Consent.

[Betticus]

Forget about it, this whole thread has been hijacked and turned into a teen girls slumber party.

 

[graceanne]

Forget about it, this whole thread has been hijacked and turned into a teen girls slumber party.

*hits betticus with a pillow*

Ok, ok. I can be serious. Lemme think. Fantasy - hm. Lemme get back to you.

 

[madetotakeit]

Spoilsport...you can easily get it back on track...

 

[Homburg]

I'm apparently boring. I don't have rape fantasies, of non-consensual fantasies in general. I've fulfilled a couple of consensual non-consent fantasies for different women, but never felt like it was something I wanted to initiate.

 

[Betticus]

I could but my doc prescribed me ambien and I'm about to take one and enjoy a whole night of sleep.

Not an hour or two followed by lying in bed staring at the walls wishing I was asleep.

 

[madetotakeit]

I'm apparently boring. I don't have rape fantasies, of non-consensual fantasies in general. I've fulfilled a couple of consensual non-consent fantasies for different women, but never felt like it was something I wanted to initiate.

Homburg, you can be called many things...boring is never one of them!

 

[madetotakeit]

I could but my doc prescribed me ambien and I'm about to take one and enjoy a whole night of sleep.

Not an hour or two followed by lying in bed staring at the walls wishing I was asleep.

Well, enjoy your sleep and have the nice surprise of how your thread evolved while you were coming up with even more devious thoughts.

 

[BiBunny]

I have extreme non-consent fantasies on both sides of the whip. They're incredibly dark, and I don't know if I feel comfortable sharing them here or not.

 

[Homburg]

Homburg, you can be called many things...boring is never one of them!

I dunno. I feel like it. I don't have this rich fantasy life like some people do. I don't fantasise. I plan. I don't come up with these grand, Goldbergian things for masturbatory fodder. When I ge tinspired, I pull out th enotebook and figure out how to make it work. As a result of making my ideas come to fruition, I don't get into the craziness other people do.

Thus I feel like I'm boring. I get ideas and always look at em critically and plausibly. Boring. It's BDSM the engineer's way apparently.

 

[madetotakeit]

I dunno. I feel like it. I don't have this rich fantasy life like some people do. I don't fantasise. I plan. I don't come up with these grand, Goldbergian things for masturbatory fodder. When I ge tinspired, I pull out th enotebook and figure out how to make it work. As a result of making my ideas come to fruition, I don't get into the craziness other people do.

Thus I feel like I'm boring. I get ideas and always look at em critically and plausibly. Boring. It's BDSM the engineer's way apparently.

It would be interesting to find out if those of us with the rich fantasy lives actually have the outlet to take the place of fantasies. I think it may be more of a situation of you have a rich life while others of us are left to simply take out our frustrations through thought.

 

[Homburg]

It would be interesting to find out if those of us with the rich fantasy lives actually have the outlet to take the place of fantasies. I think it may be more of a situation of you have a rich life while others of us are left to simply take out our frustrations through thought.

Hmm, could be. That could be depressing.

Actually, "w", the submissive I had in my service for a while, had a rich fantasy stock. All kinds of interesting things going on in her head. I had a good time going through those and playing with them. At one point she halfway complained because she didn't have any fantasies going on. It might track with your point. Because she was actually getting that sort of thing in her life, she had no need to fantasise so much.

I'll have to ask viv. See what she says about it. But, honestly, even when I wasn't active for a while, I didn't have crazy fantasies. It's just me.

 

[Betticus]

It would be interesting to find out if those of us with the rich fantasy lives actually have the outlet to take the place of fantasies. I think it may be more of a situation of you have a rich life while others of us are left to simply take out our frustrations through thought.

I'm with you on this. I calm way down when I'm in a relationship.

 

[madetotakeit]

Well it would certainly explain why my mind has been in high gear lately! lol I may have just analyzed myself!

 

[_kiana_]

But, honestly, even when I wasn't active for a while, I didn't have crazy fantasies. It's just me.

Active or inactive, I rarely have fantasies as well. I replay lots and lots of my past experiences *purrrrrs* but not very often does it go off the track of things I have actually done. I think it quite annoys some of the people I've played with in the past!

....

But I still love reading about other's fantasies.

*fans self after the few Betticus and madetotakeit wrote out*

That's me making an attempt to ask people to keep posting the rape/non-consent thoughts.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

Rape fantasies... where do I begin?

I'm followed home and forced into my house as I open the door. I'm thrown around, slapped, backhanded, punched etc and my clothes are literally ripped from me. I'm dragged kicking and yelling up to the bedroom where Master's restraints and toys are used on my by this stranger as he has his way in whatever deviant fashion he chooses. I'm forced to cum and he mindfucks me into feeling like the lowest of worthless whores.

