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shereads said:And as for you, young lady, let's not forget that you'd be dining beneath a portrait of Hitler on velvet if not for one of the wars we became involved in. We were over here, safe. You were over there with your asses on the line.
No thanks are necessary, truly.
I think you know by now that I'm not one of the blind faithful when it comes to U.S. foreign policy. But demonizing us is a post-WWII and post-Cold War luxury of your generation that your seniors didn't get to indulge. Even the French liked us when they needed us.
Pure said:Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary (generally found around Page A-12 of the Times), Americans have been cowed into perseverating that Islam is a "religion of peace."
Tatelou said:Yet again, more victims fall foul to an incitement to riot.
It's a good job I've merely been drinking tea tonight.
Maybe I should start a thread and post a poll. Hmmm... "What are your thoughts on Bagpuss, the soft furry catpuss?"
(Sorry, it was the first thing that came to mind, as I have a mini-Bagpuss soft toy sitting on top of my monitor. )
*Hugs all round, and a sneaky little squeeze for Colly*
Lou
TheEarl said:This woman is incredible. She's managed to find her conclusion and then find the facts that fit that conclusion. It's nonsense.
TheEarl said:You may not be one of the blind faithful, but backing up your points with one of very few examples where the USA did the right thing (and even then, only after screwing the UK for every penny before entering), is a specious argument when it comes to the topic of 'the world's policeman.'
Svenskaflicka said:You sow, you reap.
If Americans would behave well towards other countries, they wouldn't be hated so much.
jmt said:If other countries would behave like we tell them to, we wouldn’t have to whup that ass.
jmt said:I’m not as eloquent as “The Dirt Man”
If other countries would behave like we tell them to, we wouldn’t have to whup that ass.
Jmt
shereads said:Min, you're young yet. You'll develop the Irony Alert gene more thoroughly, with time.
minsue said:After a few times here laughing at what I thought were wry jokes, but were in fact completely serious, I've lost all confidence in my Irony Alert system. It's on orange, but I stopped paying attention to the colors awhile ago.
shereads said:I'd like to know whether Svenska or The Earl think the U.S. had ulterior motives in Bosnia and Somalia.
First, I have to say that I hope you're not including the Clinton and Carter presidnecies when you say the U.S. never does anything without an ulterior motive.l There are two instances I can thiik of during the clinton years, when we intervened militarily for no motive that I could see, beyone the need to stop torture and genocide.
To my knowledge, we had nothing to gain in Somalia and a lot to lose; we went in anyway, and sacrificed lives, in an ill-fated attempt to stop a slaughter of sickening propertions I may be wrong, and in Europe you might have another perspective on why Clinton sent troops to the balkans. l believe that President Clinton didn't want to send troops; he preferred to be a peace-time president.
But children were being hacked to death and pregnant women were having their bellies cut open so they could watch their babies die. A pacifist who hated war could no longer stay out of the war in Somalia, no matter the risk to his presidency. I think that the Clinton adminstraton tried to use the power of the U.S. military where it seemed necessary to prevent genocide in Bosnia, and in an ill-fated but well-meant attempt to end the slaughter in Somalia. If they had anything we wanted for ourselves - if Clinton had an ulterior motive - I'd like to know what it was.
I wish The Bill run again....There would have to be a court test to determine whether a two term president can run for a third, non-consecutive term.
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