Female Humilation

[Very_Bad_Man]

How about then, offering it in the form of a question? That's a sneaky little trick that sometimes fools people into thinking you're humble and stuff. yes exactly-- hardly a fetish. More like a motherfucking ten-pound bag of pig shit that her husband has dropped into her lap.

danigrl84-- thank you

I have a hard time humbling myself.

My thoughts on woman are though some like being dominated and even degraded in the privacy of the boudoir yet they have far more sense of self-worth to allow themselves to be humiliated. I have never met a women who wanted to be humiliated where I read it as a huge theme for a lot of men.

I can intellectually understand most fetishes no matter how odd but I cannot even begin to understand a man wishing to be humiliated, well really why anybody would wish it. I know this has more to do with my own masculine self image more than anything being wrong with the fetish. I'm all for whatever floats your boat.

For me, I have a strong masculine self-image and I really enjoy my adult toys and I just refuse to share with another man. I'm selfish like that.

I wonder what Freud would say about men who wanted to be cucked. I'm sure it would have something to do with his mother. Hmmmmmm, now I am curious about the psychology of this particular fetish.

 

[Nasty_Deeds]

hardly a fetish. More like a motherfucking ten-pound bag of pig shit that her husband has dropped into her lap.

Stella, I'm beginning to think you might have a tiny bit of an issue with men?

 

[Stella_Omega]

Stella, I'm beginning to think you might have a tiny bit of an issue with men?

Politicians who get caught cheating on their wives and she has to discover this and deal with it in public?

i think that any wife suddenly confronted with the situation would call that a ten pound bag of shit

No-- it's never been me. I've always had open relationships. No unexpected cheating surprises on that front, and certainly never in public eye!

 

[greenjacobin]

I have a hard time humbling myself.

My thoughts on woman are though some like being dominated and even degraded in the privacy of the boudoir yet they have far more sense of self-worth to allow themselves to be humiliated. I have never met a women who wanted to be humiliated where I read it as a huge theme for a lot of men.

I can intellectually understand most fetishes no matter how odd but I cannot even begin to understand a man wishing to be humiliated, well really why anybody would wish it. I know this has more to do with my own masculine self image more than anything being wrong with the fetish. I'm all for whatever floats your boat.

For me, I have a strong masculine self-image and I really enjoy my adult toys and I just refuse to share with another man. I'm selfish like that.

I wonder what Freud would say about men who wanted to be cucked. I'm sure it would have something to do with his mother. Hmmmmmm, now I am curious about the psychology of this particular fetish.

I think Freud would point out that a frail self-image is evidenced by the vigor one puts forth to promote their perceived status. Consequently, most often the cuckold is far more comfortable with the person he is than the alpha male. And it is the alpha male who endeavors to establish his perceived masculinity above all else, in many cases, against his own best interests.

Also, when one is aroused by humiliation, it is no longer a source of harm. In those cases, indulging in such a pleasure does not signify a lack of self respect.

 

[Nasty_Deeds]

I think Freud would point out that a frail self-image is evidenced by the vigor one puts forth to promote their perceived status. Consequently, most often the cuckold is far more comfortable with the person he is than the alpha male. And it is the alpha male who endeavors to establish his perceived masculinity above all else, in many cases, against his own best interests.

Also, when one is aroused by humiliation, it is no longer a source of harm. In those cases, indulging in such a pleasure does not signify a lack of self respect.

hmmmm and all this time, I thought a cuckold husband was turned-on by his own feeling of sexual inadequacy.

 

[greenjacobin]

hmmmm and all this time, I thought a cuckold husband was turned-on by his own feeling of sexual inadequacy.

He is.

 

[juvare]

Is there another term for someone who enjoy watching their partner with someone else minus the humiliation?

I've had a partner that fantasized about me with other men, very much enjoyed hearing stories about my experiences with others, liked looking at pictures of me with others and I imagine had we stayed together this would have lead to him being in the room watching while I fucked someone else. However, he is in no way submissive nor would he be turned on if I were to go on and on about how someone else fucked better than him. It's a question he never asked and wasn't an aspect of our play.

I've always referred to it as a cuckold thing but now I'm wondering if there is a better term for it seeing as how in porn and on sites like this the humiliation aspect seems to be key.

