Epic, Brutal, Takedowns of Rachel "Roswell" Maddow

[cowslinger64]

Because it's orders of magnitude more factual and trustworthy as a news source.

Bwahahahahaha.... you're an idiot. No wonder you post so much stupid shit.

 

[icanhelp1]

Name one thing in the Steele Dossier that was not accurate... one thing... anything.

RightGuide has his head so far up his ass it's amazing that such deluded people exist in the United States. His gift for Xmas was an entire shipment of Kool Aid.

Are you Rachel Maddow's alt? The FBI knew the dossier was bunk 2 days after Mueller was appoint to Special Counsel. The Mueller team made a direct end around where the dossier was concerned. Had Mueller and Weissmann put any effort into the Steele dossier investigation they would have been forced to shut down the whole Mueller investigation!!

Small correction, Mueller knew the Steele dossier was bogus 2 days after he was appointed. The FBI knew about it for a while.

 

[bellisarius]

The cable ratings are out. All of the cable news outlets lost viewers --- except for one. *chuckle*

The viewers have voted it seems.

 

[Rightguide]

Name one thing in the Steele Dossier that was not accurate... one thing... anything.

RightGuide has his head so far up his ass it's amazing that such deluded people exist in the United States. His gift for Xmas was an entire shipment of Kool Aid.

All of it was bullshit. You didn't read the IG report, did you? The FBI knew in January of 2017 the Dossier was total crap, months before Mueller was appointed. READ THE FRIGGIN" IG FISA REPORT, before shooting off your cluelessness.

 

[Bdm20]

Yeah but, FOX doesn't lie over and over again, like CNN.

That’s sarcasm, right?

 

[badbabysitter]

The cable ratings are out. All of the cable news outlets lost viewers --- except for one. *chuckle*

The viewers have voted it seems.

More is better?


Sure, Katy Perry by that standard is vastly superior to Johnny Cash

More is better

 

[badbabysitter]

And if more people watch FOX.. that by very definition makes them the mainstream media

 

[BotanyBoy]

More is better?

With regard to viewer ratings/popularity?? Yes.

Sure, Katy Perry by that standard is vastly superior to Johnny Cash

More is better

Not even fucking close, not in album sales or hits. Cash has nearly 5x the sales and 4x the hits.

You should have picked a talented artist who isn't one of the best selling musicians of all time. Like Tosin Abasi

Spouting non-stop bullshit as usual, don't ever stop BBS

 

[Aglaopheme]

I knew someone had to have done it considering the average age of Fox News’ viewership.

 

[cowslinger64]

I knew someone had to have done it considering the average age of Fox News’ viewership.

And intelligence..

 

[cowslinger64]

All of it was bullshit. You didn't read the IG report, did you? The FBI knew in January of 2017 the Dossier was total crap, months before Mueller was appointed. READ THE FRIGGIN" IG FISA REPORT, before shooting off your cluelessness.

Rebuttal?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ju...ussia-probe-was-justified-not-biased-n1098161

WASHINGTON — The FBI mishandled parts of its application to monitor a Trump campaign aide as it was probing possible Russian interference in the 2016 election, but the overall investigation was justified, according to a long-awaited report by the Justice Department's watchdog that rebuts the president's depiction of a politically biased plot against him.

The 434-page report by Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz concluded that the FBI and the Justice Department launched their investigation into the 2016 campaign not for political reasons, but because of evidence the Russian government was using cutouts to reach out to the Trump campaign as part of its efforts to influence the election.

The inspector general said he examined more than a million documents and interviewed more than 100 witnesses.

Horowitz found that political bias did not taint the actions of former FBI leaders who have frequently been the subject of presidential attacks on Twitter, including former Director James Comey, former Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and former Deputy Assistant Director Peter Strzok.

 

[cowslinger64]

No rebuttal from vette? needs help? not aj? not ish? queball?



Shocking!

 

[icanhelp1]

No rebuttal from vette? needs help? not aj? not ish? queball?



Shocking!

I guess you have to read the Horowitz report and decide for yourself.

 

[Rightguide]

I guess you have to read the Horowitz report and decide for yourself.

