a sub forum! A SUB forum

THROBBS, Eves_Paradise, Kim_vegas, et al

This is getting to be more interesting!

Hello, erotic art creators--especially THROBBS, Eves_Paradise, and KIM_vegas--thank you for the quick and positive reply and reactions to my ramblings.

I'm glad I am not paddling alone here, trying to navigate still waters and thus, help foster a great place and opportunity for us--the artist/writers with dual and exceptional talents and skills in our creative expressions and explorations. (Did I say BI? Not quite, but do your thing, man--this is a free country--ha-ha!)

To the battle ahead then, if you're all ready to accept the challenges of rendering quality and integrity to this humble beginning of a place. Through sorting, screening, and scanning using our cumulative sincere intentions, art experiences, and creative examples, we can honestly "polish" what were to be submitted here in "Literotica Illustrated", as per Eves_Paradise's good and simple suggestion. Temporary or not, it sounded and looked better!

So, to answer specific points raised by THROBBS re:
1. "Heck, it does hurt a bit to hear criticism. (even the writers feel it)."

Art is so fucking subjective. In any art contest where a bunch of experienced guys and dolls sat to give their choices for the best entries, there will ALWAYS be protests against the chosen winners, with criticisms on the basis of judging, relevance of entries, etc. In short, artists and writers are SENSITIVE individuals who can get easily hurt, offended, and well, become quite abusive when defending their beloved works.

All of our creations are our "babies"--produced with love, care, and excellent attention--and for it to be degraded, criticized, and rebuked only by a panel of "pretencious" judges/editors who never saw the outstanding merits, as always, or knew better, the decisions hurt, right? Name-calling surely follows close at the heels later.

That said, I think most writers here are adult enough to accept written critiques of their art. In school, students may have drastic reactions--even close to tears when they received their highly criticized and poorly rated projects, but they have a chance to learn even though the hard way before the course is over. Some may not survive and that's the downside as you lose students, but on the other hand, they will realize and know that they CANNOT be true ARTISTS.

For the remaining rest--the survivors willing to stay and accept the challenges--the fruits come later in their professional life. Same here, either accept posts of mediocre works of art, thrive in below average galleries, increase popularity of the site like Deviant Art--or, earn the respect and accolades of those who truly were touched by the eroticism of the submitted pieces.

Of course, the critiquing will be in words and not drawn over or corrected on the artwork, which would mean two things and both are negatives: insulting for the artist to draw over his/her work, and spoon feeding, showing him/her where the errors were and not allowing the fellow to find and see it for him/herself.

2. "...is as much a pick up joint as anything."

That little flirting thing will always be present where a group of males and females, bis and gays and lesbians congregate, which is to say, unavoidable. And since this is a popular site for the unabashed enjoyment of one's sexuality and its accompanying deviant, perverted, or impure urges--ha-ha to the religious among us, dressed in sheep's clothing!--which all normal human beings possessed, the act is tolerable. Like I said, we are all adults here--free, responsible, and with an acceptable sanity rate to stay here and be a member--ha-ha!

Eves_Paradise mentioned a very valid and lucrative point somewhere in her posts, something about publishing comics, collaborations, etc., which will all prove profitable to both artists, writers, and the site. But only if "Literotica Illustrated" showcase or display some quality art to "advertise" itself as a visual erotic playground.

I know it will take time to achieve any of these wonderful promises, but aren't we all dreamers?
 
This is getting to be more interesting!

Hello, erotic art creators--especially THROBBS, Eves_Paradise, and KIM_vegas--thank you for the quick and positive reply and reactions to my ramblings.

I'm glad I am not paddling alone here, trying to navigate still waters and thus, help foster a great place and opportunity for us--the artist/writers with dual and exceptional talents and skills in our creative expressions and explorations. (Did I say BI? Not quite, but do your thing, man--this is a free country--ha-ha!)