I can say that when I am with a partner that I perceive to be out of my 'league' that I have these types of fantasies. Minus the humiliation aspect.

 

[AlmostAlice]

A wise decision, frankly. It's often best to avoid making statements about groups you do not belong to in the presence of that group. For instance, I have many friends who are black, and they tell me things which i then can assimilate into my understanding of what goes on with them.

And sometimes, I can speak up for my black friends in the company of white folk who are being stupid.

But if I spoke up as some kind of theorist about black people --in the presence of black people-- I'd probably get my head ripped off for my presumptuousness. And quite rightly, too, since this group of black people so obviously can speak for themselves. There can't possibly be anything I can say of that this huge group of intelligent, eloquent folk haven't thought of already. Talk about patronising!

I agree about it being best policy - people do get incredibly touchy over this, but is it necessarily patronising? The colour of one's skin doesn't automatically guarantee or exclude the validity of a point of view. I'm Asian, but I'm well-read enough that I know more about European history than the average white person I've met. Similarly a Caucasian economist would certainly be more qualified to talk about inner-city African-American poverty than the average black person-on-the-street.

Perhaps it's different with sexual fetishes though.

 

[Nasty_Deeds]

He is.

OK, if a cuckold husband is turned-on by his feelings of sexual inadequacy, what would be the turn-on for a cuckquean? Many woman feel sexually inadequate, but would be repulsed by the very thought of her husband fucking another woman in her presence. Watching her husband fuck another woman is by definition a sexual act, so what would draw a cuckquean to this fetish?

This is the first time I have heard of a cuckquean, and find the subject intriguing.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Is there another term for someone who enjoy watching their partner with someone else minus the humiliation?
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I've always referred to it as a cuckold thing but now I'm wondering if there is a better term for it seeing as how in porn and on sites like this the humiliation aspect seems to be key.

I can say that when I am with a partner that I perceive to be out of my 'league' that I have these types of fantasies. Minus the humiliation aspect.

the term is "wittol" but it's as rarely used as "cuckquean" although-- much much more common in practice.

OK, if a cuckold husband is turned-on by his feelings of sexual inadequacy, what would be the turn-on for a cuckquean? Many woman feel sexually inadequate, but would be repulsed by the very thought of her husband fucking another woman in her presence. Watching her husband fuck another woman is by definition a sexual act, so what would draw a cuckquean to this fetish?

This is the first time I have heard of a cuckquean, and find the subject intriguing.

Like I say, I only found two women who actually claimed this fetish. Hey, I know one- dendrophil. It's a fetish for fucking trees. I kind of have a version of it. I bet there's more people out there who want to fuck trees than women who get off on being cuckqueans.

I agree about it being best policy - people do get incredibly touchy over this, but is it necessarily patronising? The colour of one's skin doesn't automatically guarantee or exclude the validity of a point of view. I'm Asian, but I'm well-read enough that I know more about European history than the average white person I've met.

yes, because a knowledge of European history depends more on being well-read than it does on a life experience.

Not only that but you are also well positioned to be able to talk about how surprised some white people are when they find out that you, an Asian, are better read than they are.

Similarly a Caucasian economist would certainly be more qualified to talk about inner-city African-American poverty than the average black person-on-the-street.

But that Caucasian economist cannot speak to the visceral experience of being black on the street. Of being harassed regularly for, as my friends put it, "the crime of Walking With Melanin," or of being told that you have a stupid made up name (Like LaToya or Shaquill) instead of a real name (like Cynthia or Virgil)

Nor can I.

I can relay to you what my friends have told me-- but I can't tell them anything about their reality they don't already know.

 

[Very_Bad_Man]

Is there another term for someone who enjoy watching their partner with someone else minus the humiliation?

I've had a partner that fantasized about me with other men, very much enjoyed hearing stories about my experiences with others, liked looking at pictures of me with others and I imagine had we stayed together this would have lead to him being in the room watching while I fucked someone else. However, he is in no way submissive nor would he be turned on if I were to go on and on about how someone else fucked better than him. It's a question he never asked and wasn't an aspect of our play.

I've always referred to it as a cuckold thing but now I'm wondering if there is a better term for it seeing as how in porn and on sites like this the humiliation aspect seems to be key.

I can say that when I am with a partner that I perceive to be out of my 'league' that I have these types of fantasies. Minus the humiliation aspect.