Leave it to Cowpile to substitute ass covering spin for the words of the IG, which I have already posted almost two weeks ago. All you have to do is search "primary sub source" in the report. This on pages 187-188 of the IG Fisa Report in regard to Steele's primary source for his Dossier:

IG Report page 187-188

The FBI conducted interviews of the Primary Sub-source in January, March, and May 2017 that raised significant questions about the reliability of the Steele election reporting. In particular, the FBI's interview with Steele's Primary Subsource in January 2017, shortly after the FBI filed the Carter Page FISA Renewal Application No. 1 and months prior to Renewal Application No. 2, raised doubts about the reliability of Steele's descriptions of information in his election reports. During the FBI's January interview, at which Case Agent 1, the Supervisory Intel Analyst, and representatives of NSD were present, the Primary Sub-source told the FBI that he/she had not seen Steele's reports until they became public that month, and that he/she made statements indicating that Steele misstated or exaggerated the Primary Sub-source's statements in multiple sections of the reporting. 336 For example, the Primary Sub-source told the FBI that, while Report 80 stated that Trump's alleged sexual activities at the Ritz Carlton hotel in Moscow had been "confirmed" by a senior, western staff member at the hotel, the Primary Sub-source explained that he/she reported to Steele that Trump's alleged unorthodox sexual activity at the Ritz Carlton hotel was "rumor and speculation" and that he/she had not been able to confirm the story. A second example provided by the Primary Sub-source was Report 134's description of a meeting allegedly held between Carter Page and Igor Sechin, the President of Rosneft, a Russian energy conglomerate. 337 Report 134 stated that, according to a "close associate" of Sechin, Sechin offered "PAGE/TRUMP's associates the brokerage of up to a 19 percent (privatized) stake in Rosneft" in return for the lifting of sanctions against the company. 338 The Primary Sub-source told the FBI that one of his/ her subsources furnished information for that part of Report 134 through a text message, but said that the sub-source never stated that Sechin had offered a brokerage interest to Page. 339 We reviewed the texts and did not find any discussion of a bribe, whether as an interest in Rosneft itself or a "brokerage.

The Primary Sub-source was questioned again by the FBI beginning in March 2017 about the election reporting and his/ her communications with Steele. The Washington Field Office agent {WFO Agent 1) who conducted that interview and others after it told the OIG that the Primary Sub-source felt that the tenor of Steele's reports was far more "conclusive" than was justified. The Primary Subsource also stated that he/she never expected Steele to put the Primary Subsource's statements in reports or present them as facts. According to WFO Agent 1, the Primary Sub-source said he/she made it clear to Steele that h'e/she had no proof to support the statements from his/her sub-sources and that "it was just talk." WFO Agent 1 said that the Primary Sub-source explained that his/ her information came from "word of mouth and hearsay;" "conversation that [he/she] had with friends over beers;" and that some of the information, such as allegations about Trump's sexual activities, were statements he/she heard made in "jest."341 The Primary Sub-source also told WFO Agent 1 that he/she believed that the other sub-sources exaggerated their access to information and the relevance of that information to his/her requests. The Primary Sub-source told WFO Agent 1 that he/she "takes what [sub-sources] tell [him/ her] with 'a grain of salt."'

In addition, the FBI interviews with the Primary Sub-source revealed that Steele did not have good insight into how many degrees of separation existed between the Primary Sub-source's sub-sources and the persons quoted in the reporting, and that it could have been multiple layers of hearsay upon hearsay. For example, the Primary Sub-source stated to WFO Agent 1 that, in contrast to the impression left from the election reports, his/her sub-sources did not have direct access to the persons they were reporting on. Instead, the Primary Sub-source told WFO Agent 1 that their information was "from someone else who may have had access."

The Primary Sub-source also informed WFO Agent 1 that Steele tasked him/her after the 2016 U.S. elections to find corroboration for the election reporting and that the Primary Sub-source could find none. According to WFO Agent 1, during an interview in May 2017, the Primary Sub-source said the corroboration was "zero." The Primary Sub-source had reported the same conclusion to the Crossfire Hurricane team members who interviewed him/her in January 2017.

 

[Conager]

SMH.

