big pussy lips or small oens?

female genital mutilation (aka female circumcision) is not a practice mandated by islam. it is a cultural practice found usually in african and middle eastern countries.

Yes, nowhere in the Q'aran does it state that males and females must be circumcised but it is still an excuse given for why it is done to both males and females.
 
Uh, just removing the hood is bad enough, but, from what I've read, they remove the whole damn clitoris. It is done with a razor, or even a sharp rock. Not the neatest, most precise surgery. THAT is how they keep the women from cheating.

There are four different types of female genital mutilation. Type I and II account for approximately 80-85% of all female genital mutilation although it can vary greatly from country to country. Type I is classified as amputation of the clitoris. Type II while varying considerably commonly involves amputation of the clitoris and the labia minora are partially or totally removed.

It is done under unsterile conditions, but that is besides the point, it shouldn't be done at all.

There are so many justifications given for circumcising men and women. Cleanliness, aesthetics, religion, sexual reasons, custom, conformity, greed but all of them defy logic and reality. It is a circle of victimization.

All of which is why so-called female 'circumcision' is a bit different than what is done to men.

FEMALE MALE

Cutting? YES YES
Of the genitals? YES YES
Of babies? NO YES
Of children? YES YES
Without consent? YES YES
At parents' behest? YES YES
Removing erogenous tissue? YES YES
Supposedly beneficial? YES YES
Justified by aesthetics? YES YES
Justified by supposed health benefits? YES YES
Justified by religion? YES YES
Justified by sexual effects? YES YES
Justified by custom? YES YES
Justified by conformity? YES YES
Effects minimised by its supporters? YES YES
Performed by its adult victims? YES YES
Extremely painful? YES YES
Can cause harm? YES YES
Very severe damage? USUALLY SOMETIMES
Can cause death? YES YES
Legal in Western countries? NO YES


Even if the more severe types of female circumcision are worse then what is done to males; does that make it any worse? It is still the removal of healthy, sexual tissue for both sexes. There are varying degrees of circumcision for both male and female and the end result is that both harm, not help.
 
Circumcision for a guy is the removal of a small bit of skin


Circumcision does not remove a small amount of skin. The average male foreskin, spread out, in area, would be about 15 square inches. This doesn't even take into consideration that infant circumcision, all methods considered, remove about the equivalent of the length of the penis of the baby.This leaves the whole thing shortened. Not only is the foreskin amputated, but a good amount of shaft skin as well.
This leads to painful erections because there is no skin to help support an erection and it also causes scrotal skin to pull up on the shaft causing hair to grow on the shaft of the penis.

Not only is it a large quantity of skin that is removed but also the quality of skin. The foreskin has thousands of highly specialized nerve endings. It contains the frenar band which is the primary erogenous zone of the male body. It contains thousands of fine touch Meissner corpuscles which is an important sensory component. The frenulum is generally amputated along with the foreskin.

The amount of tissue that is removed from the penis is almost exactly the amount removed in female circumcision and they are removing the same sort of thing. Male circumcision is equal to the removal of the clitoral hood and the labia minora. It is the same amount of tissue.
 
gogonslord said:
Circumcision does not remove a small amount of skin. The average male foreskin, spread out, in area, would be about 15 square inches. This doesn't even take into consideration that infant circumcision, all methods considered, remove about the equivalent of the length of the penis of the baby.This leaves the whole thing shortened. Not only is the foreskin amputated, but a good amount of shaft skin as well.
This leads to painful erections because there is no skin to help support an erection and it also causes scrotal skin to pull up on the shaft causing hair to grow on the shaft of the penis.

Not only is it a large quantity of skin that is removed but also the quality of skin. The foreskin has thousands of highly specialized nerve endings. It contains the frenar band which is the primary erogenous zone of the male body. It contains thousands of fine touch Meissner corpuscles which is an important sensory component. The frenulum is generally amputated along with the foreskin.

The amount of tissue that is removed from the penis is almost exactly the amount removed in female circumcision and they are removing the same sort of thing. Male circumcision is equal to the removal of the clitoral hood and the labia minora. It is the same amount of tissue.

I'm not circumcised and...

...first of all, there's no friggin' way my foreskin is 15 square inches. I admit that I'm not hung like John Holmes, I have a more or less average 6.5" cock, but still, 15 inches seems like a little much. Although mine doesn't cover the head of my penis completely.

...second, if my foreskin contains thousands of Meissner's copuscles or whatever, that are supposed to be an important sensory component, they better realise that really soon and start delivering me some goods during sex, because so far in the 15+ years that I've been doing it, not one of them bothered to do so! In fact, I much prefer to have the foreskin pulled back, for which purpose I love cock rings and similar toys.
 
PrettyKitty427 said:
i know plenty of men with their foreskins who are just as clean if not cleaner. on the lips thing..i don't know if mine are big or small but i wouldnt change them for the world.

