A letter from "anymouse"
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No. But correct and re-submit.
I found this on the feedback portal over the weekend while I was traveling and saved it.
This comment(I did not list the author's name and I blocked out where they mentioned the name of their stories so it doesn't seem as if I am plugging someone.)
This comment is what we "normal" anymouses who are not trolls are looking for and can respect. An author who asks for feedback and accepts all of it.
This comment was in a category I will not read in, but I went and looked at the feedback and there are some crappy comments and all still there.
This is not someone who whines about scores and insults, but just does their thing.
<i>Some feedback for my feedback
I rarely post my own remarks here because I feel it unfairly "pads" the number of comments on an authors story especially when they reply to all of them. But want to "pop in" and say a couple of things.
I appreciate all the flattering remarks and nothing gives me a bigger thrill than seeing my repeat fans keep following my work.
I also appreciate the people who "defend" me to negative comments but...
Understand everyone is entitled to their take and more importantly I specifically request feedback meaning I take bad with good.
@ Corey, saying the story was boring is your opinion, but as for "non-taboo" I'm thinking you stopped during the opening sequence between Ricky and his girlfriend. As I said in my authors note. I build things up. The mom's aren't fucking in paragraph two of my stories.
To the couple of remarks on the typos. You are correct, although my grammar is never perfect this one was a mess. After the first remark something dawned on me and I went back and realized I submitted the incorrect draft that had not been fully edited. Carelessness on my part.
To "Scratching" Thank you for the long comment. I already addressed grammar, but as for this not being one of my best? Opinions will always vary, but know what? You are right. Not all stories are created equal. You referenced XXXXXX and that story was certainly one of my best and my most difficult and really set a high bar.
If an author worries "will this one be as good or better?" we will stop writing. Some will always be better than others and every reader has different takes. For example XXXXX is one of my favs of my work but its the lowest scored of all my XXXX work. It had a dark feel to it and that is what I enjoy.
I try to mix things up. But I appreciate your remark because whether you liked this or not your mentioning of my high standards shows you're a true fan and that's why you took this time. And personally I do feel this one had a rushed feeling to it, it was previously published in an anthology with other authors and had a word limit. I hope you find the next one more to your liking.
Thank you all for your remarks good and bad-even the guy who said this was my worst, because trust me, it's not LOL- and let me point out the comment by XXXXX. He is also an author here and has penned a couple of pretty good XXXX tales, Check him out.</i>
And this is what we like to see, someone who can accept a remark that isn't equating them to a literary god and even appreciate it.
When constructive criticism is erased it says two things. One, why should we comment? Especially when the person who erases the remark is one of the writers begging for comments, and two, thin skinned and egotistical doesn't even begin to cover it when someone can only handle "I love you!"
I vote for a third comment option to make some of the writers here happy.
"Please accept only ego stroking, I am the best thing that has ever happened to erotica comments!"
This comment(I did not list the author's name and I blocked out where they mentioned the name of their stories so it doesn't seem as if I am plugging someone.)
This comment is what we "normal" anymouses who are not trolls are looking for and can respect. An author who asks for feedback and accepts all of it.
This comment was in a category I will not read in, but I went and looked at the feedback and there are some crappy comments and all still there.
This is not someone who whines about scores and insults, but just does their thing.
<i>Some feedback for my feedback
I rarely post my own remarks here because I feel it unfairly "pads" the number of comments on an authors story especially when they reply to all of them. But want to "pop in" and say a couple of things.
I appreciate all the flattering remarks and nothing gives me a bigger thrill than seeing my repeat fans keep following my work.
I also appreciate the people who "defend" me to negative comments but...
Understand everyone is entitled to their take and more importantly I specifically request feedback meaning I take bad with good.
@ Corey, saying the story was boring is your opinion, but as for "non-taboo" I'm thinking you stopped during the opening sequence between Ricky and his girlfriend. As I said in my authors note. I build things up. The mom's aren't fucking in paragraph two of my stories.
To the couple of remarks on the typos. You are correct, although my grammar is never perfect this one was a mess. After the first remark something dawned on me and I went back and realized I submitted the incorrect draft that had not been fully edited. Carelessness on my part.
To "Scratching" Thank you for the long comment. I already addressed grammar, but as for this not being one of my best? Opinions will always vary, but know what? You are right. Not all stories are created equal. You referenced XXXXXX and that story was certainly one of my best and my most difficult and really set a high bar.
If an author worries "will this one be as good or better?" we will stop writing. Some will always be better than others and every reader has different takes. For example XXXXX is one of my favs of my work but its the lowest scored of all my XXXX work. It had a dark feel to it and that is what I enjoy.