To the battle ahead then, if you're all ready to accept the challenges of rendering quality and integrity to this humble beginning of a place. Through sorting, screening, and scanning using our cumulative sincere intentions, art experiences, and creative examples, we can honestly "polish" what were to be submitted here in "Literotica Illustrated", as per Eves_Paradise's good and simple suggestion. Temporary or not, it sounded and looked better!

So, to answer specific points raised by THROBBS re:
1. "Heck, it does hurt a bit to hear criticism. (even the writers feel it)."

Art is so fucking subjective. In any art contest where a bunch of experienced guys and dolls sat to give their choices for the best entries, there will ALWAYS be protests against the chosen winners, with criticisms on the basis of judging, relevance of entries, etc. In short, artists and writers are SENSITIVE individuals who can get easily hurt, offended, and well, become quite abusive when defending their beloved works.

All of our creations are our "babies"--produced with love, care, and excellent attention--and for it to be degraded, criticized, and rebuked only by a panel of "pretencious" judges/editors who never saw the outstanding merits, as always, or knew better, the decisions hurt, right? Name-calling surely follows close at the heels later.

That said, I think most writers here are adult enough to accept written critiques of their art. In school, students may have drastic reactions--even close to tears when they received their highly criticized and poorly rated projects, but they have a chance to learn even though the hard way before the course is over. Some may not survive and that's the downside as you lose students, but on the other hand, they will realize and know that they CANNOT be true ARTISTS.

For the remaining rest--the survivors willing to stay and accept the challenges--the fruits come later in their professional life. Same here, either accept posts of mediocre works of art, thrive in below average galleries, increase popularity of the site like Deviant Art--or, earn the respect and accolades of those who truly were touched by the eroticism of the submitted pieces.

Of course, the critiquing will be in words and not drawn over or corrected on the artwork, which would mean two things and both are negatives: insulting for the artist to draw over his/her work, and spoon feeding, showing him/her where the errors were and not allowing the fellow to find and see it for him/herself.

2. "...is as much a pick up joint as anything."

That little flirting thing will always be present where a group of males and females, bis and gays and lesbians congregate, which is to say, unavoidable. And since this is a popular site for the unabashed enjoyment of one's sexuality and its accompanying deviant, perverted, or impure urges--ha-ha to the religious among us, dressed in sheep's clothing!--which all normal human beings possessed, the act is tolerable. Like I said, we are all adults here--free, responsible, and with an acceptable sanity rate to stay here and be a member--ha-ha!

Eves_Paradise mentioned a very valid and lucrative point somewhere in her posts, something about publishing comics, collaborations, etc., which will all prove profitable to both artists, writers, and the site. But only if "Literotica Illustrated" showcase or display some quality art to "advertise" itself as a visual erotic playground.

I know it will take time to achieve any of these wonderful promises, but aren't we all dreamers?

yes yes yes! great points Goblin.

and thank you for going for "Literotica Illustrated" lol.. i'm sure whatever name they come up with a future official forum for artists and illustrators, i'm sure it will be just as good, if not moreso lol. it's just kinda catchy and takes after "Sports Illustrated" and we all know what that is all about lol..

as for your last point about comic/graphic novel publishing... yes, that's what i'm hoping too because as far as i understand, some of the members here have already gotten their works published... dont know if they're making anything off of it, but i would suspect that's the case and it really don't matter with me. if it takes off, as im sure it would, it would be good for everybody. the point is, they are doing what they love doing, and if it's true they're making some kind of living off of it (or at least contributes a little to the artist's income), then that's great for the artist and the publisher. that's all good.

because for amateur noobs at comic book publishing and distributing like me, even though i want to test and start it myself, i don't have that vast network and connections yet that Literotica has. so these things came up in my mind, and i was thinking "what if Literotica does with illustrated work what they are now already doing with written work?" so essentially, if that happened, Literotica will have their own comic book publishing division and will probably have to compete with the likes of Eros, again the publishers of the cult-popular "Housewives at Play" and "Hot Moms" series... and other adult-geared comic book publishing companies. so at least their portfolio is diversified.

heck i could even think of Literotica comic book/graphic novel apps on iPhone and Android lol.

anyway, just my $0.02. great points as usual Goblin.
 
