Carrot or Stick?

[missginger2177]

Thank you CutieMouse. I hadn't really thought about it in that particular way.

 

[satindesire]

What if you were a stick made OUT OF carrots?

That would be the mix, right?

 

[MisterSir]

That'd be one fragile stick.

 

[Keroin]

FWIW, I prefer carrot tops, carrot muffins, and carrot cake.

And frozen bananas on a stick.

Always with the food, MWY. Sigh.

Carrot cake...oh man. *Drools* Actually, there is a place on the island I can get really, really good carrot cake with thick icing. *Makes note to visit this establishment tomorrow after work*

Frozen bananas on stick are great as long as they're dipped in chocolate.

Generally speaking, I like food on sticks. Yakitori, satay, cotton candy, all good. Corndogs I won't do and in Japan I passed on the squid-on-a-stick for what I hope are obvious reasons.

I can't believe how few people have heard of the carrot & stick expression. My experience is that most people respond better to treats and encouragement than threats, and so this is how I deal with them. But if I need to kick ass, and that's rarely, I'll do it. And of course it's all so much more complicated than that, isn't it?

Animals respond better to positive reinforcement.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

Animals respond better to positive reinforcement.

"If you don't do x, I'm positively going to beat the shit out of you with this stick!"

 

[midwestyankee]

Always with the food, MWY. Sigh.

Carrot cake...oh man. *Drools* Actually, there is a place on the island I can get really, really good carrot cake with thick icing. *Makes note to visit this establishment tomorrow after work*

Frozen bananas on stick are great as long as they're dipped in chocolate.

Generally speaking, I like food on sticks. Yakitori, satay, cotton candy, all good. Corndogs I won't do and in Japan I passed on the squid-on-a-stick for what I hope are obvious reasons.

I can't believe how few people have heard of the carrot & stick expression. My experience is that most people respond better to treats and encouragement than threats, and so this is how I deal with them. But if I need to kick ass, and that's rarely, I'll do it. And of course it's all so much more complicated than that, isn't it?

Animals respond better to positive reinforcement.

Food = good

Cotton candy = bad

Corn dogs = bad

Squid on a stick = not sure what "the obvious reasons" could possibly be

Carrot cake= beyond good

 

[satindesire]

Food = good

Cotton candy = bad

Corn dogs = bad

Squid on a stick = not sure what "the obvious reasons" could possibly be

Carrot cake= beyond good

I saw some people take little tiny baby octopi and eat them alive after wrapping them around a stick.

I cried.

 

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[missginger2177]

"If you don't do x, I'm positively going to beat the shit out of you with this stick!"

Crazy thought .... Couldn't the stick BE the carrot? As in -- You do x and you get the beating with the stick like you want.

 

[satindesire]

Crazy thought .... Couldn't the stick BE the carrot? As in -- You do x and you get the beating with the stick like you want.

In that case, the stick IS the carrot, and the stick is shrodinger's cat, apparently.

We're breaching into metaphysical territory that I can't wrap my pregnancy-hormone-addled brains around at this moment, so I'm bowing out of the conversation until I get my IQ back.

 

[MisterSir]

In that case, the stick IS the carrot, and the stick is shrodinger's cat, apparently.

Little known fact: Schrodinger was quite a sadist in his time. Long before he and his cat became famous in academic circles, he was known for his eponymous stick, which was made out of an odd variety of balsa wood and provided the inspiration for his feline experiments. Despite the perception that balsa wood is fragile, it's actually surprisingly strong for its density and so his subs could never tell whether it was going to break until he actually delivered a stroke with it, leaving the stick in a state of quantum uncertainty until then.

I should mention it's only a little known fact because I've just made it up. That said, BDSM should be used to teach more concepts in school. I'd have paid a shitload more attention in micro.

 

[missginger2177]

"That said, BDSM should be used to teach more concepts in school. I'd have paid a shitload more attention in micro."

Decent point. Problem there is I know too many teachers who've never even heard of a stick and would constantly get steamrolled. Then more nothing would get done than already happens (which is far to frequently I might add).

 

[midwestyankee]

I saw some people take little tiny baby octopi and eat them alive after wrapping them around a stick.

I cried.

Indeed. I'm sure many people would think that quite a cruel treatment for the stick.

 

[satindesire]

Indeed. I'm sure many people would think that quite a cruel treatment for the stick.

Who on earth would think that? Octopi are sooooo cute!

 

[missginger2177]

I'll gladly continue the hijacking of my own thread.
Octopi are cute?
Smart yes, cute .... well let's just say I think you need your eyesight checked. Either that or I need my cuteness meter re-calibrated.

 

[satindesire]

I'll gladly continue the hijacking of my own thread.
Octopi are cute?
Smart yes, cute .... well let's just say I think you need your eyesight checked. Either that or I need my cuteness meter re-calibrated.

I have perfect vision, thankyouverymuch.

I think option 2 would be more accurate.

 

[HarlotMinx]

I'll help!

The carrot is the thing on a string in front of the horse. It makes the horse go forward in hope it will get to eat the carrot.

The stick is something to beat the horse with so it will go forward to avoid being beaten.

I've decided to be a carrot dangling on a string making a stubborn beast move because it hopes to eat me!

Funny, I've always viewed the carrot and the stick metaphor a bit differently. Along the lines of "If you don't start obeying you're going to get this carrot rammed so deep that you'll have perfect posture for a month." The reward was never used as a compromise to ensure my obedience. I always felt it was important for someone to not get into the mentality of expecting rewards for good behavior or even assuming there were any.

 

[FurryFury]

Funny, I've always viewed the carrot and the stick metaphor a bit differently. Along the lines of "If you don't start obeying you're going to get this carrot rammed so deep that you'll have perfect posture for a month." The reward was never used as a compromise to ensure my obedience. I always felt it was important for someone to not get into the mentality of expecting rewards for good behavior or even assuming there were any.

Interesting and scary!

 

[HarlotMinx]

Interesting and scary!

*shrugs* I see a lot of relationships that are based on service/rewards dynamics. Not that the dom/me in question is a door mat or that they are soft just that they follow good behavior with reward. There isn't anything wrong with that but I find I prefer if it's clear in a relationship that my service is not conditional. Either I serve or I don't and if I'm not it's because there isn't a functioning relationship.