breath play

[girlofurdreams]

Kissing through a plastic bag you're holding over their head has its merits.

that idea makes me feel like i'm going to pass out... having things covering my face (hands, bags, full-faced masks... pillowcases) is a very hard limit for me... but gagging my mouth or hands around my throat is a completely different story

i can't even wear a full-faced motorcycle helmet, makes me feel like i can't breathe... i have issues - it's hereditary lol

 

[Homburg]

yeah, but it's so much more fun and HOT to have hands around the throat.

*shrug* It's your neck =P

And I never do hands. My paws are large enough that I only need one.

(Note: I do not constrict, but a hand around the throat with light pressure is hot. I just know what my hands are capable of after 25+ years of working on cars, heavy weightlifting, and actual grip training. Not putting my mitts heavily on anyone's throat unless I'm trying to do serious damage)

 

[graceanne]

*shrug* It's your neck =P

And I never do hands. My paws are large enough that I only need one.

(Note: I do not constrict, but a hand around the throat with light pressure is hot. I just know what my hands are capable of after 25+ years of working on cars, heavy weightlifting, and actual grip training. Not putting my mitts heavily on anyone's throat unless I'm trying to do serious damage)

Picky, picky. K doesn't use both hands, either. *shrugs* And we follow the guidelines I mentioned to the OP. On the other hand knife play, while hot, kinda squicks me. It's one of those 'conflicting feelings' things.

 

[FunwithRyleigh]

Please just be very careful. Less than three months ago I buried a friend of over 20 years... he was enjoying some breath play - and it went really wrong....

He was by himself (mistake one) and tied the knot the wrong way (mistake two). He wasn't new to it. He just made some serious mistakes.

Now I have a best friend with no husband and their children have no father.

I'm not saying don't have fun - I'm just warning that it only takes one time of going wrong....

Saddest thing is that so many will only remember him for the way he died, not the incredible way that he lived.

 

[Netzach]

Please just be very careful. Less than three months ago I buried a friend of over 20 years... he was enjoying some breath play - and it went really wrong....

He was by himself (mistake one) and tied the knot the wrong way (mistake two). He wasn't new to it. He just made some serious mistakes.

Now I have a best friend with no husband and their children have no father.

I'm not saying don't have fun - I'm just warning that it only takes one time of going wrong....

Saddest thing is that so many will only remember him for the way he died, not the incredible way that he lived.

This is so horribly sad. I'm sorry to hear about this. This happens far too often and I know a lot of people who know intellectually that they should have a buddy system with this but....sexuality is a very hard to tame beast and even smart good people take hard risks.

If a person is going to do this anyway, may I strongly recommend a stretchy latex band that you can cross over your throat and will UN snap back when you pass out, more likely than things people tend to use.

 

[Homburg]

Picky, picky. K doesn't use both hands, either. *shrugs* And we follow the guidelines I mentioned to the OP. On the other hand knife play, while hot, kinda squicks me. It's one of those 'conflicting feelings' things.

Squicky? Bite your tongue. Watching the breath catch in her throat, the swallowing, the eyelids fluttering, trying not to move because that knife is so very close to..

Yeah, hot.

 

[graceanne]

Please just be very careful. Less than three months ago I buried a friend of over 20 years... he was enjoying some breath play - and it went really wrong....

He was by himself (mistake one) and tied the knot the wrong way (mistake two). He wasn't new to it. He just made some serious mistakes.

Now I have a best friend with no husband and their children have no father.

I'm not saying don't have fun - I'm just warning that it only takes one time of going wrong....

Saddest thing is that so many will only remember him for the way he died, not the incredible way that he lived.

Yikes. *hugs*

Just fyi, I never play solo.

Squicky? Bite your tongue. Watching the breath catch in her throat, the swallowing, the eyelids fluttering, trying not to move because that knife is so very close to..

Yeah, hot.

See? THAT'S when I find it hot, but when it boils down to the moment I squick.

 

[BiBunny]

his beard turns me on.

Oh. Well, that explains it.

Kissing through a plastic bag you're holding over their head has its merits.

Yes, yes, it does.

