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[Captain Midnight]

A few ideas on the subject

I didn't read all the posts all the way through (I'd be here for hours if I did), and I may be parroting a lot of things said here, but I would like to put in a couple pennies worth of opinion.

I stumbled onto this site last month. Don't ask me how; I don't remember -- probably a link from another erotic stories site. I got started on reading a multi-family getaway at a resort which vaugely resembled the one in Dirty Dancing. Darn if I can find it now. There was an incest page where brother and sister took various boyfriends and girlfriends and made for a happy group of lovers. I see one like that now, but I don't think it's the same story.

Then I happened on the Tropic of Eros series as it was just starting. Thought it was the best series since sliced bread when it started, but I've read some of the later chapters (which aren't posted yet; they are available in Rich Text format on the author's Website), and my opinion has gone downhill. One of my pet peeves is that authors will start a story with no clear idea how it ends. See the (mainstream) comic For Better Or For Worse. Already in Tropic of Eros, we've had two women deported from the island because they were rat's back ends personality-wise. A third, who would cal herslf a slut with no compunctions, is hanging on by her fingernails. One of the two deportees was hardly developed at all character-wise -- she trash-talked some otf the others and got a one-way ticket home without ever sleeping with the guy! Another, the innocent virgin of the bunch, a truly sweet girl at the start, turns into an extreme S&M freak (with the one who's just barely hanging on), then viciously tries to blackmail an otherwise-nice woman who has a crush on her. And then we learn, out of nowhere, that she had her hymen sewn back into place! My God, it sounds like a remake of "The Bad Seed," where a morl mother learns that genetically her daughter is already a psycho killer and is going to get worse (there is lots of typeface devoted to the young lady's hardscrabble life) As of the end of Chapter 21, it looks like the narrator (who isn't really very smart) is going to choose the right woman after all, a friend of his from college who set this whole thing up -- leaving the remaining four women in limbo. I scratch my head over that. In the introductory chapters of the story, the author makes it clear that his character (the guy he wishes he could be?) has VERY carefully prescreened them for personality -- after all, he has seven women out on an island in the Pacific Ocean and all he really wants to do is marry one of them. This guy isn't thinking with his brain and he's not thinking with his sex organs EITHER. I actually wrote the author and asked to write a parody of the book for publication (no money involved), but I haven't heard back. (He responded to one of my earlier letters, pointing out a blooper I had made.) If I want stories that go nowhere and contradict character development, I can read the mainstream comic strip For Better Or For Worse.

Now, a few words about the incest stories. I'm in my 40s now, and I can promise you I didn't know ANYTHING about pleasing a woman, so I tend to agree about the immaturity of the characters. The eigtheenth birthday is not a magic wand. You can vote, you can go to war, but how does that make you any different from what you were yesterday? Or for that matter, how qualified are you at 21 to drink, have children, and so on? Everybody grows up at a different pace. I dated an 18-year-old young lady who thought she was sophisticated, many years ago. Neither of us were anywhere NEAR grown up. The relationship wouldn't have broken up in such painful fashion if we had. Now I date a woman 11 years younger than me (in fact, a few months younger than the other girfriend), and I have serious doubts over what she can handle.

Finally, I would give a big thumbs-down to the NonConsent and BDSM stories. Tropic of Eros is feeding me a pretty big diet of BDSM (among many other things, including sappy soap opera), and I just don't swing that way. Sure, keep them -- I'm doing exactly what I have a right to do in complaining about them -- but I hope I don't find anybody who likes them.

Thanks for listening.

 

[Robert Kincaid]

Shazam!

Great thoughts, Captain Midnight! And IMHO the originator of this thread (Touch my tush?) presented the case for reality and correctness in writing in a logical way. When I suggested a spell checker for the forum, it was not my intention to make Dr. M? defensive but to add a simple thought that the forum correspondents need help sometimes. Anyway, I searched the internet (CNET Download) and found ieSpell for MS Internet Explorer. So I downloaded it and now I can check my spelling without crimpling spontenaity (however its spelled.)

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Re: Shazam!

When I suggested a spell checker for the forum, it was not my intention to make Dr. M? defensive but to add a simple thought that the forum correspondents need help sometimes.

No offense taken, and believe me I know. And you haven't seen anything until you see one of my posts where I leave entire words out by mistake. What I need is a logic checker.

By the way, I haven't seen you guys here before, and would just like to say hello.

---dr.M.

 

[Captain Midnight]

Good to get feeback!

Glad to read both of these postings. I didn't know what kind of replies I would get.

Writing an erotic story is a lot more difficult than it appears to be, IMHO. But if you can't write an erotic story, how good will you be at writing a "straight" story? Since I'm not female, I probably can't know what their wants and desires are. I sure didn't know until I met the woman I'm dating now. I used to read erotic stories in books and magazines and chuckle at them, thinking they were the products of superheated male egos. Sometimes I DID find them erotic, very erotic, because the characters seemed to know what they were doing (i.e., what I wanted to do in those situations). I've also found that in certain situations people of both sexes can loosen up and do some things which would seem impossible -- talk dirty during sex when I am very proper about my language at all other times; try different sexual positions, and even just "take" my girlfriend, which I thought would be flatly impossible. Maybe those stories aren't such fantasies after all.

I wonder if there is a strong Puritan ethic in a HUGE percentage of the population of this country -- for that matter, many other countries, name one that DOESN'T have it. People don't get all they would like out of sex because neither partner thinks the other(s) would want to try some things. Is that story material?

Again, thanks a lot.

 

[Gary Chambers]

I only had to read this thread as far as Black Tulip's first (perhaps only) post. Black Tulip got it right. Writers want their stories read. If the public stops reading the writer changes course to match the market. I agree with all the humanistic principles in the original post, even if I think implementing that kind of censorship across the board would be hard to do and a civil rights disaster if achieved. I think the best solution is Black Tulip's, when you find something offensive just stop reading. There are many stories and poems on this site, so no one needs to confine themselves to a type they find repulsive. And analplayplease, while I am sympathetic to your concerns, the truth is I have always disliked anal intercourse. I don't think it's very healthy. But I think this is the first time I've ever gone public with that. I consider it a matter of each to his or her own. No offense intended, but this does show how different people really are from each other. Welcome to the monkey house (apol. to K. Vonnegut).

 

[KillerMuffin]

Most of the people who submit stories are not writers and they have no interest in being writers. They're here to share their fantasies.

Should someone who isn't an author be barred from posting their stories because the writing is less than we might like? If they don't have an interest in becoming better writers, should they just not post stories?