As a kicker, I sometimes take it further and fantasise that Master returns home as my rapist assrapes me to a thundering orgasm before leaving me bound and covered in cum. He shoves past Master and leaves. Master, having heard me cum, believes the whole thing to be consensual. He therefore chokefucks any protestations of innocence out of me and uses my battered body. He is as hard and rough as possible while beating me with his belt and calling me all the filthy, disobedient, wanton sluts under the sun as punishment. He does not allow me to cum again. Master leaves me bound there to think on the terrible thing I've done by cheating on him and storms downstairs in a towering rage.

 

[sexycaz22]

OK....my turn

I am in a car park walking over to my car, when suddenly a group of men (five of them) appears in front of me, and two of them grabs me by my arms, and I then kick with all the power I could, but stops suddenly as the leader of the group steps forward and slaps me across the face - hard! Then the leader of the group told the two men holding my arms, hard, to drag me over to a white van nearby and then the two men throws me into the darkness, then I feel the men getting into the back of the van. Some of them are feeling me up, touching everywhere you could think of, and I fight and fight, but they ignore the fights and then I feel the van starting and driving off........after maybe an hour of groping and feeling and poking, and tearing clothes off, the van stops and the doors open, then the leader stands there as the men takes me out of the van, now naked, and then takes me into an empty building where there are ropes, whips, floggers, every bdsm furniture you could think of and then every member of the group uses me and abuses me, but no fucking at all, and I hurt everywhere while the leader sits on a leather seat (I imagine him to be an older man, perhaps in his 50s while the other men are in their 20s) commanding and ordering every movement, every slap, every touch the men does. In the end, the leader comes over and then he fucks me -very hard and deeply then finished and then all the men just leaves me there laying on the dirty ground.



(Just a fantasy!! Extreme yes but just a fantasy....in parts with consent I would want it to happen, yes but not to the extreme! )

 

[SweetGigi]

I was under the impression rape and rape play senarios were not conversation subjects for the boards. (you know, the whole terms of use issue and such)

 

[ownedsubgal]

I was under the impression rape and rape play senarios were not conversation subjects for the boards. (you know, the whole terms of use issue and such)

what gave you that idea? heck we've done the rape discussion here time and time again, even to the point of snuff....it's really up to the mods.


anywho, most of my fantasies would fall under the category of rape. not coersion, force, "nonconsent", but brutal shocking, emotionally devastating rape with all of the nasty fallout and consequences.

being abducted in public by 3 strong, uber-aggressive redneck types, driven out into the woods and beaten, tortured and raped repeatedly, lots of blood, tears, lots of piss, lots of cum, lots of deep bruises, some broken bones. dropped off nude and still bound on the side of a busy road for a passerby to find.

being raped by countless men for the sole purpose of impregnation, each dumping load after load into my pussy daily until someone's spermie took....possibly for profit, with the plan being to sell the offspring on the baby black market. gangrapes continuously throughout the pregnancy, very degrading public spectacle type things where men just respond to an ad on craigslist: "free pregnant black pussy to fuck, no covers" and just walk in the door and do what they will. with the birth itself being another public show for everyone's perverse delight, with cocks fucking my mouth and cumming all over me, and digital cameras flashing all around. then after a week of rest, do it all over again.


....those are just a couple. i have countless more. without a doubt most of my fantasies are things that i'd never wish to happen in reality. i fantasize about torture, being completely broken physically and mentally, endless despair and sorrow, death. for some reason it's difficult for me to fantasize about pleasure or happiness and light....for some reason that stuff is a lot more difficult for me to wrap my brain around.

 

[SweetGigi]

what gave you that idea? heck we've done the rape discussion here time and time again, even to the point of snuff....it's really up to the mods.....

Just the impression I was under.

 

[intothewoods]

I was under the impression rape and rape play senarios were not conversation subjects for the boards. (you know, the whole terms of use issue and such)

Rape fantasies are the bread and butter of bdsm.

I gather you mean using the word "rape" literally. I think using the word is part of the appeal. Me and the PYL have a morning rape tradition. It's definitely hot and fulfills a certain need for me. I'm a lightweight on the rape fantasy scale however, clearly.

I see a huge difference between fantasy and reality. I know that sounds obvious, but as Syd said earlier, I don't actually want to be raped by anyone. And if Brad Pitt or Clive Owen were in my house and I didn't invite them, I would be like, what the fuck?

I have had the chance to live out a lot of my fantasies about exhibitionism and all sorts of things. Masturbating to the idea of being watched is a totally different energy than actually being watched by a stranger.

