Writing scenes you have no experience with

[sexartfan]

Jimmy Buffett once said in song, "don't try to describe a KISS concert if you've never seen it."
That's how I feel sometimes when trying to write stories. Don't go looking for any of mine here. I removed them.
I prefer non-cons and particularly non-cons involving middle aged women with a little bit of puritan in them.
But have been trying my hand at the craft again. In my current effort, a younger man is being paid to date an older woman and as he gets "further" with the MILF, he earns more pay. The focus is on humiliation and control.
I am at a scene set in a modern western dance hall where the protagonist has been working to get his "date" under the influence and finally she starts dancing with other men and lets her inhibitions down some as the drink flows. Finally, she ends up with several guys off the dance floor and one or two of the cowboys are having a little more fun with the MILF. At this point the protagonist questions the men and it comes up to the rest of the guys want the woman to pull a train.
My question, can a woman be under the influence enough where she will say yes to anything?
As in, "Honey, these guys all want to fuck you, are you OK with pulling a train?" And with some encouragement from the other men, she nods yes.

 

[StillStunned]

My question, can a woman be under the influence enough where she will say yes to anything?
As in, "Honey, these guys all want to fuck you, are you OK with pulling a train?" And with some encouragement from the other men, she nods yes.

It's fiction. It's your story, your character. As long as you write her state of mind as plausible, readers of the genre will accept it. Other readers might not, but that doesn't matter. There are enough of them to share.

 

[PapaRomantic]

I think your own common sense has to come into play. Be bold with what you write, which helps sell the premise of the story.

BUT...

Before I wrote anything about the cuckold lifestyle, I corresponded with some of the men on here who love that fetish and were more than willing to answer any questions I had about it. I got so much information from one gentlemen that I ended up using him and his wife in one of my stories to honor his willingness to help me learn and at least try to understand what the fetish is all about. This fetish is not appealing at all to me, so this was my way to learn about it.

I know there are women on here that would have your story topic on their own personal fantasy list. Read through the threads and you'll be able to find some of them, and then send them a private message, stating what your goal is. I think you'll get women that will be willing to help you.

Good luck!

 

[Britva415]

can a woman be under the influence enough where she will say yes to anything?

Probably.

Does that make it consensual? Is "consensual" what you're going for?

In the situation you described, her "yes" isn't because she's impaired, it's because she's impaired and being pressured by many men.

 

[sexartfan]

Probably.

Does that make it consensual? Is "consensual" what you're going for?

In the situation you described, her "yes" isn't because she's impaired, it's because she's impaired and being pressured by many men.

In my view the "yes" is agreeing to something but she probably has no real clue of because of her state. Essentially agreeing to anything. The protagonist might feel this gives him "plausible deniability" in his own conscious or maybe just because her agreeing was "witnessed" by others. He's setting her up and he likes the idea she "agreed' to the idea of being set up.

 

[Noor]

I think it’s very rare that a woman would do that, but often guys would think they would.

I think it’s best to write about what you know esp with sex, inexperience is usually blatantly obvious.

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

Jimmy Buffett once said in song, "don't try to describe a KISS concert if you've never seen it."
That's how I feel sometimes when trying to write stories. Don't go looking for any of mine here. I removed them.
I prefer non-cons and particularly non-cons involving middle aged women with a little bit of puritan in them.
But have been trying my hand at the craft again. In my current effort, a younger man is being paid to date an older woman and as he gets "further" with the MILF, he earns more pay. The focus is on humiliation and control.
I am at a scene set in a modern western dance hall where the protagonist has been working to get his "date" under the influence and finally she starts dancing with other men and lets her inhibitions down some as the drink flows. Finally, she ends up with several guys off the dance floor and one or two of the cowboys are having a little more fun with the MILF. At this point the protagonist questions the men and it comes up to the rest of the guys want the woman to pull a train.
My question, can a woman be under the influence enough where she will say yes to anything?
As in, "Honey, these guys all want to fuck you, are you OK with pulling a train?" And with some encouragement from the other men, she nods yes.

Go for it. I ventured into forced feminization, serious BDSM with slavery, and even pet training in The Art of Reconstruction. I got rave reviews in the comments with one detractor saying the MC didn't fight for his masculinity hard enough and one supporter bemoaning that: "The pet training part could be longer and more detailed..."

Both were fair comments. Point is, I didn't have a clue about that world when I started. I just let my imagination go and looked a bunch of stuff up on the internet...

