Which side are you on ?

[gotsnowgotslush]

I asked a few questions of myself.

How do you visualize Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump?
A simple image emerged.

Hillary stands in the sunlight.
Trump stands in the dark of moonless night.

Hillary has stature, is monumental.
Statue sized, with sword and book.
Shifts her book, to free an arm
strokes the heads of trusting children
Motherly teacher and guardian.

Donald Trump is monster sized.
Monstrous giant, seeks to destroy.
Oogie Boogie.
Rapey stalker with eyes of death.
Destroyer of trust.
Thief of dreams.
Killer of hope.
Shark teeth.

Hillary shares the sunlight with everyone.
Donald does not want to share the sky
with the moon.
Trump is an empty sack of a facade.
Trump is filled with ugly, horrible,
repulsive things.
Trump wears the skin of a human being.
Trump is not human inside.
Something inhuman lives inside the skin
that looks like a man.
It is not Trump's fault.
His father killed the human being
that should be living inside
that body.
Trump is the same as Oogie Boogie
from "Nightmare Before Christmas."
Trump's father suffered from a
mental illness, that caused him
to be cruel.The cruelty killed
Trump's brother. Trump became
cruel to survive. He was cruel to
his own brother. His brother chose
to be a good man. His father hated
good men.

The brother died of the heartbreak,
of being hated by his father and brother.
He killed himself, because he could not
endure the pain. Scorn, rejection, and
emasculation. The brother regenerated
his hopeful heart and masculinity.
But, unlike Prometheus,
Trump's brother was mortal,
and the remedy that salved the pain,
at last, turned on him.
His ability to rise was spent.

Hillary Clinton carries a torch of light
It is a light of love, hope, education,
sharing, freedom and truth.
It is an inclusive light.
She traveled the world
and gave acceptance.

Donald Trump absorbs all of the light.
Hate, racism, xenophobia, homophobia,
exclusion, secrecy, dishonesty, lies.
He excludes or exploits.
He takes, uses, and discards.
He disreguards.

Are there any exceptions to Hillary Clinton's light ?
Loyal to the USA, she must protect national secrets.
Real national secrets, not bureaucratic inventions.
She must be loyal to friends.
She is not a fool.
She is wise.

Does Donald have secrets ?
Donald did not have a government job.
Donald did not work for the USA.
Donald's life is about Donald.
His mentor was the most crooked operative
that ever lived.
His father was a criminal.
He learned from his father.
Donald's life is made of dishonesty.
Donald's life is made of greed.

Hillary is lifted by millions of hands, that she helped.
She has an alliance.
She earned trust and respect.
She has friends.
People are proud to stand by her side.
Donald Trump stands on a mountain of people
he uses and throws away.
He betrays everyone.
He has no friends.
He has temporary alliances.
People are ashamed to stand by his side.

Hillary has wings of white fluffy feathers.
She carries the book of justice.
She carries the sword of truth and education.
Donald has wings of black leather with claws.
He carries the disease of greed and corruption.
Donald takes prisoners.
He hurts people.

Hillary has the power of yes.
Yes, she is strong.
Yes, she endured persecution.
Yes, she gave birth to a daughter.
Yes, she has a husband.
Yes, she stood by her imperfect husband.
Yes, she is educated.
Yes, she is intelligent.
Yes, she helps people,
no matter who they are.

Donald's power is the power of no.
No, Donald will not live up to his promises.
No, Donald will not live up to his agreements.
No, Donald will not give fair treatment.
No, Donald will not be honorable.
No, Donald will not be moral.
No, Donald has no boundaries.
No, Donald has no honor.
No, Donald has no truth.
No, Donald has no respect.
No, Donald is not sane.


Donald Trump chose the James Cagney role,

Cody Jarrett:" Made it, Ma! Top of the world!"

Hillary Clinton carries the fire.
Donald Trump does not.

Hillary Clinton would ask for volunteers for the greater good.
Trump would take what he wants.

You have to carry the fire."
I don't know how to."
Yes, you do."
Is the fire real? The fire?"
Yes it is."
Where is it? I don't know where it is."
Yes you do. It's inside you. It always was there. I can see it.”

― Cormac McCarthy, The Road

A man recently said to the Media, that "Trump will walk over your cold dead body."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/5/tim-ryan-to-workers-trump-will-walk-over-your-cold/

I will go one further. If Trump had a role in the movie, he would form an alliance with killers and sell the dead bodies. Then he would betray all of his allies and eat them.
Trump would murder his own son, to live.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Hillary is just another damn politician. Nothing more, nothing less.

Trump is a wannabee politician. Nothing more but maybe something less.