Definitely not a cuck.

Nothing to "weird" just an open relationship.

 

[justherhusband]

I got the pleasure of knowing that my husband was in fact having sex with a younger, sexier, more desireable woman than me.........of course I had no say so in the matter but what I DID have a say in was how he was going to pack his shit and get out of MY house, turn over half of his 401 to me, leave me the keys to the car and pay me every month until I die. Ya know, come to think of it......I kinda like it too. Maybe the OP has got something there. Spread the word.

Hilarious! Best damn post in the whole thread.

 

[justherhusband]

I'm saying that this is why so few women have the kink. Women don't often indulge in kinks that hit too close to their life's realities, especially the ones they cannot change.

I say this from the point of view of a woman, who has interacted-- talked with and listened to-- thousands of other women.


I have a new word for you: mansplain

No matter how many "thousands" of women you've talked to, it's still just your opinion. I still don't believe that's the reason why women don't share this fetish. Apparently you do. That's fine. Everyone's entitled to their own opinions - and beliefs are nothing more than opinions. Yet you state yours as fact and condescend to those who hold a differing viewpoint.


Thanks for this link. I assume you posted it to help my simple mind understand how you communicate. I just didn't realize that you were a man before I recognized you in the definitions. I think I'll refer to this method of communication as "stellasplaining" from now on since it describes your own style so succinctly.

 

[greenjacobin]

Is there another term for someone who enjoy watching their partner with someone else minus the humiliation?

I've had a partner that fantasized about me with other men, very much enjoyed hearing stories about my experiences with others, liked looking at pictures of me with others and I imagine had we stayed together this would have lead to him being in the room watching while I fucked someone else. However, he is in no way submissive nor would he be turned on if I were to go on and on about how someone else fucked better than him. It's a question he never asked and wasn't an aspect of our play.

I've always referred to it as a cuckold thing but now I'm wondering if there is a better term for it seeing as how in porn and on sites like this the humiliation aspect seems to be key.

I can say that when I am with a partner that I perceive to be out of my 'league' that I have these types of fantasies. Minus the humiliation aspect.

It seems everyone has their own definition for "cuckold." Nevertheless, having enjoyed so many years in the lifestyle, let me point out the two elements that most of us (in the lifestyle) agree are necessary for a man to be a cuckold.

1. He has no control over his partner's sex life.
2. He is aroused by a feeling of lesser sexual status than that of his partner's lover(s).

Item number two does not necessarily mean humiliation. It is possible to feel the arousal and the "inadequacy" without it being humiliating. It's like watching a professional athlete. You know you're not as good, but that doesn't make it humiliating.

So, the humiliation aspect is widespread in cuckolding, but not a requirement.

Plenty of men enjoy sharing their wife, but they are not cuckolds. They have a say in whether or not she may continue to see other men, and they typically feel no sense of lesser sexual status. They just like seeing their wives enjoy themselves. This is the typical swinger community.

Cuckolds are usually looked down upon because they are not understood. We humans always poo-poo what we don't understand. But rest assured, no man is a cuckold against his will.

 

[HerLittlePiggy]

I had an ex gf who said the idea of watching me fuck another woman was a huge turn on. She also wanted to be choked, have her hair pulled, ass slapped etc. Oddly in reality she was very jealous and I knew it never would have happened. Basically, submissive women prefer their humiliation in a different manner. Usually it manifests itself with physical and names like being called a slut, whore or bitch. At least that is my take.

 

[RedHeadedlover]

I fantasize all the time about watching my husband fucking another woman. Normally whoever is as hot as me or hotter. She is our sex slave in my fantasy.

 

[greenjacobin]

OK, if a cuckold husband is turned-on by his feelings of sexual inadequacy, what would be the turn-on for a cuckquean? Many woman feel sexually inadequate, but would be repulsed by the very thought of her husband fucking another woman in her presence. Watching her husband fuck another woman is by definition a sexual act, so what would draw a cuckquean to this fetish?

This is the first time I have heard of a cuckquean, and find the subject intriguing.

It is the same for a cuckquean. She would be aroused by her feelings of sexual inadequacy just like a cuckold. If she is not, then she is not a cuckquean. She's just another woman being cheated on.

