For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

[ChloeTzang]

The UN is really showing their spots.... 1st thing Trump needs to do is defund the UN. Let them pay for all their own bullshit.
Has the Un ever called for the protection of Ukraine's civilians and energy infrastructure?

 

[Rebel5soul]

The UN is really showing their spots.... 1st thing Trump needs to do is defund the UN. Let them pay for all their own bullshit.
Has the Un ever called for the protection of Ukraine's civilians and energy infrastructure?

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I can get behind that.

I would also donate a good chunk of land over in the US Virgin Islands and help them build a new headquarters, noting of course, that we are condemning the New York property. That would solve so many other problems.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Jake Sullivan is one disgusting, evil and hypocritical son of a bitch and has just illustrated the duplicity and evil of the Biden Administration in one interview. When asked if the Biden Administration could have been more decisive in supporting Ukraine with major defense equipment (tanks, F-16s) earlier in the war, Sullivan says none of that matters, and that Ukraine's own manpower shortages are to blame. This sad attempt to wash his hands of any blame is comical to anyone who's followed this conflict since day 1. History won't be kind to Jake Sullivan or to the Biden Administration over this.

Sullivan, asked why hadn't he provided F-16s early in the war, dares to say this: "Look, things didn't change on the battlefield after we'd provided tanks and F-16s. So we were right." He provided 31 tanks two months AFTER Ukraine's counteroffensive had failed. Thirty One! We have thousands of them just sitting there! He stalled and prevaricated and outright refused on F16's for 2 years - the USA has STILL not supplied Ukraine with any F16's - and prevented European countries from providing F16's right at the start. They prevented Sweden sending Gripens by refusing to license the US technology incorporated in the Gripens. The provided a couple of hundred Bradley's - and not all of those have actually been delivered. They shut down 155mm ammo supply for six months. They didn't help fund the Czech ammo initiative. They have stalled and fucked Ukraine over in so many ways with promises and words and then failure to deliver. Not least, now, on F16 pilot training.

And don't get me starting on Blackhawks, A10's, and 2-300 more Bradleys...And then the weasel-faced fucktard has the temerity of blame Ukraine for a "lack of manpower" and accuses Ukraine of not being able to properly fight the second biggest army in the world with tied hands and with crappy old equipment. Jake Sullivan comes across as a blame shifting son of a bitch, and I know he's only part of the triumvirate of cowards, but it's his choice of words here. What an absolute sack of shit. These assholes cannot be evicted from the White House they stole fast enough. They're going to go down as as shit-stain in history.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1858669956029718713

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[Terrylipstick]

James Comer: FBI Doc Alleges ‘Business Person from Ukraine’ Sent ‘Substantial Bribe’ to VP Biden​

WENDELL HUSEBØ7 Jun 2023

The FBI’s informant file of a $5 million bribery scheme allegedly linked to President Joe Biden concerns the family’s business deals in Ukraine, House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer (R-KY) revealed Monday.

In May, Comer and Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) made bombshell claims after reviewing an FBI FD-1023 form that documented the informant’s allegations of an alleged bribery scheme involving an exchange of money for policy decisions between now-President Joe Biden and a foreign national. Comer disclosed the informant tip is dated June 30, 2020.

“Yes, it is Ukraine,” Comer told The Just the News. “This form 1023 involves a business person from Ukraine, who allegedly sent a bribe, a substantial bribe to then Vice President Joe Biden.”

The Biden family frequently visited Ukraine for its respective business. Then-Vice President Joe Biden served as the Obama administration’s Ukrainian “point person” on U.S. foreign policy. He visited Ukraine six times while serving as vice president.

More here: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...m-ukraine-sent-substantial-bribe-to-vp-biden/

I said long ago there is good reason to believe that Joe Biden has been compromised by Ukraine and other countries.

We’re ‘in’ the Ukraine to prevent the spread of Russian hegemony. Every Russian Sokdier that is removed from the battlefield is one less that we may have to fight someday. The Russian economy is in shambles. Defeating them on the Ukrainian battlefield will prevent them from spreading influence in Eastern Europe while nations like Poland build and improve their Armies. Eastern European countries are (terrified is not the right word…) preparing for their ‘turn’ at fighting the Russians. Fuck Russia.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Well Chloe, Sullivan maybe an asshole but the fact is that having a jet and knowing how to fight and maintain that jet are two different things. My point is that the training is substantial and the logistics tail is long.

 

[jomar]

That is indeed another way to look at it, but really, Biden slow walked aid from start to now.

For reasons experts in the know have gamed out.

If he was so concerned with escalation, why would he open the floodgates now, a couple of months before Trump takes over? If Trump nixes aid, it will make no difference.

Putin escalated bringing in North Korea special forces. The calculus changed on a couple of fronts.

Sorry Jomar, this is just one more monumental foreign policy fuckup by Joe Biden. (or whoever has been running him - I mean this latest wasn't even him. He's wandering around lost and confused in the Amazon rainforest). Nope, elect fools, get fuckups. Thank god the adults will be back in charge soon.