I try to mix things up. But I appreciate your remark because whether you liked this or not your mentioning of my high standards shows you're a true fan and that's why you took this time. And personally I do feel this one had a rushed feeling to it, it was previously published in an anthology with other authors and had a word limit. I hope you find the next one more to your liking.
Thank you all for your remarks good and bad-even the guy who said this was my worst, because trust me, it's not LOL- and let me point out the comment by XXXXX. He is also an author here and has penned a couple of pretty good XXXX tales, Check him out.</i>
And this is what we like to see, someone who can accept a remark that isn't equating them to a literary god and even appreciate it.
When constructive criticism is erased it says two things. One, why should we comment? Especially when the person who erases the remark is one of the writers begging for comments, and two, thin skinned and egotistical doesn't even begin to cover it when someone can only handle "I love you!"
I vote for a third comment option to make some of the writers here happy.
"Please accept only ego stroking, I am the best thing that has ever happened to erotica comments!"
sr71plt
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Well, yes, we know NEMouse is you, LC. You just couldn't help picking up one of your own comments on one of your stories and reposting it here to puff yourself up, can you? You just can't help blowing your own trumpet, can you? 
And I'll bet you think you're so clever. You can be a lot of fun in your hypocrisy, though.
(I must say that I think you are getting crazier about issues such as this by the minute. You do realize this is a free-use reading site don't, you? Not a critique site or a writing school. I also must say that you're no idea of a writing professional as far as I'm concerned. So, no, I don't give two hoots for your writing advice.)
And I'll bet you think you're so clever. You can be a lot of fun in your hypocrisy, though.
(I must say that I think you are getting crazier about issues such as this by the minute. You do realize this is a free-use reading site don't, you? Not a critique site or a writing school. I also must say that you're no idea of a writing professional as far as I'm concerned. So, no, I don't give two hoots for your writing advice.)
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The bit about writers not commenting on other writers stories is category specific, I believe. Some of the most prolific commenters in the LW category are other authors. Even some pretty darn good and top rated ones. Romance category as well. Incest, group sex, not so much. Just my general observation.
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For good or bad, and despite your bile, Amicus wrote good erotic fiction. I guess you're just jealous of the number of red 'H''s he got that you can't come close to.
He was an asset to the forums and the file of stories.
A few thoughts to the anymouse rant and a few connected ideas.
Sometimes anymouse comments are good, they're helpful because I'll admit sometimes people will be more honest with them than with something attached to even a really bad login name.
On the reverse side--most of my stories are non-consent. One or two of my stories graze the "okay with it in the end" bounds of the rape story rule here very, very closely. So seeing someone come into that category and say "Nasty and sick. No matter what, rape is rape. A very nasty story, left a bad taste in my mouth." get's a little tiring and speaks of trolling. About the only way you could get worse is going into the Gay Male section and start adding rants in comments that homosexuality is wrong.
As for RileyGirl's thoughts, I don't always comment on stories I read--I presume like many here that I sometimes don't like where a story is going and just stop reading without making it to the end. If a story is really inspiring, or with a clever twist and is getting negative feedback, I'll gladly step up and encourage the author. I remember reading a N/C story recently about a dorm shower rape where one of the commenters went off on how unrealistic it was--well of course, it's a fantasy story, sometimes you just have to suspend disbelief and enjoy it for what it is.
Sometimes anymouse comments are good, they're helpful because I'll admit sometimes people will be more honest with them than with something attached to even a really bad login name.
On the reverse side--most of my stories are non-consent. One or two of my stories graze the "okay with it in the end" bounds of the rape story rule here very, very closely. So seeing someone come into that category and say "Nasty and sick. No matter what, rape is rape. A very nasty story, left a bad taste in my mouth." get's a little tiring and speaks of trolling. About the only way you could get worse is going into the Gay Male section and start adding rants in comments that homosexuality is wrong.
As for RileyGirl's thoughts, I don't always comment on stories I read--I presume like many here that I sometimes don't like where a story is going and just stop reading without making it to the end. If a story is really inspiring, or with a clever twist and is getting negative feedback, I'll gladly step up and encourage the author. I remember reading a N/C story recently about a dorm shower rape where one of the commenters went off on how unrealistic it was--well of course, it's a fantasy story, sometimes you just have to suspend disbelief and enjoy it for what it is.
I'm entirely new to the forums and so I don't really have much of an idea of who is who (although from this thread, I can get a very good idea of who doesn't like whom).