Another scenario/perspective is this:

In the world of BDSM, there are plenty of submissive women. Obviously, they are women who are sexually aroused by their submission. If they exist in such a level of submission that their master is having sex with whomever he pleases, AND that infidelity arouses her, then she could be called a cuckquean.

 

[Nasty_Deeds]

It is the same for a cuckquean. She would be aroused by her feelings of sexual inadequacy just like a cuckold. If she is not, then she is not a cuckquean. She's just another woman being cheated on.

Another scenario/perspective is this:

In the world of BDSM, there are plenty of submissive women. Obviously, they are women who are sexually aroused by their submission. If they exist in such a level of submission that their master is having sex with whomever he pleases, AND that infidelity arouses her, then she could be called a cuckquean.

So, there could be any number of cuckqueans on Lit, but they may be drawn to the BDSM forum rather than the Fetish and Sexuality forum? Perhaps there are cuckqueans that don't really know they are cuckqueans, but may have confused their sexual desires with another lifestyle?

 

[greenjacobin]

So, there could be any number of cuckqueans on Lit, but they may be drawn to the BDSM forum rather than the Fetish and Sexuality forum? Perhaps there are cuckqueans that don't really know they are cuckqueans, but may have confused their sexual desires with another lifestyle?

Yes.

In fact as one who cuckolds her husband, I started posting here on Lit in the BDSM forum, but I didn't get the reception there that I got from the GBLT forum, and later, this one. I am the "D" in BDSM, but I don't do severe pain, I don't wear black leather, and cuckolding, I guess, is not popular with that group.

But I'm getting off topic...

I have seen women post in the BDSM forum who are subs that also admit to being aroused by their master's infidelity (one is a humiliation slut, the other is not). They would be cuckqueans, but that part of their relationship is really a smaller part of the whole BDSM lifestyle.

Where domination with cuckolding fit under the BDSM lifestyle is a very gray area.

 

[Verinka]

I had an ex gf who said the idea of watching me fuck another woman was a huge turn on. She also wanted to be choked, have her hair pulled, ass slapped etc. Oddly in reality she was very jealous and I knew it never would have happened.

I can relate to all that, except not so being choked. I get turned on by the fantasy of my lover with someone else, but I think it's complex, if I break it down. 'She' is the idealized me, very attractive and someone I'm attracted to. The body parts, the clothes, the persona...all what I like. He does what I want him to and what I'd like to have done. She is the centre of attention! He is fucking a woman, as I'd like to, plus I'm being fucked the way I want, all rolled into one. He's overcome with lust and desire by this gorgeous woman and sometimes he has several friends, all overcome with desire, all over this gorgeous woman, who occasionally becomes me for a second. He also represents giving in freely to your sexual desires, finding many women and situations appealing, which I find hard. but probably secretly crave. Have I overthought this...LOLOL. Are women sometimes just too complicated? Or just redheads? So many questions, so little really GOOD sex.......

 

[25yoDom]

This was a real thing between me and my ex. We had a friend who she really liked, it all ended up with my ex-gf tied up and forced to watch me fuck her friend. We looked into each other's eyes most of the session and I told her how good the pussy felt, how hard my cock was for her friend, how much better her friend was then her (she loved verbal humiliation). She looked quite humiliated during the fucking but as soon as I untied her she was extra affectionate and submissive. She said the whole ordeal made her feel like I was an "uncontrollable beast" and that something snapped inside her and she knew could never control me and her submission was complete to me. She seemed to love it although we never did it again (the friend didnt think it was as fun as we did).

 

[pullmyhair3717]

I got the pleasure of knowing that my husband was in fact having sex with a younger, sexier, more desireable woman than me.........of course I had no say so in the matter but what I DID have a say in was how he was going to pack his shit and get out of MY house, turn over half of his 401 to me, leave me the keys to the car and pay me every month until I die. Ya know, come to think of it......I kinda like it too. Maybe the OP has got something there. Spread the word.

This made my day !!! I like the way u think

 

[justherhusband]

It's too close to everyday life. Women are bombarded with men's images of perfect women; day in, day out, on every TV screen, billboard, and Cosmo cover.

So she doesn't meet the standards? Big fucking whoop. She knew that already and she's spent the thousands of dollars trying to do so anyway.

Just curious, how many imperfect men are there in any magazine? I can't remember the last time I saw one. This cuts both ways in our mass media today.