 

[sr71plt]

I stand for stability and steady progressive movement for the U.S. government and society. From the beginning, and because I don't have to "like" the one in the office as long as they are functioning as well as others will let them, it's been pretty clear to me who could best maintain those goals--and who would be the biggest disasters (and, no, I didn't consider Trump the worst disaster--just close to that).

If the system allowed it, I'd prefer Obama stayed around for four more years--but that he take a bigger hammer to the Congress if it remained in Republican hands.

Either way, I think we're going to have to double back on the education system, and put a whole bunch of deplorables through school again to learn what it means to be a responsible citizen and a human being.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I'm not, M'uricuh is fucked either way.

I'm going to sit on my mountain and laugh

 

[Hypoxia]

Side? I've never voted for a Clinton or any of their cohort. California won't go for Tromp so I have no reason to start now. I am certainly not *for* either contender but I am very *against* Tromp. HRC is a slimy status-quo pol; I supported Bernie. Tromp is a disaster and I can see him calling for insurrection when he loses. Best I can hope for is he admits it was all a sick joke.

Which side am I on? The side of good governance. Maybe that's the ultimate fantasy.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Peace, order and good government.

 

[julybaby04]

I will vote for Trump.

 

[sr71plt]

I'm not, M'uricuh is fucked either way.

I'm going to sit on my mountain and laugh

Hope you find a mountain without a WiFi connection.

 

[Tigersman]

Watching the dab ate tonight, all I saw was Trump doing the Texas Two Step instead of answering the questions. Pence did the same thing.

 

[sr71plt]

Watching the dab ate tonight, all I saw was Trump doing the Texas Two Step instead of answering the questions. Pence did the same thing.

Happily, they don't seem to be in like with each other anymore. That's worth a TV commercial in its own right.

 

[underguy1]

Hillary Clinton carries a torch of light
It is a light of love, hope, education,
sharing, freedom and truth.

You

Are

One

Sick

Fuck.

 

[underguy1]

I stand for stability and steady progressive movement for the U.S. government and society. From the beginning, and because I don't have to "like" the one in the office as long as they are functioning as well as others will let them, it's been pretty clear to me who could best maintain those goals--and who would be the biggest disasters (and, no, I didn't consider Trump the worst disaster--just close to that).

If the system allowed it, I'd prefer Obama stayed around for four more years--but that he take a bigger hammer to the Congress if it remained in Republican hands.

Either way, I think we're going to have to double back on the education system, and put a whole bunch of deplorables through school again to learn what it means to be a responsible citizen and a human being.

YOU are not a progressive in any political sense of the word.

You are a right wing corporatist Liberal.

Your candidate is a right wing, militarist neoconservative.

The DNC has nothing whatsoever to offer the world's people. It works for exactly the same monied interests that the RNC works for.

Your ideology is far closer to fascism than anything that could be even considered to be progressive.

 

[Legatus]

Your melodramatic caricature doesn't change anything.

I'm voting Trump.

#MakeAmericaGreatAgain

 

[KUJACK]

No difference

Conservatives want to keep their bad ideas and liberals want to change to new bad ideas.
Either way,we are fucked!

 

[BoyNextDoor]

I will vote for Trump.

Make sure you wear your pussy bow. It is what he makes all his wimmin wear

 

[phrodeau]

And did you notice that Melania was not allowed to speak? Must be a religion thing.

 

[julybaby04]

Your melodramatic caricature doesn't change anything.

I'm voting Trump.

#MakeAmericaGreatAgain

...

 

[Legatus]

...

If you are following the news today, he has the liberals scared to death, the press is in full damage control mode, AND all of the cowardly rank-and-file establishment Republicans have been exposed as the cowards they are.

He may end up destroying the life blood of both parties.

It's really an incredible sight to behold; the Democrats defeated, the Republicans purged, and America winning.

 

[sr71plt]

It's really an incredible sight to behold; the Democrats defeated, the Republicans purged, and America winning.

Yes, your chosen perspective of the current situation certainly is incredible to behold.

 

[Hypoxia]

Some years old but still amusing

The Political Spectrum For Total Morons

“It is a pity... that more politicians are not bastards by birth instead of vocation.” —Katherine Whitehorn

Politics is so confusing, especially when you try to figure out just where someone is on the political map. So many political maps are not just two-dimensional, like flat toilet paper, but bipolar, like a manic-depressive mass-murderer. There really ARE more positions than just CONSERVATIVE vs. LIBERAL. But in modern America, the others just don't count. Bother.

Politics is so confusing, so here are a number of items that can help you tell the difference between liberals and conservatives, and maybe others. Good luck, sucker.