That said, anymouse makes some good points that, if they came from a better-liked writer, would probably have been appreciated. I earn my living by my keyboard, and I must say that the criticism I have received through the years has helped me grow as a writer far more than any butterflies or sunshine blown up my backside.
Writers tend to have extremely thin skin. After all, we've put our souls on display for the world to examine, and if they don't like what they see, it's a very real slap in the face. Thickening your skin and accepting that not everyone will like you (and that's not always a bad thing) are essential for growing and developing.
Again, not defending the OP who may or may not have engaged in questionable practices. Just popping in with my 2 cents' worth (and kind of expecting to get slammed over it).
That said, anymouse makes some good points that, if they came from a better-liked writer, would probably have been appreciated. I earn my living by my keyboard, and I must say that the criticism I have received through the years has helped me grow as a writer far more than any butterflies or sunshine blown up my backside.
Writers tend to have extremely thin skin. After all, we've put our souls on display for the world to examine, and if they don't like what they see, it's a very real slap in the face. Thickening your skin and accepting that not everyone will like you (and that's not always a bad thing) are essential for growing and developing.
Again, not defending the OP who may or may not have engaged in questionable practices. Just popping in with my 2 cents' worth (and kind of expecting to get slammed over it).
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I retired from a legal/psychiatric world where judges liked one style of writing and mental health hid behind something altogether different. So what pleased his honor pissed off your boss, in most cases. The trick was writing opinions that were clear and concrete yet unimpeachable. Much of the time mental health cant stand scrutiny, and you gotta learn how to make your writing grow a thick hide lawyer-alligators cant bite through. It makes the judges job so much easier, they like that, and it builds your reputation with them (tho your boss hates you).
I find that fiction writing is the same kettle of fish. The better kind of reader prefers prose that's honest and powerful and illuminating, and the rest want shit to whine about; the better sort of reader will cut you some slack for kissing Homer Simpsons ass, while Homer will try to hurt you for writing your best.
This is yet another reason why I tend to read in the SciFi/Fantasy and the Nonhuman categories.
Because you don't really read them unless it actually interests you.
I admit it; I'm a geek -- I don't want a regular romance. I want something with a large-scale story behind it. With Nonhuman, you need to set the lore, so you're obligated (in a good story) to create a background. The same is true in SciFi.
And I'm not really that picky about what I read. I don't really care if it's hetero or homo, though I prefer hetero because I can relate.
I don't read stories on here for the sex, crazy though that may sound; I actually read them for the stories.
So to all the people out there who only read these things to jack off/schlick off to:
GO READ HENTAI.
Chances are much better that you'll find it more to your liking, as many of them barely have a story to speak of -- they're just SEX, SEX, SEX (not that it's a bad thing). It leaves the authors here with people who genuinely want to read their stories, and it also leaves the trolls.
Not much you can do about trolls though.
(And I'm sure I'm gonna be flamed for this. So be it. Someone had to say it.)
Because you don't really read them unless it actually interests you.
I admit it; I'm a geek -- I don't want a regular romance. I want something with a large-scale story behind it. With Nonhuman, you need to set the lore, so you're obligated (in a good story) to create a background. The same is true in SciFi.
And I'm not really that picky about what I read. I don't really care if it's hetero or homo, though I prefer hetero because I can relate.
I don't read stories on here for the sex, crazy though that may sound; I actually read them for the stories.
So to all the people out there who only read these things to jack off/schlick off to:
GO READ HENTAI.
Chances are much better that you'll find it more to your liking, as many of them barely have a story to speak of -- they're just SEX, SEX, SEX (not that it's a bad thing). It leaves the authors here with people who genuinely want to read their stories, and it also leaves the trolls.
Not much you can do about trolls though.
(And I'm sure I'm gonna be flamed for this. So be it. Someone had to say it.)
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So to all the people out there who only read these things to jack off/schlick off to:
GO READ HENTAI.
Chances are much better that you'll find it more to your liking, as many of them barely have a story to speak of -- they're just SEX, SEX, SEX (not that it's a bad thing). It leaves the authors here with people who genuinely want to read their stories, and it also leaves the trolls.
Not much you can do about trolls though.
(And I'm sure I'm gonna be flamed for this. So be it. Someone had to say it.)
I'm not going to flame you, but I will remind you that this site is for erotica
Telling people they should leave literotica if they want sex is kinda out there, sorry 
autoplot
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I'm not so sure...
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This is yet another reason why I tend to read in the SciFi/Fantasy and the Nonhuman categories.
Because you don't really read them unless it actually interests you.