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Hi, Eves_Paradise!

I can feel the excitement level rising for those of us really serious about this, i.e., going illustrated and all. But here's a thought, although a bit rebellious at this point and with all due respect to THROBBS, Manu, and Laurel, but which I failed to add before:

You're familiar with Blogger.com? I've read that it was created to allow people to publish and not just blog, with whatever works they think they're proud of: from photos, poems, essays, arts, collections, hobbies, crafts, etc.

IF Literotica will not have the initiative or interest to develop the Literotica Illustrated Board, then we can still do it by posting links here referring to OUR INDIVIDUAL pages in blogger.com--as a Literotica Group. We maintain a healthy relationship with Literotica who will obtain for us the necessary traffic, and our works will be displayed better, access faster, and viewed NOT ONLY by Lit members, but by casual erotic art browsers.

Jeez, I'm threading hot waters here but I do not want to miss the opportunity of bonding/joining with a group of individuals who do not only write erotica but draw/illustrate them too. I do not feel so alone anymore in my endeavor to do comics, write short stories, do a serial, and ultimately publish a printed novel. Truth is, I feel energized and inspired that I will polish some more my artworks before posting any in my blogger page.

Also, I am not sure about this, but we can exchange opinions re artworks comments through email attachments: cleaner and faster time management. What do you think? A NO would not disappoint me...Just a thought, really.

More power to Literotica Illustrated!
 
This is getting to be more interesting!


All of our creations are our "babies"--produced with love, care, and excellent attention--and for it to be degraded, criticized, and rebuked only by a panel of "pretencious" judges/editors who never saw the outstanding merits, as always, or knew better, the decisions hurt, right? Name-calling surely follows close at the heels later.

That said, I think most writers here are adult enough to accept written critiques of their art. In school, students may have drastic reactions--even close to tears when they received their highly criticized and poorly rated projects, but they have a chance to learn even though the hard way before the course is over. Some may not survive and that's the downside as you lose students, but on the other hand, they will realize and know that they CANNOT be true ARTISTS.

For the remaining rest--the survivors willing to stay and accept the challenges--the fruits come later in their professional life. Same here, either accept posts of mediocre works of art, thrive in below average galleries, increase popularity of the site like Deviant Art--or, earn the respect and accolades of those who truly were touched by the eroticism of the submitted pieces.


Such words of wisdom can only be realized with 'experience' of being 'there' .. :devil:
 
Thanks a million for the sharp dissection, Kim_vegas...

You've unveiled the mask, and now I must bury my head again from the hubris of respectable hypocrisy to try and forget my religious, inhibited past--ha-ha!

Stay safe on your Harley!
 
Is it new that the Visual Arts Corner is now listed on the main page I.E. Literotica Discussion Board » Main Literotica Forums? We may be a sub forum on the A.H. but we're listed on the very TOP there -- and we have our own heading in the Main Forums page. Not bad, not bad at all!! :D
 
I am sure illustration is not top of Laurel & Manu's priority list, but they seem to be aware and making some effort and progress.
 
Yay!

Thank you!

(I hope I did not screw things up for everyone, by pestering :D )
 
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Me too!
periodic assessments show that there are already more people viewing this forum at any given time. Not HUGE numbers, but still numbers. I think it will take some time to build up, to anything significant.

Then more efforts to coax the lurkers out.;)
 
Congratulations, THROBBS--you did it!

After all the efforts you poured to have a more prominent space in the Lit Discussion Board, it was indeed a surprise to see THE VISUAL ARTISTS CORNER just below AUTHORS' HANGOUT materialized.

Be posting soon, and all the best to the active participants!
 
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