. And while both candidates brought something different to the table, the overall standard of leadership has often felt more about managing the base than truly uniting or improving the country.

I get that elections are messy, and no one is perfect. But when we keep choosing mediocrity, we risk stagnation and missed opportunities for real progress. We should be aiming higher—demanding better leadership that can tackle the serious challenges ahead with skill and integrity.

But there’s another layer to this problem: the way many MAGAts and Republican politicians have backed policies that actively harm vital systems like education, healthcare, and infrastructure. How can they say they want the best for America if they continue voting for people who propose cuts to schools, reduce funding for public services, or fail to address the root causes of inequality? America First, my ass. Then you wonder why companies want to bring in the best and the brightest from other nations when the public school systems, particularly across MAGAt states is doo doo. The rhetoric may be appealing to those who feel left behind, but the reality is that these policies undermine the very foundation of a thriving society. Cutting education funding and rolling back investments in our future isn’t a path to excellence—it’s a path to deeper divisions and stagnation.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyv7gxp02yo

 

[BeatMan]

it is funny that fleers to America who won't use their skills to improve their homelands lecturing Americans about mediocrity

 

[YDB95]

Of course, the real reason people like him want more highly skilled immigrants is, they'll usually work for less.

 

[DeluxAuto]

One easy thing the losers could do if they really wanted to make the political system better would be to stop calling the majority of their fellow voters “maggots”.


Lol

Yes, we should be very concerned about how the "fuck your feelings" twats feel.

 

[Politruk]

What's really dangerous is not mere tolerance for mediocrity, but anti-intellectualism.

"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

—Isaac Asimov[1]

 

[Politruk]

Flashing on Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead. That author-tract has a definite (and definitely false) message, which is that leftist politics is not really about poverty vs. wealth, but mediocrity vs. excellence. Toohey, the villain of the story, patronizes eccentric artists, not because they are eccentric, but because they are mediocre. He wages war on Roarke because Roarke is excellent.

Roarke is supposedly based on Frank Lloyd Wright -- but based on Rand's descriptions of Roarke's designs, he has a lot more in common artistically with Hitler's pet architect Albert Speer.

 

[rgraham666]

Of course, the real reason people like him want more highly skilled immigrants is, they'll usually work for less.

Have to work for less.

Any backtalk or sign of displeasure and back to your country of origin you go, and you never get another chance.

Indentured servitude has returned.

 

[TallMan69]

One easy thing the losers could do if they really wanted to make the political system better would be to stop calling the majority of their fellow voters “maggots”.


Lol

They love it. They wear things like that and ‘Basket of Deplorables’ on their martyr mantle as a badge of honor.

 

[Bray123]

’No one likes a sore loser. That’s one of the worst victimhood complexes of all.’
Ramaswamy on Trump, as written in his book for the record.

 

[Yarglenurp]

It’s not that deep. Ramaswamy and Musk wants more H1-B’s because he wants to hire developers on the cheap, guys who will work $200K/year jobs for $50K or less because they don’t want to go back to India.

“Mediocrity” support is just the distraction. We’re debating what the hypothetical average American supports while they undermine the pay of American employees and unionization efforts by tech workers.

News flash, average American wants to have high pay and still have time to start and maintain a family. Not all of us are hyper billionaires who can afford to build a harem palace in Austin Texas. You’d think the pro-birth Musk would care about this, but that’s clearly bullshit.

Stop paying attention to what they say and start paying attention to what they do. Here’s what you should be hearing when Ramaswamy talks: “blah blah I want more H1-Bs blah blah.”

 

[UltraChad]

I've never thought I would agree with someone on the other side of politics, but I had to create this thread.

Vivek Ramaswamy made an interesting point recently that resonates with a lot of what we’ve seen in American politics. It’s hard to ignore how often a large number of the American electorate seems to settle for mediocrity not only when it comes to general life, but also....leadership. Take the 2016 and 2020 elections, for example DJT, for all his flaws, was seen as a change from the establishment, but his leadership lacked the depth and foresight. On the other hand, VP Harris, despite her historic role and tremendous potential, failed to capture the election.