I admit it; I'm a geek -- I don't want a regular romance. I want something with a large-scale story behind it. With Nonhuman, you need to set the lore, so you're obligated (in a good story) to create a background. The same is true in SciFi.
And I'm not really that picky about what I read. I don't really care if it's hetero or homo, though I prefer hetero because I can relate.
I don't read stories on here for the sex, crazy though that may sound; I actually read them for the stories.
So to all the people out there who only read these things to jack off/schlick off to:
GO READ HENTAI.
Chances are much better that you'll find it more to your liking, as many of them barely have a story to speak of -- they're just SEX, SEX, SEX (not that it's a bad thing). It leaves the authors here with people who genuinely want to read their stories, and it also leaves the trolls.
Not much you can do about trolls though.
(And I'm sure I'm gonna be flamed for this. So be it. Someone had to say it.)
If I recall Hentai and manga correctly a lot of what is in there would break lit's rules.
there's hardcore rape and everyone of those girls (and boys) looks twelve.
Lit has a good mix, but sometimes it takes a while to find the writers who deliver whatever you're looking for.
I try to cut down on trolling by stating up front in my stories that I take my time building the story up before I get to the hot stuff and if you like a quick stroke then I am not for you.
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I like that you often add notes at the beginning of your stories telling people what they're in for. I've been considering doing that myself.
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Wow that got a lot of response. The difference is, anymouse, that even if we use a nom de plume, at least the author can respond. Positive, helpful criticism should be able to be discussed. Perhaps in your initial response, you missed a nuance that the writer included, or are you infallible. it would be nice to be able to tell you, "look, you missed, such and such".
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I was rated at 2.5 by a reader who said I was the best writer on Literotica in the same comment??? go figure. I strongly suspect that anymous or anonymous is really James B. Johnson who seems to enjoy pissing people off for the fun of it. Check out his own thread and you will get an idea of his style.
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oops, maybe I was wrong,i see James B. dissing dumb asses who comment as anonymous. I sincerely apologize for that. My complaint about anonymous comments is that they leave no avenue for back and forth. That is what useful criticism is about. How can we improve if there is no back and forth. Inshort, they wish to comment to inflate their own egos, but are cowards who won't be confron ted about heir opinions. I sincerely hope all my posts do not have to be edited, since I take them as conversation.
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Of course writers want their egos stroked,and of course I am my favorite author, lol, but that doesn't mean I can't read someone else's work and comment, which i occasionally do. The problem is, there are so many stories and it is so hard to find good ones. If i have read it all the way through, then it must be good. On this site, at least the erotic part,you can get good marks from me for content, style, , originality, etc. But for my money, the real test of an erotic story is: Did it give me a hard on? That is not as easy as it once was. Truly if I have to count the "that"s, the "and"s , the "justs" etc. I usually quit reading.
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It's impossible for a reader to log in a 2.5 rating.
Also, I doubt JBJ runs around voting down stories. Up until he started posting stories here himself (very recently) he ran Lit. stories down in general on the forum but showed little evidence he actually read (or voted) in the story file. Since posting stories to Lit., he's followed the time-worn "scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" technique of posting on the forum that he's read (and he usually shows he did read) the stories of others and given them 5s.
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I will sometimes comment under my name if I already know the author, but most of the time my comments(and I remark on every story I finish.) is anonymous.
I do it because mainly if my comment is not overly glowing I don't need their fans (or them) bombing my stories and I also don't want to give the impression I'm looking for "Hey check out my work" attention or as someone just said a "mutual back scratching session"
In general I have no issue with anonymous being a jerk. I've said for a long time and the OP(ass that I know him to be) stated it,
We are all anonymous here. It's no braver to call me an asshole under "Member#12" than it is from anonymous.
And the amount of threads bitching about anymouse and bad scores etc do prove that many here are a lot thinner skinned than they want people to believe.
I do it because mainly if my comment is not overly glowing I don't need their fans (or them) bombing my stories and I also don't want to give the impression I'm looking for "Hey check out my work" attention or as someone just said a "mutual back scratching session"
In general I have no issue with anonymous being a jerk. I've said for a long time and the OP(ass that I know him to be) stated it,
We are all anonymous here. It's no braver to call me an asshole under "Member#12" than it is from anonymous.
And the amount of threads bitching about anymouse and bad scores etc do prove that many here are a lot thinner skinned than they want people to believe.
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I strive to be me. No masks, no pulled punches, no deceit. That said, sometimes I say whatever pops into my head expecting that someone will immediately correct my ignorance; its a sneaky way to get at things quickly. I learned it from Columbo.
