Where do you fit politically?

[Shankara20]

*giggles* now thats my kind of liberal

we lefties need to take care of each other

 

[midwestyankee]

My dot was right in the middle too. I think we need a draft, with other options. I'd like to see an army of young people picking up trash from the side of the road and around the lake. I'd like to see another 20,000 on border patrol. And 50,000 more in the peace corp. It wouldn't hurt anyone to serve for 2 years before college. Doing something, not just the military.

WD, you and I don't ofen agree on matters political, but here we're of one mind. I did a somewhat similar stint right after college (taught in an inner city for next to no money and all the physical risk I could bear) and presently I have a niece who is in her third or fourth year working with Americorps (she's now on staff after doing her time as a volunteer). Such work is broadening on so many levels. It forces country kids into the city, city kids out into areas blighted by rural poverty. It shows young people how to give without a need for getting anything in return. It teaches them life skills, communications skills, and empathy.

Our nation would be in considerably better shape if we treasured and nurtured empathy the way we treasure skill at games and sports.

 

[midwestyankee]

I took the survey that Homburg posted when it was first put up here some months ago. As I recall, my benchmates were Ghandi and Lincoln.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

By Homburg's test, I'm somewhat right of Gandhi.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x95/Sir_Winston54/axeswithnames.gif http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x95/Sir_Winston54/pcgraphpng.png

Still on the left and biased toward libertarianism.

Didn't care a whole lot for the wording of some of the questions, though (e.g., "there is now a worrying fusion of information and entertainment;" "all people have their rights, but it is better for all of us that different sorts of people should keep to their own kind" (please define - racially different, gender identification different, sexual preference different, ???); "the businessperson and the manufacturer are more important than the writer and the artist" - (important to whom? And define "important."); "making peace with the establishment is an important aspect of maturity" (is "making peace" considered "giving in to" or accepting, or becoming a part of?); "pornography, depicting consenting adults, should be legal for the adult population" (whose definition of pornography - one sexually repressed Baptist preacher in a small southern town, metrosexuals in NYC, members of Lit?)).

As an experiment, I went back through twice more, answering "Strongly Disagree" to all questions, and then "Strongly Agree" to all questions, with the following results.

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Do we have any stats gurus who can definitively say that on a bias-neutral questionnaire, this would be an expected result of answering all the questions in this manner?

 

[midwestyankee]

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Do we have any stats gurus who can definitively say that on a bias-neutral questionnaire, this would be an expected result of answering all the questions in this manner

Yes. If you answer to the extremes on a multi-variate test that is reasonably well balanced across the variants, your results should finish on one of the axes. That your final placement is not exactly in the center demonstrates a mild skew in the question set.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

Yes. If you answer to the extremes on a multi-variate test that is reasonably well balanced across the variants, your results should finish on one of the axes. That your final placement is not exactly in the center demonstrates a mild skew in the question set.

So the fact that it finished centered left-right, but 40% or so up-down (authoritarian/libertarian) indicates a mild skew of the question set in that regard, but good balance on the left-right questions? Hmmm...

 

[rosco rathbone]

There needs to be a three-axis political test that adds perversity level.

 

[snowbyte]

I'm Chaotic Neutral so my idea of a political party is having drinks with a bunch of Obama or Clinton volunteers until I find someone to corrupt.

 

[midwestyankee]

So the fact that it finished centered left-right, but 40% or so up-down (authoritarian/libertarian) indicates a mild skew of the question set in that regard, but good balance on the left-right questions? Hmmm...

That's the most likely explanation for your results when you answered with the same extreme choice each time. If the question set were perfectly balanced, then any set of reponses that were identical should balance each other out. For every question that was intended to identify a libertarian orientation there should be one that equally reliably identifies an authoritarian orientation. If the total universe of questions is perfectly balanced, the result of answering to either extreme on all questions should be the mid-point of that axis. And if the question set is meant to discriminate on two opposing axes, then the same method of answering all questions with the most/least response should produce a result in the center of the four-way graph.

Since your results when you used this methodology showed a dot on axis but off center, then it's clear that the question set is mildly skewed but reasonably balanced.

 

[PublicAffection]

ACCORDING TO YOUR ANSWERS,

The political group that
agrees with you most is...

.

CENTRIST



CENTRISTS espouse a "middle ground" regarding government

control of the economy and personal behavior. Depending on

the issue, they sometimes favor government intervention

and sometimes support individual freedom of choice.

Centrists pride themselves on keeping an open mind,

tend to oppose "political extremes," and emphasize what

they describe as "practical" solutions to problems.



Your PERSONAL issues Score is 60%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 70%.
(Scores falling on the Centrist border are counted as Centrist.)

 

[Byakuya]

I got Libertarian.. but the quiz seems awfully short to give an accurate result.. there are a lot of issues that weren't mentioned..