Cowshitter still spewing the pre-release talking points spin even after Horowitz destroyed them with a single sentence:

"I think the activities don't vindicate anybody who touched this." - Michael Horowitz

 

[Rightguide]

SMH.

Cowshitter still spewing the pre-release talking points spin even after Horowitz destroyed them with a single sentence:

"I think the activities don't vindicate anybody who touched this." - Michael Horowitz

These people don't read what's put before them.

 

[Rightguide]

Here it is folks, right out of the horse's mouth, Maddow is a liar:



Rachel Maddow’s Argument Against OAN Lawsuit: Don’t Believe Her Words Are Fact
Maddow is arguing in court her words should not be taken as fact after saying OAN "literally is paid Russian propaganda."
By Chris Gregory


Now, Maddow is arguing in court that her words should not be taken as fact.

Her actual legal defense, put out in a motion by her lawyer Theodore Boutrous Jr., reads: “…the liberal host was clearly offering up her ‘own unique expression’ of her views to capture what she saw as the ‘ridiculous’ nature of the undisputed facts. Her comment, therefore, is a quintessential statement ‘of rhetorical hyperbole, incapable of being proved true or false.’”

During one of her MSNBC segments, Maddow claimed, “In this case, the most obsequiously pro-Trump right wing news outlet in America is really literally is paid Russian propaganda,” and added, “Their on-air politics reporter (Kristian Rouz) is paid by the Russian government to produce propaganda for that government.”

Leaving aside that Maddow now says her words should not be believed as fact, a linguistics professor’s testimony is leading observers to believe Maddow is also now lying in court.

UC Santa Barbara linguistics professor Stefan Thomas Gries said, “it is very unlikely that an average or reasonable/ordinary viewer would consider the sentence in question to be a statement of opinion.”

https://culttture.com/2019/rachel-m...-lawsuit-is-her-words-should-not-be-believed/

 

[Aglaopheme]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...america-news-threatens-to-sue-the-daily-beast

“Utterly self-destructive”

One America News network and the Kremlin's Sputnik outlet like to spread fake news relating to Syria. At times they do so using the same Russian government front. This effort serves the Kremlin's interests.

And that's why One America News network will fail to get the Daily Beast retract a story on OAN's sometime-synergy with the Kremlin. OAN's lawyers are making the same demand of MSNBC, which referenced the Daily Beast's reporting on a recent episode of Rachel Maddow's show.

More on the Syria angle in a moment. But first, the legal side of things. To start, let me suggest that the Daily Beast frame OAN's notice before action letter. Because OAN has about as much chance of succeeding in this effort as matter has to escape the event horizon of a black hole. Assessed against reality, OAN's claim isn't just weak, it's utterly self-destructive.

The story begins with a July 22 Daily Beast report by Kevin Poulsen. In that report, Poulsen outlines the links between an OAN staffer Kristian Rouz and the Kremlin's Sputnik news network. Poulsen points out that Rouz has been simultaneously working for both OAN and Sputnik, and that Sputnik is a Russian government front organization designed to influence westerners towards the Kremlin's policy positions. Far more often than not, that means influencing westerners against U.S. interests.

 

[Rightguide]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...america-news-threatens-to-sue-the-daily-beast

“Utterly self-destructive”

They'll probably be next. They deserve it too. They started the Dossier bullshit as well.

 

[Aglaopheme]

They'll probably be next. They deserve it too. They started the Dossier bullshit as well.

Sure....

Hey did the cat work for Sputnik and OAN?

Kristian Brunovich Rouz, originally from the Siberian city of Novosibirsk, has been living in San Diego, where OAN is based, since August 2017, reporting on U.S. politics for the 24-hour news channel. For all of that time, he’s been simultaneously writing for Sputnik, a Kremlin-owned news wire that played a role in Russia’s 2016 election-interference operation, according to an assessment by the U.S. intelligence community.

Rouz’s on-air reports for OAN include a wholly fabricated 2017 segment claiming Hillary Clinton is secretly bankrolling antifa through her political action committee. Clinton, Rouz claimed falsely, gave antifa protesters $800,000 that “went toward things like bricks, hammers, bats, and chains.”