LIBERALS

•"In every American community you have varying shades of political opinion. One of the shadiest of these is the LIBERALS. An outspoken group on many subjects - ten degrees to the left of center in good times, and ten degrees to the right of center if it affects them personally." --Phil Ochs

•"A LIBERAL is someone who has just changed their mind." --Morton Thompson
•"A LIBERAL is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel. --Robert Frost
•"A LIBERAL is a RADICAL with a wife and child." --Anon.
•"A RADICAL is a CONSERVATIVE out of a job." --Richmond News Ledger
•"A PACIFIST is one who fights with everybody but the enemy." --Anon.
•"COMMUNISM is the exploitation of the strong by the weak." --P.J. Proudhom
•"COMMUNISM doesn't work because people like to own stuff." --Frank Zappa
•"SOCIALISTS suffer from an overwhelming compulsion to believe what is not true." --H.L. Mencken
•"SOCIALISM is a system which is workable only in Heaven, where it isn't needed, and in Hell, where they've got it." --Cecil Palmer

“Sure, once I was young and impulsive,
I wore every conceivable pin,
Even went to the socialist meetings,
Learned all the old union hymns,
But I've grown older and wiser,
And that's why I'm turning you in,
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal.”
--Phil Ochs

CONSERVATIVES

•"A CONSERVATIVE is a man who is too cowardly to fight and too fat to run." --Elbert Hubbard
•"A CONSERVATIVE is one who admires RADICALS a century after they're dead." --Leo C. Rosten
•"CONSERVATIVES say government doesn't work, and then get elected and prove it." --P.J. O'Rourke
•"All CONSERVATISM is based upon the idea that if you leave things alone you leave them as they are. But you do not. If you leave a thing alone, you leave it to a torrent of change." --G.K. Chesterton
•"CONSERVATIVE: a statesman who is enamoured of existing evils, as distinguished from the LIBERAL, who wishes to replace them with others." --Ambrose Bierce
•"Reform is affirmative, CONSERVATISM negative; CONSERVATISM goes for comfort, reform for truth." --Ralph Waldo Emerson
•"The CONSERVATIVE is a businessman's candidate, hovering around the status quo like a sick kitten around a hot brick." --William A. White
•"A CONSERVATIVE is one who believes that nothing should be done for the first time." --Alfred E. Wiggam
•"CONSERVATIVES are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are CONSERVATIVES." --John Stuart Mill
•"We CONSERVATIVES do not believe it necessary, and even if it were, we should oppose it." --Quentin Hogg
•"A CONSERVATIVE is someone who makes no changes and consults his grandmother when in doubt." --Woodrow Wilson
•"Suppose you were a heartless bastard, and suppose you were a CONSERVATIVE, but, .....I repeat myself." --Mark Twain
•"A CONSERVATIVE is a man who will not look at the new moon out of respect for that ancient institution, the old one." --Douglas Jerrold
•"A shiver ran through the CONSERVATIVES, frantically looking for a spine to run up." --Oliver Brown

ULTRA-CONSERVATIVES

•"A FASCIST is someone who kills because he can't argue." --Anon.
•"FASCISM is Capitalism plus murder." --Upton Sinclair
•"Fascism is corporatism." --Benito Mussolini
•"FASCISM means war." --John Strachey
•"The ANARCHIST is responsible only to himself; the FASCIST is responsible only to the state." --Anon.
•"FASCISM is a religion; the twentieth century will be known in history as the century of FASCISM." --Benito Mussolini
•"A FASCIST is any person whose politics elevates the importance of one's nation, or Fatherland, above all humanist values such as television and Spring Break." --Anon.

LIBERALS vs. CONSERVATIVES

•"When CONSERVATIVES ruin the environment, destroy the supply of affordable housing, and wreck the industrial infrastructure, at least they make a buck off it. LIBERALS do these things just for fun." --P.J. O'Rourke
•"The LIBERAL Arts are those studies necessary to be a free person. The opposite of LIBERAL is not CONSERVATIVE, but ENSLAVED." --Anon.
•"A RADICAL is a man who has both feet planted firmly in the air... A CONSERVATIVE is a man with two perfectly good legs who has never learned to walk." --F.D. Roosevelt
•"LIBERALS like Big Government, as long as it helps people. (Social programs, etc.) CONSERVATIVES like Big Government, as long as it kills people. (Cops, armies, etc.) --Anon.
•"I never dared be RADICAL when young / For fear it would make me CONSERVATIVE when old." --Robert Frost
•"Every COMMUNIST has a FASCIST frown, every FASCIST has a COMMUNIST smile." --Muriel Spark
•"A SOCIAL DEMOCRAT believes that all men are equal, as long as they are union members, while a CHRISTIAN DEMOCRAT believes that all men are equal, as long as they are Catholics." --Anon.
•"I'm a staunch Independent. Every time I think I am a Republican, they do something greedy, and every time I think I am a Democrat, they go and do something stupid." --Jay Leno
•"The difference between REPUBLICANS and DEMOCRATS is like the difference between Syphilis and Gonorrhea." --Barbara Jordan
•"The smart woman will fuck a LIBERAL but marry a CONSERVATIVE." --Anon.

