Borrowed Plumes: the Fan Fic challenge - support thread

[Rob_Royale]

You'd have to check with Laurel.

Yeah. I'm still waiting on the last time I tried.

 

[Bazzle]

Yeah. I'm still waiting on the last time I tried.

If you *have to check* you already know the answer?

 

[Rob_Royale]

If you *have to check* you already know the answer?

Well last time I tried it was concerning an authors challenge but assume what you want. As far as my Blondie question, I'm not going to bother asking. I'm just going to write it.

 

[StillStunned]

Well last time I tried it was concerning an authors challenge but assume what you want. As far as my Blondie question, I'm not going to bother asking. I'm just going to write it.

To be fair, I think this is one of the few times the question is valid. From your description, it does really seem to fall into a grey area.

 

[AchtungNight]

This author has posted numerous Blondie stories, at least one featuring Cookie- https://www.literotica.com/authors/Photodude2020/works/stories

So there is precedence. I haven’t read them, but good luck.

 

[spiderboi]

I looked this one up because I hadn't actually read the content guidelines before (probably shouldn't admit that, but oh well)

• Celebrity stories or fan fiction in which the characters are artificially aged - that is, under 18 years old in reality or in the source material, but made to be over 18 for the story.

I won't argue the rule, but if the characters age in the source material, should they not be on the table?

For example, I would think the Gaang from ATLA would be fair game since they all aged up in LOK (Aang got so hot, ffs). These are adult characters now, there shouldn't be a problem with them fucking.

 

[Rob_Royale]

I won't argue the rule, but if the characters age in the source material, should they not be on the table.

I would think so.

 

[Husky_Embrace]

I looked this one up because I hadn't actually read the content guidelines before (probably shouldn't admit that, but oh well)

• Celebrity stories or fan fiction in which the characters are artificially aged - that is, under 18 years old in reality or in the source material, but made to be over 18 for the story.

I won't argue the rule, but if the characters age in the source material, should they not be on the table?

For example, I would think the Gaang from ATLA would be fair game since they all aged up in LOK (Aang got so hot, ffs). These are adult characters now, there shouldn't be a problem with them fucking.

I think the question doesn't have a straightforward answer.

It has more to do with perception than actual facts. How do most people perceive the character.

Take superman and many of his fellow heroes. There's cartoons where they are a baby. No one will associate them with their baby form, so there's no one looking for such porn to horn out on minors.

Goku is a more difficult one. He's got a lot of story where he and several others are children. This is how he started. However, most western media hasn't depicted this part of the series. Together with the fact that he's now got much more material where he and friends are grown up, most western people will associate him with an adult.

Harry Potter was mostly a kid. He's aged up at times, but his main modes operandi is "child." An added problem is that children searching for information on the character might accidentally end up on an 18+ site.

I think we can boil it down to:
1. Is the character/IP easily perceived as a minor.
2. Is the character/IP beloved by minors.

Obviously there's exceptions to the rules, or things slip through the cracks. It can also be a business decision, where the risk of sexualising minors, or minors happening on the material, is deemed low enough. From the outside this can look very irregular, which is a reason why people are still looking for good answers. "I can find x story, so it should be allowed" is frequently thrown around here, which is an indicator that there's no clarity.

 

[Areala-chan]

I will have either one or two pieces ready for this challenge. Neither will be erotic in nature, but they will be typical Areala-chan works. Hopefully nobody is reading me just for the sex.

 

[Ian_Snow]

Finally, it's time to unleash my Noid/Mrs. Buttersworth/Kool-Aid Pitcher Man threesome story and claim my rightful spot at the top of the Literotica charts. I'll be unstoppable. OH YEAH!

 

[Rob_Royale]

Finally, it's time to unleash my Noid/Mrs. Buttersworth/Kool-Aid Pitcher Man threesome story and claim my rightful spot at the top of the Literotica charts. I'll be unstoppable. OH YEAH!

I'd read that!

 

[YmaOHyd]

I'd also say that on HP specifically the content guidelines predate Cursed Child, the story where the Harry Potter kids are grown adults with children. You could always write Alchemised fanfic, since that's just Draco/Hermione/Handmaid's Tale fic with the serial numbers removed, but then you'd have to read Alchemised.

On Avatar, I think it might depend on how you presented it -- the Gaang are kids in Avatar, but if you specifically said it's Legend of Korra fanfic, it might fly. Personally I wouldn't try, but I'm not invested in Avatar at all.

 

[AchtungNight]

Given the political climate surrounding JKR, I think it is probably best fanfic based on her work not be included in the event. Sorry, folks.