Well... can we see them? ;)
 
The vulva, like the rest of the female body, can come in a wide range of variation. Labia minora can be almost non-existant to extremely full and large. This definition, Minora, implying smaller or lesser is misleading and completely improper. 2/3 of women's labia minora extend beyond the labia majora.


You can absolutely see, when something is so wrong and twisted, with society, that women have no understanding of their anatomy and question the normalcy of their genitals. How can one except to, when raised in an ignorant society still plauged by a puritanical belief that genitals are shameful, surrounded with guilt and repressed? I am so overwhelmed by the sheer level of posts made on sexuality boards by teenagers not having even a basic understanding of their own anatomy and now with great concern, I see more and more women posting about how their labia's are "too large" or "unnattractive". Ignorant society, greedy doctors and low self-esteem are fueling these new surgeries that claim to correct a problem when all they are really doing is feeding off of womens insecurities.

You can put any name you want behind it, but it is what is and labioplasty is a mutilation of completely normal and healthy skin.

Women need to see past this social absurdity and appreciate one of the greatest gifts that they have; their sexuality. Be proud of your vulva, it is a piece of art, whatever way it comes and don't allow any doctor or beauty standard to tell you there is something wrong with it.
 
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...first of all, there's no friggin' way my foreskin is 15 square inches. I admit that I'm not hung like John Holmes, I have a more or less average 6.5" cock, but still, 15 inches seems like a little much. Although mine doesn't cover the head of my penis completely.


Well, your penis size doesn't have anything to do with it, it would really only be dependant on the length of your foreskin. You need to understand that there is an inside and an outside to the foreskin. If this were to be unfolded and laid flat it would be about 15 to 20 squre inches. Here is an image to help explain it.



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...second, if my foreskin contains thousands of Meissner's copuscles or whatever, that are supposed to be an important sensory component, they better realise that really soon and start delivering me some goods during sex, because so far in the 15+ years that I've been doing it, not one of them bothered to do so! In fact, I much prefer to have the foreskin pulled back, for which purpose I love cock rings and similar toys.


It is not just Meissner corpuscles in the foreskin but also encapsulated Vater-Pacinian cells, Merkel's cells, nociceptors, and branches of the dorsal nerve and perineal nerve. What does that mean? These 10 to 20,000 specialized erotogenic nerve endings can feel slight motion and stretch, subtle changes in temperature and fine graduations in texture.
 
shock and awe!

I'm still having trouble translating that animation to how it would apply to my penis, but it does look pretty cool! The fact that you have one alone is enough to shock and awe!

So hey, along the lines of human body being good and pure and right and all, what about the appendix? Or nose hair? ;)
 
I prefer small labia minoras on women. I have pretty small ones myself. As far as the labia majora`s conserned I like them full and thinck.

I also prefer men with natural penises.
In Norway no one sircumcise their children, unless their religion and culture/background says so, or if a boy has a severe problem with a tight forskin.

It`s illegal to have girls circumcised in Norway.
Sadly many girls, espesially young girls form Somalia, are beeing sent to their african relatives to be circumcised.
It`s a serious problem for the norwegian government because theese girls are beeing mutilated in the most terrible ways, and there`s little or nothing anybody can do about it.
 
damn....you all actually notice the difference? i'm just happy a girl lets me see it! or touch it....or lick it....or...well i'll leave it at that :)
 
Middle sized is better

I preper the not big not small one, and natural is the best! :D
 
This is beautiful. I have always wanted to meet a woman with larger major and minor labias. This does turn me on!

Until I can get my disk back with the minor lips....here's a pic of the magors. I jokingly call it puffy purr. LOL
 
I will take an order of large please. Not bright pink either…more on the crimson side. Oh yes, if you just finished that exercise routine, a tongue bath would be in order.
 
I don't know what I prefer really other than saying that I know it when I see it. I haven't been with many girls but some do look better to me than others. On the man side I'm firmly in favour of un-cut. Cut guys look unusual to me and in my experience (obviously not definitive!) un-cut guys have been better in bed. I wouldn't say no to a guy just on that basis or anything though, everyone's different.
 
Well, speaking from a woman' s point of view, I love larger lips. I love to see them peeking out especially when I'm standing. Small is ok too but it makes the girls look too young sometimes. Larger looks more mature. My husband loves my large lips. He adores sucking and pulling on them. Getting wet typing this. Cant wait for tonight so he can do just that. Mmmmmmmm
 
Ummm why should it matter? The lips are just an opening to one small part of a much larger package. I didn't marry my wife because of her pussy lips. I married her because she is special, all of her, not just one small part. :)

Exactly.
 
Small and neat does the trick for me... though to be honest it's not a big deal if they're big. It's all still pretty goooood... :)
 
I absolutely love big puffy outer lips. Every girl I see in tight pants I try to figure out if they are big or not. Almost wish my wife could get them plumped up botoxed or something:)
 
Bigger pussy lips are visually appealing to me. I love seeing them hang between her thighs after removing her underwear then watching them grip my dick as I slide out and then watching them fold back in as I thrust in. I love eating pussy and being able to suck longer lips into my mouth is a great turn on for me.
 
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