^^^ MAGAt talking points.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Well Chloe, Sullivan maybe an asshole but the fact is that having a jet and knowing how to fight and maintain that jet are two different things. My point is that the training is substantial and the logistics tail is long.

Yep. Should have started in February 2022.....

 

[Buffalogurl]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ong-range-Western-weapons-used-territory.html
And so it begins...... the opening Salvo as the US officially enters a kinetic war against the Russians.... remember this day, remember where you were, take long gaze at the abundance of food on the shelves and the warmth of your home.
This has all changed, and like a thief in the night your way of life is gone, remember when your cold, hungry and the letter you received from the two military officials informing you your child was killed in combat dieing for yet another senseless war caused by the democrats and whoremonging rinos...... the red horse of the apocalypse is on the move.....

 

[Buffalogurl]

A second undersea communication cable has been deliberately severed, between Lithuania and Sweden...

 

[ll74]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ong-range-Western-weapons-used-territory.html
And so it begins...... the opening Salvo as the US officially enters a kinetic war against the Russians.... remember this day, remember where you were, take long gaze at the abundance of food on the shelves and the warmth of your home.
This has all changed, and like a thief in the night your way of life is gone, remember when your cold, hungry and the letter you received from the two military officials informing you your child was killed in combat dieing for yet another senseless war caused by the democrats and whoremonging rinos...... the red horse of the apocalypse is on the move.....

Lol...drama queen. You e announced the start of world war 3 for the entirety of this conflict.

"Wolf!"

 

[Buffalogurl]

ChloeTzang...... I'm not sure how long the civilian internet will be working, so I'm taking this opportunity to say, I've enjoyed all of your comments, views, commentary on this war... no I haven't always agreed with what you presented, but I admire your insight, it has tempered my thoughts and strengthened my research abilities..... thank you for that....
On a darker note, I strongly suggest you visit with your grandfather and his brothers about how to survive in a war torn country.... and begin your preps yesterday, and this suggestion goes out to the remaining folks as well
Oh' butters... do take care of your chickens in the coming days your flock will become invaluable.....

 

[Buffalogurl]

Lol...drama queen. You e announced the start of world war 3 for the entirety of this conflict.

"Wolf!"

That's because this entire situation from the beginning is ww3.....

 

[ll74]

That's because this entire situation from the beginning is ww3.....

Yes, you've demonstrated your batshit perspective often.

 

[Holy_Seduction]

“And so it begins...”

Meanwhile …

… a civically chloroformed public [thanks for nothing, Matt Miller] keeps bangin’ their heads against that intransigent, pro-corporate, pro-militarism Democratic Party wall, and will continue to do so even as the fascists we were warned of in the past fortnight, will soon be at our heels.

 

[Holy_Seduction]

“ … this entire situation from the beginning is ww3...”

But perceiving that necessitates a perspective informed by history, an understanding of the class dynamics which shape it, a measure of familiarity with Russian Federation military and nuclear doctrine [very recently revised], etc.

 

[dawnonyou]

James Comer: FBI Doc Alleges ‘Business Person from Ukraine’ Sent ‘Substantial Bribe’ to VP Biden​

WENDELL HUSEBØ7 Jun 2023

The FBI’s informant file of a $5 million bribery scheme allegedly linked to President Joe Biden concerns the family’s business deals in Ukraine, House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer (R-KY) revealed Monday.

In May, Comer and Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) made bombshell claims after reviewing an FBI FD-1023 form that documented the informant’s allegations of an alleged bribery scheme involving an exchange of money for policy decisions between now-President Joe Biden and a foreign national. Comer disclosed the informant tip is dated June 30, 2020.

“Yes, it is Ukraine,” Comer told The Just the News. “This form 1023 involves a business person from Ukraine, who allegedly sent a bribe, a substantial bribe to then Vice President Joe Biden.”

The Biden family frequently visited Ukraine for its respective business. Then-Vice President Joe Biden served as the Obama administration’s Ukrainian “point person” on U.S. foreign policy. He visited Ukraine six times while serving as vice president.

More here: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...m-ukraine-sent-substantial-bribe-to-vp-biden/

I said long ago there is good reason to believe that Joe Biden has been compromised by Ukraine and other countries.

Crime doesn't pay?

 

[dawnonyou]

Your fucked-up thread title says it all, dumbass.

Spoken like a true liberal with name calling as the main tool in the rusty tool box.

 

[Lance_Castro]

The Russia Ukraine War has weakened Russia to the point where it has to borrow troops from Nork.

I call than a Win.

And look at all the stale backstock ammo and outdated hardware NATO’s been able to put on Clearance.

I call that a Win.

 

[Rebel5soul]

The Russia Ukraine War has weakened Russia to the point where it has to borrow troops from Nork.

I call than a Win.

And look at all the stale backstock ammo and outdated hardware NATO’s been able to put on Clearance.

I call that a Win.

Desperate men do desperate things. Launching long range US missiles into Russia proper just might be one step over the line.

 

[ll74]

Desperate men do desperate things. Launching long range US missiles into Russia proper just might be one step over the line.

The sixth red line.

Putin is making Obama's red line look credible