disputes and discussions involving "the shadow of a boy"

Pure said:
Hi TSOB,

How about some paragraphs of less than 240 words! Have a little mercy, and take account of screen readability. Suggest 60-80 word limit. Also a summary at the end, of your principal conclusions.

Content is great!

:rose:

Ah, but have you earned mercy? ;)

There's something about hitting the <enter> key that I don't like. I'm not sure why. Maybe because it makes my ideas feel too disjoint for me to keep track of; in a paragraph, I can contain a sub-topic and make sure I've brought it to proper closure, and then move on to something else with the next big chunk of text. Or maybe it's a clarity problem. With every new paragraph (and especially three or so new paragraphs later) I worry about whether what I'm attempting to communicate is clear from the context.

I'm certainly willing to try to keep them under 240 words, though, and I'll keep a sharper eye out for 'run-on paragraphs' that could be broken up into smaller units.

However, I can offer no guarantees. Whenever I write poetry* these days - and I rarely aspire to anything that's ultimately much less structured than a sonnet - I find that I can't stand looking at verse. Everything has to be done in a paragraph, using natural commas, colons and semicolons for breath pause. (I tend to count meter by mumbling and counting my fingers off on my teeth, so this doesn't create as much difficulty as one might think.) If I have to take a close look at the scansion, I'll go through it and hit enter until it's all sliced up into miserable little verse lines. But once I'm done, back into a paragraph it goes.

*I tend to refer to it as 'poesy' and myself as a poetaster, but that's sort of a reverse pretension, I know.
 
sunfox said:
Pot... we'd like to introduce you to the kettle :D


LOL, what is really sad to me is that someone would go to the trouble to count how many words are in another's post. Isn't that somehow over pedantic and a definite sign of boredom in one's life?

Catalina :rose:
 
Guess all the emoticons just weren't all that riveting. How unexpected.
 
catalina_francisco said:
LOL, what is really sad to me is that someone would go to the trouble to count how many words are in another's post. Isn't that somehow over pedantic and a definite sign of boredom in one's life?

Catalina :rose:
I always figured the counter(s) copied the post and pasted it into Word or something else that counts your words for you... :eek:
 
Etoile said:
I always figured the counter(s) copied the post and pasted it into Word or something else that counts your words for you... :eek:

Oh, not at all. It's just a natural part of the contemplation of the gnostic meaning of the text. For instance:



The third word of the post by the one known to us as Etolie is 'figured' - we must note that this token refers us to the originary and subjective declaration of identity which stands in ascendance over the text as the very first word which that one utters. The token 'figured' can refer in rustic speech to a reckoning of number, but with the primacy of reference to the act of reckoning itself, rather than number; thus bringing into focus the act of reckoning as a human, failable process, which has not been verified as truth, rather than a reckoning of number or logic presented as proven. Likewise, the same quaint usage brings us the use of 'figured' as referring to a process of thought or the formulation of a belief, similarly presenting this process (or its conclusion) for consideration and verification. In the context of a subjective declaration of identity, the token stresses an advocacy and an intent to defend the process or conclusion, but again signals a degree of pliability with regards to the final truth or disposition of what is presented. Thirdly and lastly, the token 'figured' can appear subsequent to a qualitative or descriptive pronoun as part of an assertion of how a corpus humanae should be regarded, assessed, or valued.

That the ordinal number of this token is prime is significant: a significance boldly hinted at by the equality of that ordinal, the prime number three, with the threefold usages of the token. Thus a resonance between the subjective declaration of identity and the third token is born.

The second token must therefore be taken as subsidiary to this resonance, just as this resonance is ultimately subsidiary to and enfolded in the genesis of the text, the logos humanae of the 'I' which reverberates in the dawn of each subjective identity in imitation of the logos deus which simultaneously was and is voiced at the origin of all that is, where the temporal intersects with the eternal. Yet the second token itself points us towards the constant, the infinite, and the eternal. Thus it becomes clear that the hidden surplus of the logos humanae is at play: the declared eternity is subsidiary to a resonance between the subjective declaration of identity and the proffering in humility and acknowledged imperfectibility of that which partakes of divine reason, yet which has not ascended to a recognition as truth. This is confirmed when we examine the third mode of the third token as possessing the quality indicated by the second: the token pair asserts "always figured". Thus the invoker and auditor of the logos humanae, the one known as Etolie, recreates its fundamental anxiety and problematic, the identification of the subjective identity speaking-and-hearing-itself with the corpus humanae in which it is situated. As the world is finite on the scale of the divine, the corpus humanae is finite on the scale of our subjectivities. The logos deus reverberates within and is the essence of the existence of that which exists; just as the temporal intersects with the eternal in the temporal genesis, so does the temporal intersect with the eternal in the temporal cessation. The logos humanae utters itself and creates a subjectivity within temporality in imitation of the divine act. Thus, with the cessation of the corpus humanae, might not the logos humanae also cease?

The ordinal fourth of the text, bracketing the third in three different symmetries with the second, is the token 'the'....



In fairness to Pure, the post referred to by Francisco did use the shorter paragraphs of which he spoke.


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*gawk*
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Wow.
 
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Favorite toy - me, quirt.

M- strap on Dildo.

R- needles.

TSOB- a fresh copy of S/Z by Barthes for hitting upside the head.
 
blinked Etolie:
*gawk*
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Wow.

It's probably not quite clear that that's my idea of a joke. Knowing that might help put the whole business with Spivak in context.

More precisely, the conceit of a gnostic close reading of someone's harmless post was my idea of a joke. Producing a reasonable facsimile of such was kind of fun, once I got started.

thus spake Netzach:
TSOB- a fresh copy of S/Z by Barthes for hitting upside the head.

Hey, 'concussion play' isn't safe, sane, or consenual at all!

I've never read anything by Bart except for Mythologies and the stuff he writes on the chalkboard at the start of each episode. Is S/Z the book in which he does a close reading of a novel that ends up being twice as long or something?

I like the word 'quirt'. It's the sexiest sounding toy name I can think of.
 
the shadow of a boy said:
It's probably not quite clear that that's my idea of a joke. Knowing that might help put the whole business with Spivak in context.

More precisely, the conceit of a gnostic close reading of someone's harmless post was my idea of a joke. Producing a reasonable facsimile of such was kind of fun, once I got started.
No, don't worry - I knew it was a joke! I was just impressed by the effort you put into it.
 
explained Etoile:
No, don't worry - I knew it was a joke! I was just impressed by the effort you put into it.

In that case, the existential anxiety provoked by the logos humanae/logos deus relationship may well turn up during the oral examination at the end of term. Especially if I can figure out how to procure a 'quirt'.;)
 
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