 

[newexplorer]

ok, that tale has kinda put the kibosh on that for me. its weird, if you had asked me a year ago would i ever do anything like this, it would have been a no, no room for discussion, just no. now i feel awake, more aware of my sexuality, and ready to push my own boundaries. dont ask me to explain why i can stand up for womens rights then enjoy having a man restrict my air supply, its fucked up! slight conflict of interest....

oh, the things we do!!!

 

[unfoundiamond]

Is this gramas house or a BDSM board?

Well the concensus is formed, No Breathplay with choaking out.

I just wanna know if you can't talk about it here where can you? (as everyones all, "bad" and "No") I know everyones being nice and warning the op'er about risk, but... it is a slight redundant.

Maybe that's why everyone is on fetlife, and collarMe and adultMyspace type shit, because maybe on other sites everyones not so Pollyanna,

I mean yes breathplay is dangerous, but the op'er is already doing it, so I personally applaud those who gave other suggestions... because this thread is kinda ruler on the knuckes depressing...

People die everyday, sometimes from much stupider shit than breath play...
You can die taking the subway, and yet, hundreds if not thousands of people do it daily,

I just don't wanna live my life wishing I got off the bench and into the game.

I know people who eat extacsy and choak each other out and have full body orgasms... doesn't mean its a good idea, but is a hell of a lot more dangerous than breathplay...

*is just saying* *no freaking offense people*

 

[graceanne]

The OP asked for our opinions and the known possible consequences. We gave our opinions and the known consequences. If the OP didn't want our opinions she would not have asked for them. I am not going to lie when someone's researching stuff. I don't care how pessimistic it is, life is quite often pessimistic. If you want to talk about making yourself pass out, go ahead, I'm not stopping you. If you want to do it, also go ahead. No sex police on this board.

 

[Netzach]

Well the concensus is formed, No Breathplay with choaking out.

I just wanna know if you can't talk about it here where can you? (as everyones all, "bad" and "No") I know everyones being nice and warning the op'er about risk, but... it is a slight redundant.

Maybe that's why everyone is on fetlife, and collarMe and adultMyspace type shit, because maybe on other sites everyones not so Pollyanna,

I mean yes breathplay is dangerous, but the op'er is already doing it, so I personally applaud those who gave other suggestions... because this thread is kinda ruler on the knuckes depressing...

People die everyday, sometimes from much stupider shit than breath play...
You can die taking the subway, and yet, hundreds if not thousands of people do it daily,

I just don't wanna live my life wishing I got off the bench and into the game.

I know people who eat extacsy and choak each other out and have full body orgasms... doesn't mean its a good idea, but is a hell of a lot more dangerous than breathplay...

*is just saying* *no freaking offense people*

The thing that kills the most people is that. Solo breathplay. Not bondage, not knifeplay, not falls from six inch heels. People are saying "this is fucking dangerous" because it's - really fucking dangerous. There's no argument about that, not even from people I know who DO it.

Find your bliss, just figure out what you're going to do with your kids if you want to do that or drive 100 mph or poke sharks with sticks.

 

[Homburg]

Yeah, silly us giving honest info about breathplay. I mean, it's not like asphyxiation is the number one cause of death in BDSM, right? Oh, wait, yeah, it is. D'oh.

* Edit: I started typing this and walked away from the computer. The Netz posted. Whee. *

 

[graceanne]

It's not called risk aware consetual kink for no reason. Who cares if you want to, but you have to be actually RISK AWARE.

 

[unfoundiamond]

Actually.

Hom you gave other ideas insted of just bland "DON'T DO IT, but I do" I read from several posters or the Don't do it at all, its bad...

I am just saying since no ones a hypocrite but me, I don't wanna say DON'T DO IT (I do)

I think this is like most things something that is personal, and when something is personal and you talk about it, people tend to have differing expiriences and they may share them

I know its shocking, hold your seat.

 

[unfoundiamond]

Please just be very careful. Less than three months ago I buried a friend of over 20 years... he was enjoying some breath play - and it went really wrong....