What’s concerning is how folks, particularly, MAGAts, come to accept this as the norm today. The country often focuses more on the spectacle of politics than on the substance of leadership. The corporate run media fans the flames. The reality is, people seem to prioritize style and entertainment over competence and long-term vision. And while both candidates brought something different to the table, the overall standard of leadership has often felt more about managing the base than truly uniting or improving the country.

I get that elections are messy, and no one is perfect. But when we keep choosing mediocrity, we risk stagnation and missed opportunities for real progress. We should be aiming higher—demanding better leadership that can tackle the serious challenges ahead with skill and integrity.

But there’s another layer to this problem: the way many MAGAts and Republican politicians have backed policies that actively harm vital systems like education, healthcare, and infrastructure. How can they say they want the best for America if they continue voting for people who propose cuts to schools, reduce funding for public services, or fail to address the root causes of inequality? America First, my ass. Then you wonder why companies want to bring in the best and the brightest from other nations when the public school systems, particularly across MAGAt states is doo doo. The rhetoric may be appealing to those who feel left behind, but the reality is that these policies undermine the very foundation of a thriving society. Cutting education funding and rolling back investments in our future isn’t a path to excellence—it’s a path to deeper divisions and stagnation.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyv7gxp02yo

LOL i love the crying and whining....it's fuckin' delicious watching the USA haters cope and seethe.

 

[Lance_Castro]

 

[Lance_Castro]

Nothing worse than those scumbags looking for ways to line their own pockets!!!




right Democrats???

 

[Bray123]

The Rapist-elect appointed the head of education based on their experience in pro-wrestling. A known sexual predator under current investigation was selected to be Attorney General. A Fox 'News' commentator has been chosen to head the military.

Mediocrity doesn't even enter the equation. If only it were so.

 

[Lance_Castro]

They put their allies on their team; you would too.

YawnLol

Biden vows diverse administration – but first appointments are from his political circle​

The president-elect has unveiled a large portion of his senior staff, including advisers Biden has kept close to him for years

 

[Chernosoth]

Mediocrity is mostly what we get in a two-party system. That works for a while, until mistakes and consequences accumulate and build into a situation that require a populist revolt and election of an FDR or Trump.

FDR's expansion of the bureaucracy was an improvement that worked well enough for a growing empire. Now we're half a century past the peak of empire. Cutting the bloat out is necessary for national survival.

 

[HisArpy]

I embrace mediocrity in public officials.

The world at large doesn't need big ideas for change, it needs stability. A perpetual stagnation of government so that change happens in the private sector and can be embraced by the people as they choose rather than being foisted off onto the unwilling electorate by those who "know better" than everyone else.

 

[Lance_Castro]

I embrace mediocrity in public officials.

The world at large doesn't need big ideas for change, it needs stability. A perpetual stagnation of government so that change happens in the private sector and can be embraced by the people as they choose rather than being foisted off onto the unwilling electorate by those who "know better" than everyone else.

I agree… the public service should be like a freight train, big , predictable, on track, on time.

 

[HisArpy]

I agree… the public service should be like a freight train, big , predictable, on track, on time.

Other than the "big" part, I think this is what's supposed to be intended. The only thing to add would be a prohibition against publicly disturbing crashes or accidents. Including those by the freight handlers and passengers as well as the conductors and engineers.

 

[Chernosoth]

Mediocrity would be a huge compliment for Biden and Harris, but idiotic figureheads are typical for dying empires.

 

[icanhelp1]

Other than the "big" part, I think this is what's supposed to be intended. The only thing to add would be a prohibition against publicly disturbing crashes or accidents. Including those by the freight handlers and passengers as well as the conductors and engineers.

Democrats love haste and we all know haste makes waste!!

 

[nowisthetime]

I've never thought I would agree with someone on the other side of politics, but I had to create this thread.

Vivek Ramaswamy made an interesting point recently that resonates with a lot of what we’ve seen in American politics. It’s hard to ignore how often a large number of the American electorate seems to settle for mediocrity not only when it comes to general life, but also....leadership. Take the 2016 and 2020 elections, for example DJT, for all his flaws, was seen as a change from the establishment, but his leadership lacked the depth and foresight. On the other hand, VP Harris, despite her historic role and tremendous potential, failed to capture the election.