And frankly, it's all fun and games until you learn the person you were dating has a past conviction for rape, for example. I am the strongest supporter of writing about and talking about your sickest darkest fantasies, but I see things differently when I know the person doesn't have that control over themselves. Or the person has violated someone. Or maybe can't distinguish reality from fantasy.

I really don't see this about being an uptight "judgmental" prude. I see a huge difference between ownedsubgal's posts, where even if I go ohhhshitnoway, she makes or made the choice, and someone who, for example, rapes a stranger. Actual rape of an actual stranger.

 

[ownedsubgal]

And frankly, it's all fun and games until you learn the person you were dating has a past conviction for rape, for example. I am the strongest supporter of writing about and talking about your sickest darkest fantasies, but I see things differently when I know the person doesn't have that control over themselves. Or the person has violated someone. Or maybe can't distinguish reality from fantasy.

I really don't see this about being an uptight "judgmental" prude. I see a huge difference between ownedsubgal's posts, where even if I go ohhhshitnoway, she makes or made the choice, and someone who, for example, rapes a stranger. Actual rape of an actual stranger.

hi intothewoods...i'm just curious as to what you meant by the "difference"...do you mean the difference between real rape and play rape/a rape scene? because just to clarify, my fantasies are about the reality of rape, and as such it's not something i would or could ever choose. i know exactly what it is like to be brutally raped and to have to struggle to find some feeble reason to go on with breathing afterwards....those exact feelings are the fodder of my fantasies. and it's precisely why i'd never want them to be reality, yet have a difficult time fantasizing about anything else.

also like yourself i've been involved with convicted rapists before...in one case it was just a casual sexual relationship, the other a friend who i allowed to screw me on occasion when he got the urge. the first guy had beaten and raped a girlfriend, he blamed it on steroids, did 5 years (extreme imo), it didn't bother me a bit. the other had had what he considered to be consensual relationships with 11 and 13 yr old girls, did 6 years. that one made me a little nervous, but he was able to make me feel sorry for him and that i could help him. i've always been attracted to the pervs of the world.

 

[intothewoods]

hi intothewoods...i'm just curious as to what you meant by the "difference"...do you mean the difference between real rape and play rape/a rape scene? because just to clarify, my fantasies are about the reality of rape, and as such it's not something i would or could ever choose. i know exactly what it is like to be brutally raped and to have to struggle to find some feeble reason to go on with breathing afterwards....those exact feelings are the fodder of my fantasies. and it's precisely why i'd never want them to be reality, yet have a difficult time fantasizing about anything else.

Hi Osg. No, that's not what I mean. I said choices you made for a reason. No, you don't choose what your Daddy will do when he comes home this evening, for example. But at some point along the way you made a choice to be with him. So I was alluding not to your fantasies, but to your real life.

also like yourself i've been involved with convicted rapists before...in one case it was just a casual sexual relationship, the other a friend who i allowed to screw me on occasion when he got the urge. the first guy had beaten and raped a girlfriend, he blamed it on steroids, did 5 years (extreme imo), it didn't bother me a bit. the other had had what he considered to be consensual relationships with 11 and 13 yr old girls, did 6 years. that one made me a little nervous, but he was able to make me feel sorry for him and that i could help him. i've always been attracted to the pervs of the world.

I just simply disagree.

 

[ownedsubgal]

Hi Osg. No, that's not what I mean. I said choices you made for a reason. No, you don't choose what your Daddy will do when he comes home this evening, for example. But at some point along the way you made a choice to be with him. So I was alluding not to your fantasies, but to your real life.

ah, gotcha.

 

[Netzach]

I do fantasize about some daterape prone beefy fratboy I've just drugged and abducted , a .45, a condom and lube because I'm niiiiiiice a whole lot of rope, and some really sweet and tender sodomy of his butthole with the muzzle.

The screaming and pleading would be priceless. I'd walk away and let his friends find him. Alive, quite alive, this time.

 

[00Syd]

Haha, I go to bed and everyone talks about their rape fantasies without me

So my turn

I used to have this big elaborate fantasy that I would play out bit by bit in my mind every night. I would be laying in bed asleep and then get kidnapped and transported to this high class sex slavery sort of mall, where girls were kept in little rooms with big windows looking out onto a corridor where rich men would walk up and down, window shopping. Guys could pay a fee to test girls out, prices ranging depending on what the guy wanted to do, from talking to the girl to fucking them. I had this running story about the one guy who wanted to buy me and the guard who worked there and fell in love with me and was trying to save me, it was great, would probably make a good story... But yeah, there was more to it, but thats the meat of it.

Jesus, and I'm thinking about stuff like this in what, 8th grade? I was the most perverted middle school kid ever.