 

[Etoile]

According to this one, I am liberal. Shocking! But seriously, I like the way they approach it. They ask questions based on two statements, not one. It's a unique style of questioning.

 

[Shankara20]

According to this one, I am liberal. Shocking! But seriously, I like the way they approach it. They ask questions based on two statements, not one. It's a unique style of questioning.

they also ID me as "Liberal"

 

[Sir_Winston54]

According to this one, I am liberal. Shocking! But seriously, I like the way they approach it. They ask questions based on two statements, not one. It's a unique style of questioning.

I fit the group they call

Disaffected
Based on your answers to the questionnaire, you most closely resemble survey respondents within the Disaffected typology group. This does not mean that you necessarily fit every group characteristic or agree with the group on all issues.

Disaffecteds represent 9 percent of the American public, and 10 percent of registered voters. (I always knew I was a minority. Can I use this to apply for minority business owner status and get guvvamint he'p? )

Basic Description
Disaffecteds are deeply cynical about government and unsatisfied with both their own economic situation and the overall state of the nation. Under heavy financial pressure personally, this group is deeply concerned about immigration and environmental policies, particularly to the extent that they affect jobs. Alienated from politics, Disaffecteds have little interest in keeping up with news about politics and government, and few participated in the last election.

 

[Netzach]

Um, that test needs to put down the crack pipe.


Would YOU call me a centrist????

 

[Netzach]

I show up liberal on Etoile's test but no one asked me anything about gun control or eminent domain law.

 

[Netzach]

My dot was right in the middle too. I think we need a draft, with other options. I'd like to see an army of young people picking up trash from the side of the road and around the lake. I'd like to see another 20,000 on border patrol. And 50,000 more in the peace corp. It wouldn't hurt anyone to serve for 2 years before college. Doing something, not just the military.

Damn, that's creepy that we agree on that. Only when I talk about the value of the WPA people call me a pinko. But that would be a similar function, and I agree that for all its faults, militarizing these non-combat positions and paying and giving military style benefits to those positions makes it a not totally unworkable idea.

 

[Homburg]

I am Disaffected, per Etoile's test.

Meh.

 

[rosco rathbone]

I came out a statist on the OP quiz.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Liberal on the other one.

 

[Rosie_Riveter]

There I am in the lower left quadrant with the Dalai Lama and Nelson Mandela.

Two of my favorite people.

 

[Evil_Geoff]

According to the Libertarians, I'm a libertarian,

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz-score/draw.php?p=8&e=8

According to Homburg's test:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-5.00&soc=-2.77

That puts me down there in the lower left quadrant with the Dalai Lama and Ghandi

And per Etoile's:
I am DISAFFECTED.

Hmmm.. Socially liberal, financially conservative, dont' trust big business or big government, but need the one to keep the other in check...

Do what you like as long as it harm's no one else and the money isn't coming out of MY pocket...

 

[Sir_Winston54]

According to the Libertarians, I'm a libertarian,

According to Homburg's test:

That puts me down there in the lower left quadrant with the Dalai Lama and Ghandi

And per Etoile's:
I am DISAFFECTED.

Hmmm.. Socially liberal, financially conservative, dont' trust big business or big government, but need the one to keep the other in check...

Do what you like as long as it harm's no one else and the money isn't coming out of MY pocket...

Heh. On the Lib test, I'm slightly to the left of you; on Homburg's, I'm slightly to the right; and on Etoile's, we match categories. Are you sure we aren't twins separated at birth (and by 15-20 years)?

 

[Evil_Geoff]

Heh. On the Lib test, I'm slightly to the left of you; on Homburg's, I'm slightly to the right; and on Etoile's, we match categories. Are you sure we aren't twins separated at birth (and by 15-20 years)?

Well... I suppose it _is_ possible. Theoritcally speaking. Depends on when you were born I suppose... I was born in 61 and my dad was 31 at the time. If he got busy his senior year in High School, I could have a brother born in 47... Mom on the other hand was 25 at the time I was born... and she had married Dad right outta college at 21 and they were hitched 4 years before I popped up... for you to be offspring via that route I would think that the earliest that might have occured would have been about 57-ish... On the other hand if YOUR dad was travelling in Alabama in 1960...

So depending on your specific circumstances it's possible. Maybe...

 

[Etoile]

Well... I suppose it _is_ possible. Theoritcally speaking. Depends on when you were born I suppose... I was born in 61 and my dad was 31 at the time. If he got busy his senior year in High School, I could have a brother born in 47... Mom on the other hand was 25 at the time I was born... and she had married Dad right outta college at 21 and they were hitched 4 years before I popped up... for you to be offspring via that route I would think that the earliest that might have occured would have been about 57-ish... On the other hand if YOUR dad was travelling in Alabama in 1960...

So depending on your specific circumstances it's possible. Maybe...

Can twins be born a month or two apart?
(The record is 93 days!)