“When asked why he was a Democrat, the Southerner replies, "Because my father was a Democrat and my grandfather was a Democrat." The Northerner countered, "What if your father was a horse thief and your grandfather was a horse thief, what would you have been then?" The Southerner's reply: "In that case, I guess I'd be a Republican." --Theodore Roosevelt

TELLING THE DIFFERENCE

•An American who wants to protect the environment is a Tree-Hugging LIBERAL, unless they hunt animals, in which case they're CONSERVATIVE.
•An American who supports the right to keep and bear arms is CONSERVATIVE, unless they belong to the Black or Brown or Yellow Panthers, in which case they are dangerously RADICAL.
•An American who opposes large military forces and expenditures is LIBERAL, unless they lived before 1940, in which case they were CONSERVATIVE.
•An American who wants religious faith to be prominent in public life is a staunch CONSERVATIVE, unless they aren't a Judeo-Xian-Muslim believer, in which case they are an air-head NEW-AGE RADICAL.
•An American who wants government oversight of private decisions is LIBERAL, unless they oppose abortion, in which case they are religious RIGHT-WING RADICALS.
•An American who wants lower income-tax withholding is CONSERVATIVE, but one who wants lower social-security withholding is LIBERAL.
•An American who supports equality for women is a LIBERAL Feminist, unless they're a Republican campaign consultant who wants their candidate to win, in which case they're a Pragmatic CONSERVATIVE.
•An American who supports their local police is CONSERVATIVE, unless the local police are dealing drugs, in which case they're LIBERTATIAN.
•An American who believes "the least government is the best government" is either a LIBERTATIAN CONSERVATIVE or a RADICAL ANARCHIST, depending on their dress and income.

GENERALIZATIONS

•Those who care about people before they are born are CONSERVATIVES; those who care about people after they are born are LIBERALS.
•Those who believe in a strong military are PATRIOTS, unless they've personally avoided military service, in which case they are CHICKENHAWKS.
•Those who want strict limits to immigration are CONSERVATIVES, unless they want to exclude your particular ethnic group, in which case they are RACISTS
•Those who want unlimited immigration are LIBERALS, unless they want cheap labor to exploit, in which case they are CONSERVATIVE CAPITALISTS. Or if they want purple cows to inflate, in which case they are SURREALISTS.
•Those who want to display the Ten Commandments in public places are CONSERVATIVES; but different sects can't agree on just which version to use. And then there are those who want the QURAN or DIAMOND SUTRA or NECRONIMOCON posted...
•Those who believe in a corporate state are FASCISTS, unless they back the current administration, in which case they are PRAGMATISTS.
•Those who disagree with you are COMMUNISTS, unless you're a COMMUNIST, in which case they are FASCISTS. Or unless you're an ATHEIST, in which case they're RELIGIOUS FANATICS. Or unless you're a VEGETARIAN, in which case they're CARNIVORES. Et cetera.

“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” —H.L. Mencken

 

[underguy1]

Blah, blah, blah

What a trite load of shit.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

Nicholas Kristof posed an interesting question in the New York Times

Could you imagine Hillary Clinton saying or doing any of the things that Donald Trump has done or said ?

Hillary Clinton sliding herself up to a young stranger in public, pulling his zipper down, and shoving her hand into his open fly and grabbing his penis ?

Would the young man's friends encourage him to brush the assault off ?
Tell him that everyone knows she is a creepy old woman ?

 

[1sickbastard]

I'm on MY SIDE.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Which side are you on?

Our father was a union man some day I'll be one too.
The bosses fired daddy what's our family gonna do?
Come all you good workers good news to you
I'll tell of how the good old union has come in here to dwell.

Which side are you on?
Which side are you on?

My daddy was miner and I'm a miner's son
And I'll stick with the union 'til every battles done.

They say in Harlan County there are no neutrals there
You'll either be a union man or a thug for J.H. Blair

Oh workers can you stand it?
Oh tell me how you can will you be a lousy scab or will you be a man?
Don't scab for the bosses don't listen to their lies
Us poor folks haven't got a chance unless we organize

 

[BotanyBoy]

I'm on MY SIDE.