What’s concerning is how folks, particularly, MAGAts, come to accept this as the norm today. The country often focuses more on the spectacle of politics than on the substance of leadership. The corporate run media fans the flames. The reality is, people seem to prioritize style and entertainment over competence and long-term vision. And while both candidates brought something different to the table, the overall standard of leadership has often felt more about managing the base than truly uniting or improving the country.

I get that elections are messy, and no one is perfect. But when we keep choosing mediocrity, we risk stagnation and missed opportunities for real progress. We should be aiming higher—demanding better leadership that can tackle the serious challenges ahead with skill and integrity.

But there’s another layer to this problem: the way many MAGAts and Republican politicians have backed policies that actively harm vital systems like education, healthcare, and infrastructure. How can they say they want the best for America if they continue voting for people who propose cuts to schools, reduce funding for public services, or fail to address the root causes of inequality? America First, my ass. Then you wonder why companies want to bring in the best and the brightest from other nations when the public school systems, particularly across MAGAt states is doo doo. The rhetoric may be appealing to those who feel left behind, but the reality is that these policies undermine the very foundation of a thriving society. Cutting education funding and rolling back investments in our future isn’t a path to excellence—it’s a path to deeper divisions and stagnation.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyv7gxp02yo

Maga nuts vs Maga tech


Wanted to add, we all know the major reason the maga nut side hates the maga tech bros. It's not about the economy.

They simply do not want anyone darker than the shade of pale, coming into this country.

Brings me back to another reason why the maga nut side votes against their best interest for politicians who destroy vital programs uplifting American....they are so filled with vitriolic hatred of anything brown or black, that they want to see politicians punish those demographics even if it blows back at them. They don't care. They are disingenuous when it comes to shouting from the rooftops about America First.

 

[Lance_Castro]

Maga nuts vs Maga tech


Wanted to add, we all know the major reason the maga nut side hates the maga tech bros. It's not about the economy.

They simply do not want anyone darker than the shade of pale, coming into this country.

Brings me back to another reason why the maga nut side votes against their best interest for politicians who destroy vital programs uplifting American....they are so filled with vitriolic hatred of anything brown or black, that they want to see politicians punish those demographics even if it blows back at them. They don't care. They are disingenuous when it comes to shouting from the rooftops about America First.

Lol. Typical ZuluLips.

 

[Politruk]

I embrace mediocrity in public officials.

The world at large doesn't need big ideas for change, it needs stability. A perpetual stagnation of government so that change happens in the private sector and can be embraced by the people as they choose rather than being foisted off onto the unwilling electorate by those who "know better" than everyone else.

That's just the kind of nonthinking that got Eisenhower re-elected in '56!

(Not much harm came of that, except that it kept Nixon around -- but Stevenson would have done better. And maybe pulled out of 'Nam.)

 

[HisArpy]

Maga nuts vs Maga tech


Wanted to add, we all know the major reason the maga nut side hates the maga tech bros. It's not about the economy.

They simply do not want anyone darker than the shade of pale, coming into this country.

Brings me back to another reason why the maga nut side votes against their best interest for politicians who destroy vital programs uplifting American....they are so filled with vitriolic hatred of anything brown or black, that they want to see politicians punish those demographics even if it blows back at them. They don't care. They are disingenuous when it comes to shouting from the rooftops about America First.

^this is idiotic even for you.

Slavery was about bringing those who are "darker than the shade of pale" into this country. Which defeats your argument unless you want to add another dimension so far unstated to it. Which means you're going to have to move the goalposts a tad.

From there, even if you DO manage to move the goalposts, you have people like Vivek who aren't white and yet who are extremely successful. This trend is continued through H1B visas whereby "non whites" are allowed to come into the country and "be successful" despite their skin tone being "darker than the shade of pale." Another move of the goalposts is going to have to be made.

And of course, there's the estimable Ilhan Omar, who is in fact a refugee and "darker than the shade of pale." Yet successful. Yes, there are those who despise her, but in order to make your argument work, you're going to have to move those goalposts even further than you have already because she was elected in part by those with a pale skin tone.

In the end, you're chasing your argument with the goalposts attempting to somehow make your statements fit into some kind of... something or other. Which illustrates how incredibly idiotic they are to begin with.