He was by himself (mistake one) and tied the knot the wrong way (mistake two). He wasn't new to it. He just made some serious mistakes.

Now I have a best friend with no husband and their children have no father.

I'm not saying don't have fun - I'm just warning that it only takes one time of going wrong....

Saddest thing is that so many will only remember him for the way he died, not the incredible way that he lived.

This is things people should post, actual expirience. Not bullshit opinions with no/little life expirience to back them up.

I am not siding either way, just sayin...

Choaking yourself is dangerous, but there are many types of edge play... and many types of dangerous play occur,

Education is more effective and better for society than repression.

 

[FunwithRyleigh]

This is things people should post, actual expirience. Not bullshit opinions with no/little life expirience to back them up.

I am not siding either way, just sayin...

Choaking yourself is dangerous, but there are many types of edge play... and many types of dangerous play occur,

Education is more effective and better for society than repression.

Thanks for that...

I was nervous about posting because I'm very new to this forum, but interested in learning more. When I saw this thread... I couldn't just say nothing.

Please understand - I'm not saying don't enjoy yourself. I'm just asking to be careful.

The death certificate actually says 'Autoerotic Asphyxiation.' I cringe when I think that one day the kids may read that. Again - not how I want them to remember him.

 

[Homburg]

Originally Posted by unfoundiamond
This is things people should post, actual expirience. Not bullshit opinions with no/little life expirience to back them up.

Shooting yourself in the face, setting yourself on fire, jumping off a skyscraper, and eating arsenic are all very different activities, none of which I have any real life experience with. Yet I don't need real life experience to realise that these activities are fuck-all dangerous, nor do I need real life experience to tell other people don't fuckin shoot yourself.

I didn't post it on this thread, but I've posted a link to Jay Weisman's excellent article on breath play on the other three hundred and seventy six threads about this particular path to dain bramage and death. He's got a pantload of experience and education, and he's vehemently against breathplay. I'll link it here if you'd like.

Personally, I'd love to get a sticky on this topic so we won't have the same fucking thread over and over again.

1) I am new and want to know about breathplay
2) Breathplay is dangerous, be careful, young padawan
3) People die from breathplay all the time
4) Breathplay is HAWT!
5) Sure, but at least be aware of the risk
6) STOP REPRESSING MEEEE

Every frikken time. No one on here can tell you to not do what the hell ever gets your rocks off. All they can do is give their opinion. Did someone delete your post, squelch your voice, come to your house and stop you from seeking brain trauma? If not, you weren't repressed, and no one else was.

There are no sex police here, as gracie said. What you will find is a large pool of folks with a collectively enormous pool of experience to learn from. Learn from it or ignore, but don't try to paint those offering advice as repressors.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

Personally, I'd love to get a sticky on this topic so we won't have the same fucking thread over and over again.

1) I am new and want to know about breathplay
2) Breathplay is dangerous, be careful, young padawan
3) People die from breathplay all the time
4) Breathplay is HAWT!
5) Sure, but at least be aware of the risk
6) STOP REPRESSING MEEEE

Seconded.

It's like the 'is my cock too small/curved/thick/thin/long/puss filled etc threads that clutter up the How To Forum. They really should get a 'cock thread for insecure teens' sticky.

The OP asked specifically about risk so I think that a bunch of people going 'this is way cool, go right ahead!' would have been highly irresponsible.

You want to go sky diving? Great! Just be aware that there is the possibility that you could have a heart attack, seizure, stroke or end up nothing more than a stain on the ground. Nobody can give consent to something that they don't understand - first law of medicine. A surgeon will not fix even an ingrowing toenail unless you (or a responsible other) fully comprehend the risks involved and the myriad things that could potentially go wrong, same goes for BDSM and the whole SSC (safe, sane consensual) ethos.

I know the risks of breathplay, even more so because I am epileptic and cutting the O2/blood supply to my brain is even more of a gamble. My Master and I still dabble, because it's hot but we err firmly on the side of caution - as much as one can - and I would never hold him responsible for harming me by doing something that I consented to and probably begged like a bitch for.

