Attention all gun-rights advocates

[Christobal]

No, it is entirely sensible to think that because you can't win nobody should fight -- which has nothing to do with the thread topic anyway; the thread topic is about why you can't win.

America's freedom is preserved by a political culture that values it, not by armed citizens putting fear into public officials. We have freedom because we all agree to want it.

I would basically agree with that. Voting is the first best choice. Always. Even if you hate the outcome you live with until the next election. Maybe it makes you grumpy but you can deal with it till the next election.

 

[Christobal]

But they easily could have. The Continental Army could have fought even in the (highly unlikely) event none of its troops had their own muskets at home.

I am not buying the argument that they could have but they didn't.

 

[JawnKarTurr]

But they easily could have. The Continental Army could have fought even in the (highly unlikely) event none of its troops had their own muskets at home.

Your understanding of history is blinded by your lack of logic. You don't understand the Revolution or military history. You're a troll and the only ones who agree with you are people who are anti-gun and close minded.

Here is a simple task for you. Look at all the truly repressive nations. Not the ones liberals think are repressive, but ones run by tyrants. Look at their gun control policies.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Here is a simple task for you. Look at all the truly repressive nations. Not the ones liberals think are repressive, but ones run by tyrants. Look at their gun control policies.

See post #3.

 

[JawnKarTurr]

See post #3.

Wow you are an idiot. That policy was put in place by the United States military after arriving. Previously firearms were restricted to weapons for hunting and self defense purposes. Nice try though. Also many of those fighting ISIS right now are Iraqi militia not organized and armed by their government. They helped turn the tide.

Mexico recently armed citizens fought of drug dealers where police protection was weak....the list goes on.

 

[BotanyBoy]

No, I think they attack government buildings and forces, which draws attention.

Only at the very end when they've won.

Otherwise it's all hit and run/PR fuck fuck games.

Get pop shots in, IED's, hit and run ambushes.....they never go toe to toe.

That's how you wind up on the bidniz end of an A-10 or an AH-64, and one of those fuckers will kill EVERYTHING.

He seems to think the military would not uphold their sworn duty to protect the constitution from both foreign and domestic.

Everyone but all the white males who are all white supremacist and born oppressors is clearly a justice democrat that will gladly march into battle and slaughter their fellow Americans, friends and families to enforce KO's communist paradise upon the masses.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I wish to remind you of something that you should know very well, but often appear to talk as if you have forgotten:

You do realize, don't you, that your guns are politically useless?

Your guns are good for self-defense, home defense, hunting, target shooting, hobby-collecting, and of course you can use them for crime. And that's all. End of list. You cannot use them to defend your "freedom" in any politically meaningful way. You cannot use them to fight the state with any hope of success. The state always wins that firefight. You could conceivably use them to fight those you consider political opponents, but that falls under the heading of crime. There are no "Second Amendment solutions" to political grievances, none at all.

Oh, when the people turn on the government, we'll have tanks too...


Fucking Moron.

You learned nothing from the election. When you keep shitting down the backs of the deplorables, you're shitting on your source of military strength. That's why your arguments about the relevancy of the Democrat Party as it is currently constituted are delusional, at best.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

See post #3

No, it hasn't.



In Hussein's Iraq, every household had an AK-47. It didn't matter. "Oh, you have a rifle? Good for you. The army has rifles, machine guns, tanks, artillery, helicopters, organization, training and discipline. Now shut up and pay your taxes."

False equivalency.

First off, you cannot prove the basal premise, that every household had an AK-47.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Perhaps he looks at this using the weasels he knows as examples.


Comrade Molotov taught us how to drink . . .


and what to do with the dead soldiers . . . .

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I think he's terrified of that which he knows little of and lets his imagination run wild...

 

[RobDownSouth]

A steel penis substitute embiggens the smallest sissy boi.

#PewPewPew
#Wolverinesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
#ButButBEARS

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Yep . . .


and speaking of which . . . .


Roots of a tumble weed . . . .

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

As long as the heads of the Democrat Party keep thinking like KO, they're going to be wandering the desert for years sans a Moses...


Barack Hussein Obama is no Moses.

 

[RichardBentwood]

Bet there were 9 million Jews who wished they had guns in 1939.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Bet there were 9 million Jews who wished they had guns in 1939.

If they had had them, they still would have gone to the camps.

 

[OldJourno]

Can you seriously imagine any scenario where guerilla warfare with small arms would succeed in overthrowing the U.S. Government, or even pressuring it into changing its policies? No, you can't.

Can you seriously imagine an uprising against Washington that would not have at least some military support?
We're not talking about some pissed off Bubbas. This would be about a whole lot of average Americans who decide they have had enough.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Can you seriously imagine an uprising against Washington that would not have at least some military support?

Easily, because rank-and-file support is irrelevant. No Army unit joins the rebels unless its officers decide to, and the officers never will, they are all very thoroughly indoctrinated in the importance of the military's absolute subordination to civil government.