I think that people that can't follow the facts should be booted out of the country, or at least not be allowed to vote.
If you want to get closer to the truth, follow the money.
96% Of U.S. Climate Data Is Corrupted
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If you want to get closer to the truth, follow the money.
For once I agree with you. However...
Sadly, your version of "The Facts" involves....basically whatever Trump says is true, regardless of whether it is, in fact, actually true. Which is exactly the problem. There are people desperately cling to fiction and debunked falsehoods because they WANT them to be true, not because they are true- and you appear to be one of those people.
I desperately want human caused global warming to be a myth. I don't WANT it to be true. But I'm not stupid, and I'm not naive, and I'm not going to waste my time spewing out debunked nonsense on an internet forum trying to "prove" that it's not true. Because only a fool believes global warming isn't real. It's like trying to pretend that the days aren't getting longer in late Spring in northern Canada. You can listen to whatever crackpot pseudo-scientist you want to back up your warped version of reality, but sooner or later you will have to face the truth.
Sadly, your version of "The Facts" involves....basically whatever Trump says is true, regardless of whether it is, in fact, actually true. Which is exactly the problem. There are people desperately cling to fiction and debunked falsehoods because they WANT them to be true, not because they are true- and you appear to be one of those people.
I desperately want human caused global warming to be a myth. I don't WANT it to be true. But I'm not stupid, and I'm not naive, and I'm not going to waste my time spewing out debunked nonsense on an internet forum trying to "prove" that it's not true. Because only a fool believes global warming isn't real. It's like trying to pretend that the days aren't getting longer in late Spring in northern Canada. You can listen to whatever crackpot pseudo-scientist you want to back up your warped version of reality, but sooner or later you will have to face the truth.
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If you open, for example, Google maps you can see the extent to which humans have altered their environment. Forests turned to fields, suburbs, roads, 'concrete jungles', etc. If you believe that this change has no influence on the temperature measured at almost ground level, I have a lovely bridge to sell you.
Now is the temperature wrong? No because it measured what actually happened. I have no issues with the datasets but when they started with computer simulations, I just had to disagree. The whole story went off track with the co2 hype and should have been about reducing pollution in air, sea and land. The original idea was to make life better, not to turn us against ourselves.
Now is the temperature wrong? No because it measured what actually happened. I have no issues with the datasets but when they started with computer simulations, I just had to disagree. The whole story went off track with the co2 hype and should have been about reducing pollution in air, sea and land. The original idea was to make life better, not to turn us against ourselves.
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Why shouldn't the data be corrupted?
Thanks to the publish or perish educational/research paradigm, nothing put out can be taken without a grain of salt.
It's a carryover from childhood in an infantilized culture, "But mom, EVERYONE was doing it..."
Thanks to the publish or perish educational/research paradigm, nothing put out can be taken without a grain of salt.
It's a carryover from childhood in an infantilized culture, "But mom, EVERYONE was doing it..."
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Should we also be required to wear a yellow star? Get numbers tattooed on our arms?
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It's true I was just up there for a couple of weeks last year. They laugh at all of the young dummies that are in a panic the glaciers are all but gone.
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They won't read the articles on it or really look and see, so I guess your contacts there can feel free to dismiss the reality happening right under their noses. No doubt they'll still be laughing when they're up to their knees in melted glacial water.
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More is on the way.
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Why do you guys keep saying this stupid, stupid shit? It really cheapens what happened in Germany when you compare it to private industry taking control of its product. They won't do it any how but you really and truly make yourself look like a piece of shit.
It's because Deplorables love to portray themselves as "the real victims here". I think too many years of Rush Limbaugh convinced them that women, blacks, gays, trans, foreigners, scientists, and smart people are out to get them.
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Yeah but I'm not even Jewish and wouldn't joke about THAT. I might compare what happened to the Jews to what (last I checked) was happened to Muslims in China. What's worse I'm usually pretty good at figuring what someone's motivations. Cus I hardly see or even saw earlier about what's going on and how bad things are. Are we mostly keeping quiet because of Ukraine and we cannot start shit with China right now or is it just the nation collectively doesn't care.
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You know, honestly, the reason you don't honestly give a fuck if the world goes to shit, and bury your head in the sand and actually laugh at the environmental destruction around you, is probably because you won't be around on this earth for much longer to experience it.
(Hopefully, anyway.)
That's the thing with a lot of the older generation who are selfish and greedy; they can just reap and destroy, fuck the planet, since they won't live to experience the consequences of their choices. The younger generation will, however. And that's why I applaud the efforts of activists like Greta Thunberg, and the millenials who are fighting to repair the damage that selfish assholes like you seem to be so passionate about causing.
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The only reason they might laugh is they do live in a Red State that absolutely hates science and truth and eventually it will destroy their lives. At this point however I'm finding it increasingly difficult to care about Right Wingers. You're hatred of the Left and a better life is stronger than your love for your children.
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Coati said it best. Because they've been doing this stunting shit off actual past oppressions outside of them since forever:
it also makes them feel as if they're clever when they do it. Literally making a dance out of "see what I did there?"
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How is it that you cannot see that what you're doing/saying is the same thing with different words/social pronouncements?
Or maybe it's that you do see and like the view?
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Damn those Jews... I mean deplorables...
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They laugh at your ignorance and susceptibility to the propaganda of the superstitious bed-wetting Greta Thunberg's of the world. They laugh at how she's fucked up the economics of half of Europe with her nail-biting BS.
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Please link to proof of propaganda.
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Well it is a social pronouncement. I'm not saying its okay but white people call other white people rednecks and not in an affectionate way. This is a long, long way from trying to exterminate a RACE it cheapens the argument. I honestly have to be concerned that you and others are basically saying calling someone a redneck is comparable to genocide. I've spent decades paying attention to politics and its getting worse. I can easily see someone with real charisma convincing people that Obama wanted them to take the Fauci ouchie. Yeah I know he wasn't president even if these are the most extreme members of the right there are people asking where Obama was on 9/11. And then let the good times roll.
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We're certainly keeping quiet about the lack of democracy in Ukraine, the corruption in Ukraine, and the reasons why Ukraine cannot meet the five requirements a country must meet in order to join Nato:
- a functioning democratic political system based on a market economy;
- the fair treatment of minority populations;
- a commitment to the peaceful resolution of conflicts;
- the ability and willingness to make a military contribution to NATO operations; and
- a commitment to democratic civil-military relations and institutional structures.
^^^Another stupid reference that not so subtly infers Deplorables are suffering the same level of historical victimization as Jews. Deplorables are constantly whining about "reverse discrimination" from the groups that had to fight like hell for their right to even exist.
This comment and an earlier reference to the Holocaust are a form of thinly-veiled antisemitism.
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