I might suggest, since your story in non-con, maybe introduce a little 'help', perhaps some X or Molly to help her decide. I'm not a huge fan of that level or type of 'persuasion', but I've seen it done, so...

Good luck.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Jimmy Buffett once said in song, "don't try to describe a KISS concert if you've never seen it."
That's how I feel sometimes when trying to write stories. Don't go looking for any of mine here. I removed them.
I prefer non-cons and particularly non-cons involving middle aged women with a little bit of puritan in them.
But have been trying my hand at the craft again. In my current effort, a younger man is being paid to date an older woman and as he gets "further" with the MILF, he earns more pay. The focus is on humiliation and control.
I am at a scene set in a modern western dance hall where the protagonist has been working to get his "date" under the influence and finally she starts dancing with other men and lets her inhibitions down some as the drink flows. Finally, she ends up with several guys off the dance floor and one or two of the cowboys are having a little more fun with the MILF. At this point the protagonist questions the men and it comes up to the rest of the guys want the woman to pull a train.
My question, can a woman be under the influence enough where she will say yes to anything?
As in, "Honey, these guys all want to fuck you, are you OK with pulling a train?" And with some encouragement from the other men, she nods yes.

First of all, it's your choice, but maybe you should leave existing stories in place. That way, you'll always have a reminder of where you've been and how how you got to where you are now. Some of my older stories still seem pretty good, while others were disappointing. But it helps to still have the votes and comments there, and then compare them to what I thought I had done.

After six years, I got a bit better at describing some things that I don't have first-hand experience at. I wouldn't try the Byzantine Empire as a setting, but I did try 1903 St. Louis with a young woman narrating (yes, that one). I had a good time writing that, and I just made up what I thought plausible for the time and place. Anyway, don't try to describe a Jimmy Buffet concert without having seen it. (I did see it once.)

 

[PennyThompson]

My current chapter involves a human cis-male who needs to save the last member of a dying alien species -- who looks like a glowing telepathic Corpse Flower -- by impregnating her pistil with his genetic code...

So there's a lot there that I don't have direct experience with

A couple of times I've chatted with "subject matter experts," for some elements of stories where I want to be as sensitive or realistic as possible, that can be really rewarding!

Other times I think you just have to go for it, using equal measures of common sense, empathy, and imagination!

 

[glynndah]

For every reader that thinks that couldn't possibly happen, you may get several more that think maybe not, but wouldn't it be sexy if it did.

{I've been here quite a while and I don't remember that blood oath I signed upon joining requiring complete verisimilitude for each and every story. Things could have changed, though.}

 

[Pabiporffor]

Jk Rowling never flew on a broomstick before she wrote Harry Potter. That's the beauty of the human mind, you don't have to directly experience something to understand it.

 

[VerbalAbuse]

Emma tightened her grip on the ticket in her hand, her heart pounding with excitement as she shuffled forward with the crowd. The air outside the arena was electric—fans in black leather, platform boots, and painted faces roared with anticipation. Some had the Demon’s menacing glare, others the Starchild’s star over one eye. Emma had never been to a KISS concert before, but she had spent hours perfecting her own Catman-inspired makeup in the mirror.

Inside, the lights dimmed, and the collective roar of the crowd swelled into a deafening cheer. A voice boomed over the speakers:

"You wanted the best, you got the best! The hottest band in the world—KISS!"

A blast of fire erupted from the stage, and suddenly, they were there. Gene Simmons, towering and monstrous, flicked his tongue as Paul Stanley strutted to the mic, his voice dripping with energy. Tommy Thayer’s guitar screamed through the speakers, and Eric Singer pounded the drums like a thunderstorm.

Emma’s breath caught in her throat. This wasn’t just a concert—it was a spectacle. Fireworks exploded, confetti rained down, and the floor beneath her seemed to tremble with every bass note. When Gene stepped forward, eyes glowing red, and began spitting blood before launching into a guttural bass solo, Emma realized—she wasn’t just watching a show.

She was part of it.

 

[MrPixel]

I think it’s very rare that a woman would do that, but often guys would think they would.

I have IRL experience with this. What I can tell you, it's unlikely to happen with just alcohol, unless the woman has a predilection for rowdy, unrestrained sex. A "conservative" MILF is not going to be it simply by compromising her inhibitions. She'd be more likely to pass out before much happened, and that gets into another issue altogether.

Back in the 1980s, this type of scene would be more likely in the presence of drugs, particularly cocaine. That and eventually Ecstasy would enhance sexual desire while at the same time lowering inhibitions.