I’m down for Legend of Korra fics, though. She’s a hot avatar, someone has to deal with it!

 

[NaughteeDragon]

When I inquired about HP fanfic years ago, I got the HARD "No." I would stay away from HP fanfic altogether.

 

[YDB95]

That’s good all the characters in Casablanca will definitely over 18 and even the actors most if not all are long since dead.

Yes, they all are. I remember hearing on the news when the last of them died, in 1999. It was the woman at the bar with the guitar.

 

[YmaOHyd]

When I inquired about HP fanfic years ago, I got the HARD "No." I would stay away from HP fanfic altogether.

Yes, obviously. Just saying that, at the time the policy was decided on there were no appearances of any of the characters as anything other than children, outside the very final pages of the final book, which is a slightly different situation to Aang, who's an adult for four seasons of TV plus a comic series (and maybe a video game?).

 

[Husky_Embrace]

Finally, it's time to unleash my Noid/Mrs. Buttersworth/Kool-Aid Pitcher Man threesome story and claim my rightful spot at the top of the Literotica charts. I'll be unstoppable. OH YEAH!

"Oh Kool-Aid!" she screamed in pleasured agony.
"OH YEAH!" he bellowed as he broke through her hymen.

 

[StillStunned]

What's this ahead of me? A thread? Can I avoid running into it, can I--?

BUMP!

Ow. Oh well, seeing as we're here anyway, how are our stories coming along? I know Borrowed Plumes is still more than 7 months away, but we don't want to be rushed during the summer, do we?

 

[Rob_Royale]

What's this ahead of me? A thread? Can I avoid running into it, can I--?

BUMP!

Ow. Oh well, seeing as we're here anyway, how are our stories coming along? I know Borrowed Plumes is still more than 7 months away, but we don't want to be rushed during the summer, do we?

My story is planned and ready to start. BTW, I started a fan fiction thread in Story Ideas to kick around ideas and hopefully add some interest from outside the AH.

 

[StillStunned]

My story is planned and ready to start. BTW, I started a fan fiction thread in Story Ideas to kick around ideas and hopefully add some interest from outside the AH.

Good idea, thanks for doing that!

Link to the thread for anyone who's interested: Fan Fiction Challenge.

 

[Rob_Royale]

I'm thinking about Tarantino's film Once Upon a Time in Hollywwood. Where he created original characters and inserted them into a setting in the past. Something that really happened to people that really lived. Creating an alternate history.

So if I were to do something similar, say create a fictional main character, an actor, someone young at the cusp of stardom and add them to say ... the filming of Bladerunner, where real actors become supporting characters in my fictional story, is it fan fiction or celebrity or maybe ... neither?

 

[SimonDoom]

I'm thinking about Tarantino's film Once Upon a Time in Hollywwood. Where he created original characters and inserted them into a setting in the past. Something that really happened to people that really lived. Creating an alternate history.

So if I were to do something similar, say create a fictional main character, an actor, someone young at the cusp of stardom and add them to say ... the filming of Bladerunner, where real actors become supporting characters in my fictional story, is it fan fiction or celebrity or maybe ... neither?

I would say neither, unless the real celebrities are a focus of the story.

In Tarantino's movie, the leads are fictional characters, not real celebrities. The real life characters provide a backdrop, but I don't think their presence is enough to make it fanfic.

 

[Rob_Royale]

I would say neither, unless the real celebrities are a focus of the story.

In Tarantino's movie, the leads are fictional characters, not real celebrities. The real life characters provide a backdrop, but I don't think their presence is enough to make it fanfic.

That's what I thought also. It opens an interesting world.

 

[CalBishForNow]

So if I were to do something similar, say create a fictional main character, an actor, someone young at the cusp of stardom and add them to say ... the filming of Bladerunner, where real actors become supporting characters in my fictional story, is it fan fiction or celebrity or maybe ... neither?

I'd say it goes in the Fan Fiction & Celebrities category unless they're very incidental to the plot, or it could go in a "trump" category like T/I. It's about actors, while they're acting, for a well-known Hollywood work; the fact that the main characters aren't real is beside the point.

 

[Rob_Royale]

I'd say it goes in the Fan Fiction & Celebrities category unless they're very incidental to the plot, or it could go in a "trump" category like T/I. It's about actors, while they're acting, for a well-known Hollywood work; the fact that the main characters aren't real is beside the point.

Thanks. But it's a moot point right now. I just talked with my publisher and that sort of thing is never going to fly. So I'll have to come up with orginal characters for the entire story, using them in place of the real celebs. Will likely still write the story.