Know your risks and take responsibility for the choices you make. The OP wanted to know the risks, now she hopefully has a better idea of the possible consequences of the choices she makes. Everyone's a winner IMHO.

 

[newexplorer]

Seconded.

It's like the 'is my cock too small/curved/thick/thin/long/puss filled etc threads that clutter up the How To Forum. They really should get a 'cock thread for insecure teens' sticky.

The OP asked specifically about risk so I think that a bunch of people going 'this is way cool, go right ahead!' would have been highly irresponsible.

You want to go sky diving? Great! Just be aware that there is the possibility that you could have a heart attack, seizure, stroke or end up nothing more than a stain on the ground. Nobody can give consent to something that they don't understand - first law of medicine. A surgeon will not fix even an ingrowing toenail unless you (or a responsible other) fully comprehend the risks involved and the myriad things that could potentially go wrong, same goes for BDSM and the whole SSC (safe, sane consensual) ethos.

I know the risks of breathplay, even more so because I am epileptic and cutting the O2/blood supply to my brain is even more of a gamble. My Master and I still dabble, because it's hot but we err firmly on the side of caution - as much as one can - and I would never hold him responsible for harming me by doing something that I consented to and probably begged like a bitch for.

Know your risks and take responsibility for the choices you make. The OP wanted to know the risks, now she hopefully has a better idea of the possible consequences of the choices she makes. Everyone's a winner IMHO.

thats all i wanted, a realistic idea of the risks, so i can make an informed decision, obv i knew it was dangerous, but wanted to know a few more specifics and what peoples experiences were. people will have good and bad expereinces, but thats life isnt it, as long as you make an informed choice, right????

 

[newexplorer]

and homburg would you mind posting that link, for the millionth time im sure! thanks, much appreciated!

 

[Homburg]

and homburg would you mind posting that link, for the millionth time im sure! thanks, much appreciated!

But of course.

http://members.aol.com/OldRope/breamain.htm

I didn't post it because, honestly, I figured people would be tired of me posting this link on every breath play thread that pops up.

 

[subbie_333]

But of course.

http://members.aol.com/OldRope/breamain.htm

I didn't post it because, honestly, I figured people would be tired of me posting this link on every breath play thread that pops up.

i would also like to point out something that i stated that i am not sure if anybody else said.

If you want to do this, get some lessons and experience in real life from somebody who has real life experience.

It is all well and good to get good information on the internet. But, it is *MUCH* different for someone on the net to tell you and even show pics of veins and arteries, compared to getting training from someone in real life who is teaching you via skin touching skin. It amazes me the number of times we see people seeking advice on the net before doing something, but, not making any mention of seeking real life training and advice as well.

 

[graceanne]

[snip for space reasons]

1) I am new and want to know about breathplay
2) Breathplay is dangerous, be careful, young padawan
3) People die from breathplay all the time
4) Breathplay is HAWT!
5) Sure, but at least be aware of the risk
6) STOP REPRESSING MEEEE

Every frikken time. No one on here can tell you to not do what the hell ever gets your rocks off. All they can do is give their opinion. Did someone delete your post, squelch your voice, come to your house and stop you from seeking brain trauma? If not, you weren't repressed, and no one else was.

There are no sex police here, as gracie said. What you will find is a large pool of folks with a collectively enormous pool of experience to learn from. Learn from it or ignore, but don't try to paint those offering advice as repressors.

ROFLMAO

I swear, I almost made a comment along these lines. Cause this ALWAYS HAPPENS. I swear, heaven fucking forbid we tell the truth or be honest. Ever fucking time someone comes on and bitches cause we're being honest.

If they don't like to acknowledge that what you're doing is dangerous then stop going into threads where someone wants to know the risk. DUH! I mean, you (general you) KNOW that everyone's going to be honest and tell the truth. You KNOW that someone's going to mention some friend/aquaintance/lover of theirs who died because of breath play. AND YOU STILL COME TO THREADS ON BREATH PLAY.

 

[Primalex]

There are reasons they intubate you and have someone monitoring your respiration when you're having surgery, there are reasons there are funny paddles on the walls.

If your anesthetist chokes you to make you pass out, I would look for a different hospital!