 

[VerbalAbuse]

Jk Rowling never flew on a broomstick before she wrote Harry Potter.

how do you know that? got any evidence?

 

[SimonDoom]

George Lucas made a billion dollars or more writing and directing a movie, having never experienced wookies, light sabers, or the force. JRR Tolkien never met a hobbit. Jane Austen died a spinster at 41 but wrote novels that brilliantly treated the subject of marriage and male-female relations in England in her time.

Go for it. Write what you want and don't worry about your experience with the subject.

Experience matters, but imagination matters more.

 

[Pabiporffor]

Yeah, the kids all do it wrong.

 

[TiberiusPrime]

Jk Rowling never flew on a broomstick before she wrote Harry Potter. That's the beauty of the human mind, you don't have to directly experience something to understand it.

If you've seen "Bewitched", you seen someone on a broomstick... Just sayin'.

 

[Cagivagurl]

Jimmy Buffett once said in song, "don't try to describe a KISS concert if you've never seen it."
That's how I feel sometimes when trying to write stories. Don't go looking for any of mine here. I removed them.
I prefer non-cons and particularly non-cons involving middle aged women with a little bit of puritan in them.
But have been trying my hand at the craft again. In my current effort, a younger man is being paid to date an older woman and as he gets "further" with the MILF, he earns more pay. The focus is on humiliation and control.
I am at a scene set in a modern western dance hall where the protagonist has been working to get his "date" under the influence and finally she starts dancing with other men and lets her inhibitions down some as the drink flows. Finally, she ends up with several guys off the dance floor and one or two of the cowboys are having a little more fun with the MILF. At this point the protagonist questions the men and it comes up to the rest of the guys want the woman to pull a train.
My question, can a woman be under the influence enough where she will say yes to anything?
As in, "Honey, these guys all want to fuck you, are you OK with pulling a train?" And with some encouragement from the other men, she nods yes.

You asked a question, and I will offer my opinion...
Can a woman become drunk enough to agree to something she obviously doesn't believe in???
The answer is simple... "No." Women do not turn into sluts because they had a drink....
It's not just women, you could say men... The answer would be the same.
At some point she might become so drunk she doesn't know what's happening. But if she is puritanical, and still capable of thought and reasoning. The answer is "no."
Alcohol might make her less strict in her thinking, but it won't change her mind.
She would have to be virtually unconscious, and unable to respond...
Of course, then it would be rape...

You asked for an honest opinion. You're writing fantasy, so anything's possible in that world. If you wanted your story to be plausible, then it would never work. The reality is, women are human beings and capable of thought. They are intelligent, and strong. They don't need to be sluts.

Cagivagurl

 

[jaF0]

I've never tried ScFi, until today

I know for sure it will crash and burn.

 

[PennyThompson]

I've never tried ScFi, until today

I know for sure it will crash and burn.

Ooh where is it? Link please!

 

[jaF0]

Ooh where is it? Link please!

Listen Saturday for The Scream Of The Butterfly

 

[Pabiporffor]

The question has to be asked, if you don't have any experience in a sex act you're writing about, what's stopping you getting it? For example if you're a guy wanting to improve your descriptions of blow jobs from a female point of view, why not hook up with a gay guy just the once. As they say "suck it and see." Don't give me any of that ,"I'm not gay," crap. I'm not a vegan but I still eat salads.

Truth is there's no sexual act out there you can't find someone to help you with if you just ask around nicely.

 

[NuclearFairy]

The question has to be asked, if you don't have any experience in a sex act you're writing about, what's stopping you getting it? For example if you're a guy wanting to improve your descriptions of blow jobs from a female point of view, why not hook up with a gay guy just the once. As they say "suck it and see." Don't give me any of that ,"I'm not gay," crap. I'm not a vegan but I still eat salads.

Truth is there's no sexual act out there you can't find someone to help you with if you just ask around nicely.

But a lot of the thrill of writing or reading a blowjob from the female perspective is the emotions behind it, and if you're not into the guy you're giving the blowjob to they just won't be enjoyable emotions. So yeah a guy saying, "I'm not gay," is a totally legit reason to not go give a blowjob so he can learn about the giving side of it.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Another women are stupid scenario. But some are, so have fun with it.

 

[sexartfan]

Another women are stupid scenario. But some are, so have fun with it.

Hoping to go more for the seduced/deceived/humiliated/coerced approach by two no-qualms culprits.