handy advice in sound-bite size

Don't step in the Dogma.
Your shoes don't feet everyone's feet.
'sides they got dogma onit.
 
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measure three times, cut once.​

Measure stands for thinking. This advice works in poetry well only if you think fast. For those who do, it takes them practice (in most of the cases). One has to know what to think about. One can't just think--it'd be mostly worthless.
 
Right, in which case I should bring a so-called poet to the river.

Are you talking about me? Because I am not a poet. I do not know what poetry is, as I said in the answer I gave you (Remember? The answer which you mocked and dismissed). Unlike you, I at least try to keep my ego in check — I am not the one who considers himself a river of knowledge.

Here is my handy advice for you, Senna: just because you're arrogant and impolite, it doesn't mean that others are, too. Don't go assuming others are being "cute".

Whatever knowledge you have isn't worth my time in having to navigate your labyrinth of hostility.
 
Are you talking about me? Because I am not a poet. I do not know what poetry is, as I said in the answer I gave you (Remember? The answer which you mocked and dismissed). Unlike you, I at least try to keep my ego in check — I am not the one who considers himself a river of knowledge.

Butters has started a nice and innocent thread: handy advice in sound-bite size. Then UnderYourSpell, among others, offered a piece of wisdom: You can lead a man to reason, but you can't make him think. To this I responded with a similar one, poetic, this time supposedly by ancient Chinese (possibly other ancient nations had something like this too): You can bring a horse to a river but you can't make it drink. EVERYTHING so far so nice!

Now, Tsotha, you did not contribute another handy advice. Instead, you're offering a joke. Fine. It's a nasty joke, mean, and you already have introduced to this peaceful thread a word like shit (a sign of hostility). But a joke is a joke, fine. Sure, we are supposed to participate in a poetic group, but fine.

So I answer a joke with a joke. And I am not using any hostile, agressive, swear words. So far so good. It's not perfect, the swear words (by you, Tsotha) were not called for, but ok, you were joking.

But now, Tsotha, you talk seriously. Seriously. C'mon, this must be a joke.

But no, you have the impudence to talk about me as a person. You claim that you are so great, that you keep your EGO (your EGO) in check, while I am so terrible that I don't (keep my ego in check). Then why are you concerned with talking so much about yourself and about me? Why do you waste time to compare us? I talk about poetry. I don't tell people how they are, how they should be, what they should think about themselves, I don't give people unasked for and extremely offending advices. I stick to the poems.

Here is my handy advice for you, Senna: just because you're arrogant and impolite, it doesn't mean that others are, too. Don't go assuming others are being "cute".

You have confused the two of us. And don't twist what I said. I didn't call you (ironically) cute. I said that this statement (not you) was cute:

Tsotha:

Senna Jawa, thank you for the reply. I will answer your second question when you make it; you told me to "think", and so I did. If you expect me to decipher the point you're trying to make, this is going to be very non-meritorious indeed. :)

It was this your statement called cute, not you. You can claim that I was wrong about calling this statement cute, that's fine--but don't twist what I said.

Whatever knowledge you have isn't worth my time in having to navigate your labyrinth of hostility.

As you like. I am giving you another chance to continue The Tsotha improvement project. Take it or leave it. And leave my poor person alone.
 
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Butters has started a nice and innocent thread: handy advice in sound-bite size. Then UnderYourSpell, among others, offered a piece of wisdom: You can lead a man to reason, but you can't make him think. To this I responded with a similar one, poetic, this time supposedly by ancient Chinese (possibly other ancient nations had something like this too): You can bring a horse to a river but you can't make it drink. EVERYTHING so far so nice!

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As you like. I am giving you another chance to continue The Tsotha improvement project. Take it or leave it. And leave my poor person alone.

You're giving me another chance? Please. It was I who gave you a chance after you completely disregarded my reply and mocked me. You can reread above my answer to you.

You may disapprove of the "hostile words" I'm saying; I don't much care. At least I mean the things I say. It will be quite clear to anyone who cares to follow the conversation that your "peaceful" proverb was put here as an indirect stab in response to my questioning of your impolite behavior on the other thread, implying that I (the horse) can't drink from the river (take your advice).
 
Never save for tomorrow what you can drink today.
:)

It's a humorous variation of a more serious German advice, something like this:

Eat tomorrow what you would eat today.
Do today what you'd do tomorrow.​

(It's not my style though :) ).
 
It will be quite clear to anyone who cares to follow the conversation that your "peaceful" proverb was put here as an indirect stab in response to my questioning [...]
That's pure paranoia.
 
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do not mistake obfuscation for subtlety, nor lack of imagination for clarity.
 
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write what has to be written, then hack back the deadwood - and when you think it's done, look again, pick up the scalpel...
 
a handy advice to poets

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Poet, do what you want to do anyway
--travel and listen to music.
(wh)​
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for clarity in an already muddied thread

though muddy waters have their own value:

Butters has started a nice and innocent thread:
i did

I don't tell people how they are, how they should be
actually, you have before

what they should think about themselves, I don't give people unasked for and extremely offending advices.
a clear reference, SJ - choosing to be offended over something offered kindly, if perhaps naively, is not the same thing as the message being deliberately offensive

and here:
Yeah, cute, I am sure. Have it your way.
applied to the statement
You can choose to read my message in whatever tone you wish; that is beyond my control. Nonetheless, thank you for the input.
applied to the statement

You have confused the two of us. And don't twist what I said. I didn't call you (ironically) cute. I said that this statement (not you) was cute:
this is obfuscation - Tsotha did not say, nor imply, you were calling him cute.

It was this your statement called cute, not you. You can claim that I was wrong about calling this statement cute, that's fine--but don't twist what I said.
he didn't


SJ, i happen to value the repository of knowledge you have accrued; having said that, i am all too aware not every personality will get along, and on a forum a little give and take goes a long way. There are many people on here with a wealth of knowledge that, when amassed, becomes a fortune, an incredible resource for us all.

unasked for advice directed at Everyone:

sometimes it's good to step down from one's ivory tower, take a little air, feel the grass, embrace the rain, understand the nature of this mud.
 
advice to self:

sitting in a chair, pruning words, will not make the garden stop growing
 
Find a word or two when you are writing that fit the best description of what you want to say and do not use them try to write around them to convey the meaning this idea was imparted to me from a challenge set by angeline, to write an ocean poem but not use the word wet, water, wave etc.
 
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measure three times, cut once.​

Measure stands for thinking. This advice works in poetry well only if you think fast. For those who do, it takes them practice (in most of the cases). One has to know what to think about. One can't just think--it'd be mostly worthless.
wow. this is eerie.
if i didn't know better, it looks like a rare accolade. but it serves as a lead-in

Think Again
 
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