Other smears target billionaire financier George Soros, a longtime Kremlin bête noire. In one segment, Rouz amplified a thoroughly debunked claim that Soros collaborated with the Nazis during World War II, when the Jewish philanthropist was 14 years old. Another Rouz story accused Soros of secretly funding migrant caravans.

Kremlin propaganda sometimes sneaks into Rouz’s segments on unrelated matters, dropped in as offhand background information. A segment on the Syrian rescue workers known as the White Helmets references “allegations of the White Helmets’ involvement in military activities, executions, and numerous war atrocities,” but doesn’t disclose that those “allegations” were hoaxes that originated with Vladimir Putin and his proxies.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/oan-trumps-new-favorite-channel-employs-kremlin-paid-journalist

 

[phrodeau]

No rebuttal from vette? needs help? not aj? not ish? queball?



Shocking!

Another Rightguide thread title that fails to deliver.

 

[Rightguide]

Sure....

Hey did the cat work for Sputnik and OAN?



https://www.thedailybeast.com/oan-trumps-new-favorite-channel-employs-kremlin-paid-journalist

"OAN said in its lawsuit that while reporter Kristian Rouz was associated with Sputnik News, he worked solely as a freelancer for them and was not a staff employee of OAN. And the lawsuit includes a statement from Rouz stating that while he has written some 1,300 articles over the past 4 and a half years for Sputnik, he has "...never written propaganda, disinformation, or unverified information.”

Skip Miller, OAN's attorney stated:

“One America is wholly owned, operated and financed by the Herring family in San Diego. They are as American as apple pie. They are not paid by Russia and have nothing to do with the Russian government. This is a false and malicious libel, and they’re going to answer for it in a court of law.”


Bottom line however is Maddow's court stated assertion her comments are not statements of fact, but of opinion.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Foxier than Fox.

One of the earliest and biggest propagators of the insane Pizzagate conspiracy claiming high-ranking Democratic officials run a child-sex ring out a D.C.-area pizzeria, Posobiec also was a central figure in terms of pushing the discredited Seth Rich conspiracy theory. Among his more infamous antics: Days after Trump’s election, in Nov. 2016, Posobiec attempted to discredit anti-Trump protesters by planting a “Rape Melania” sign in a demonstration, something he denies involvement in.

Besides repeatedly pushing the debunked notion that Rich, a former DNC staffer, was murdered for providing Clinton-related emails to WikiLeaks, Posobiec hired a couple of neo-Nazi brothers to work on a Rich documentary. In 2018, Jeffrey Clark, one of the brothers, was arrested on weapons charges amid accusations he was planning a race war alongside his brother Edward, who committed suicide hours after the Pittsburgh synagogue massacre.

The Clark brothers aren’t the only ties Posobiec has had with white nationalism. He’s been pictured with notorious white supremacist Richard Spencer, whom he once described as “indispensable.” Throughout the 2016 election, he repeatedly shared social media posts containing the white supremacist code 1488, which references the Fourteen Words. Posobiec also utilized the anti-Semitic triple-parentheses meme in an Oct. 2016 tweet.

Since joining OAN, Posobiec has continued to embrace his inner troll while playing footsie with the fever swamp. In October, for instance, Posobiec signaled to the cultish believers in the crazed QAnon conspiracy, tweeting: “How can the left say they believe the whistleblower but not believe QAnon?” Weeks later, during the impeachment hearings, Posobiec took issue with National Security Council official Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman’s heritage, wondering: “Why are there so many non-US-born people working in our Intel and State Department?”

Gee, that sounds familiar. Who was the person pointing out which on the folks that testified that were not born in the US?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-y...a-news-trumps-new-favorite-cable-news-channel

 

[Aglaopheme]

How apt. Meet the Press is doing a segment on disinformation and propaganda. You’re a classic case with your dedication RG.

 

[Rightguide]

Foxier than Fox.




Gee, that sounds familiar. Who was the person pointing out which on the folks that testified that were not born in the US?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-y...a-news-trumps-new-favorite-cable-news-channel

Yeah, I wondered the same thing, for a long time. Even before OAN has existed. I pointed out Dr. Hill as well.