Honesty on the net.

although I don't fathom that all the women are 5'4" and 100 lbs as most of them seem to magically be (read from an earlier post that was highly responded to... no offense to anyone)

Well shit Jade...and I thought ya liked me. <lol>

Not sure if that's a jab at me (being that I've mentioned my towering height of 5'4" on a couple of earlier posts), but in all HONESTY, I personally (and this is JUST me, mind you) find your statement hilarious only because being "magically" 5'4" has been much more a frickin' PAIN IN THE ASS (and not to mention--formidable obstacle professionally) than something for me to brag about. I know 5'4" isn't particularly short (I've even read somewhere that it's the "average" height of women), but HONESTLY, I would MUCH rather be able to say to all of you that I am 5'10" with legs for miles and a killer bod (Oh wait! That last part's true.
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)...but I can't. *ahem* So anyway...my point? Yes...my point. My point is that it has always been my observation that height is a desired quality (even Lasher said so...so it MUST be true <lol...wink> ) and that with height comes respect. So why the hell would I "admit" how short I am? (Now the "weight thang" is a different story...with THAT, I will admit that I could see there being a little more "fudging.")

<holding up right hand> I have in no way "magically" transformed my cyber height from its true reality and will hereby never, in that same respect, misrepresent any physical, or mental for that matter, attribute pertaining to myself. (BTW...while I'm still under oath...I'm a hundred and eighteen pounds.)

Oh...and if this wasn't a jab at me...please kindly disregard all of the aforementioned babble. Thank you.
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[This message has been edited by Lovely Latina (edited 05-07-2000).]
 
I am shocked to find out there is gambling going on at Rick's...
 
Lying is not fun. It destroys part of you and the other person too. I know I have been there and to my shame ended up hurting a very wonderful man. The net is a way to reach others and really connect in a way that isn't always possible in real life. In some ways we are all more real on line I know I am. Xander thanks for sharing that mistake with us. You paid a price as did I and in my case lost someone I loved deeply. Tell the truth or don't answer it's not worth chipping away at your integrity! Hello Ricky.
 
LL, I DO like you ... very very much!! You are one of my favorite people on the board, so NO, definetely my comment was not meant as a stab at you.
As far as the height thing goes, I myself agree with you and have always felt height to be a desirable thing (myself being the same height as yourself) However, it has become hugely (is that word?) apparent to me how desirable a "petite" woman is, in what seems to be a great majority of the stories I have read here on literotica. I often wonder if that is one of the reasons why men are so into teenagers (b/c they are smaller)? Or is it that they want petite woman, b/c their bodies are more like teenagers...? (what they hell am I talking about again?)

Okay well, anyway, I brought up the weight with the height b/c most women don't seem to lie about height, but weight... hell yes! 110 pounds for a 5'4" frame is a very small frame and makes up a very small percentage of women as a whole.
(sigh) yes I promise I am getting winded here.

Additionally, if you are 118, then I can't possibly be ref. to you b/c it is much more likely than 110. If you have a small frame, which, from what I have gathered you do, then that is, for lack of a better term... "perfect."

Slender, yes, but definetely beleivable (sp?)

Okay, I am done!
No hard feelings I hope...

:cool:

~Jade
 
Well I felt I had to reply to this Xander...hhmmm I wonder how many people think I am 5'4 and really thin? I apologize for creating the image that this is really me. I am actually 5'4and 1/2 inches tall, and am in the process of a diet/lifestyle change...I am shaped like a neolithic fertility goddess, so anyone especially in chat who checked that profile saw that I put "true goddess' figure"...They assumed oddly enough that meant thin.And I do not feel bad on the rare times I have cybered it has been a fantasy play anyhow,so what if the person thought me thin,I was not forming a relationship.But here I feel I am geting to know people well enough to be me..Well I am not thin, I used to be- but when my mother died I gained 80 pounds that have tormented me for almost a decade...I am a very sexual person fortunate enough to be married to a man who saw me,at the 120# I have on occassion portrayed my frame carrying, and fell for me. I am married to this man because he loved me for me and was with me as I gained the weight and now thanks to a supportive doctor and years(OH GOD YEARS AND YEARS) of therapy he will be with me at that weight again...Maybe I have been very lucky but over the years I have had the fortunate experience of being with men who found me and my personality erotic so I dated lots of men who were not,in the word's of Baltimore's oddest film maker,John Water's"Chubby Chasers"
Oh and to add to my revelation,I married my hubby in 1991, a year after my mom died...we divorced over his refusal to start a family and his own CRAZY mother who hates me,in 1993...Being an idiot I promptly married(1994) his best friend who had served as our best man...This fellow wanted children sooo badly and foolish me I thought that would fix everything so along came my darling child and off walked hubby #2...well I ranted, raved,earned my culinary degree, dated some great guys,built a career that lets me spend lots of time with my son and slowly lost my beloved grandfather to colon cancer...In the end he starved to death because his body grew too weak to accept any food- this may sound terrible but as a chef I wanted so badly to help and I was totally powerless.He was the person who supported my dream of becoming a chef and when he needed food the most I could not feed him...So I called the person who had always beeen there for me and helped me through everything-hubby 1...he helped me through all that and we realized that we had never lost contact,never stopped being friends and finally that we had never stopped loving each other, so right before Xmas1999 we remarried...much to his mother's horror and my family's great joy...So..good gods I am actually crying as I write this,sorry for the poor grammar..I need to learn how to edit.At any rate the rest of me is me...I am a home schooling/catering/pagan...I look like a soccer mom unless you peek under my shirt and see those dragon tattoos...my auburn curls are touched by silver ealy gray as I am really 32. I actually do have some errant fruit flies as my holistic approach did not eradicate them(please see FRIUT FLIES POST)...So there you go...I look more like the heavy Ricki Lake-not Hairspray heavy, think early talk show- than Zena but I am real in all other regards..Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to address this, now in a way I feel unencumbered to be truly as erotic as I am, since my real body is the image not my body goal. By the way I am on the carb addicts diet and I feel great, although I have probably eaten an entire cow in the last few months...Kisses and love to all
 
Get ready for some serious self-acceptance.
Laugh if you must, but I will have you know that I am totally serious....this step has taken me 5 years to acheive, and the fact that I am sharing it with you means something to me...I only hope it means something to you as well.


Laurel, I think I love you!!!
Well, actually, I love myself.
I am NOT thin, I am what a lot of you people
would call fat. I prefer voluptuous. I have
huge tits and actual hips.

I am through denying myself sexual and intellectual freedoms that others have because I'm not perfect.

I am tired of viewing myself as fat. I am tired of making excuses for what I look like.
As genetics determined, my body changed after I had my child. I do exercise, I do eat right. I have low blood pressure and normal cholesterol levels. I may not be perfect, but the doctor says I'm healthy.

I am beautiful. More importantly, I am me.

You don't have to like me. You don't have to respect me. I don't care. What I do hope, is that each one of you come to the same conclusion someday. Because we are all beautiful people. We all deserve to be loved.

Thank you for your time.

SJ
 
Sorry, LL, I'm married to a woman that's 5'11 and on any given day may or may not have dyed her hair red again, so until I'm sure that she's not Roger Simian, I have to say things like that or fear the possiblility of having my ass kicked.

Now, back to the subject at hand. I've said this before, but not all of you were here so I'll say it again. When I hang out in chatrooms I lie like a fucking rug. I'm sorry that there are people that take that shit seriously, but that's not my problem - and I feel no need to apoligize for the things I have done and said in chatrooms.

Here's my view on chatrooms. Being the real "Lasher" is a full-time job. I have a wife, 2 careers, many freinds, 2 cats and an overcrowded fish tank. If I have issues in my life I need to work out, I can talk to my wife, or one of my friends, or one of the cats - or even the fish if the cats won't listen. The last thing I need is advice from someone who might possibly be more full of shit than I am.

So, when I go cruising into a chatroom, it is for entertainment ONLY (they should have the disclaimer they used to show at the bottom of the Psychic Friends Network commercials scroll across the screen when you log into a chatroom). Sometimes that entertainment involves me portraying the character of a 32yr old male that is remarkably similar to the real "Lasher". Other times I just make shit up as I go. So be it. As long as I'm having fun then I'm doing what I went there to accomplish.

Now, if you're the type that takes chatrooms seriously, then you've probably been offended by what I'm saying - too fucking bad. You know damn well when you enter those things that 90% of the people are lying thru their teeth, and another 9.9% are making themselves at least look better than they are. It's all part of the game - and that's exactly what chatrooms are, one big giant fucking Role Playing game. The sooner that people accept that, the happier they are going to be.

[This message has been edited by Lasher99 (edited 05-07-2000).]
 
Lasher. I agree that the chatrooms is one big roleplaying gig. And I have no problem with that.
As I've said before, it's when serious emtions is involved the problems start. And one can fall in love over the net. With the chance to be Bullshitted big time.
I interact with quite a few people from this BB, outside the comforting world of Laurel.
You know who you are
I wouldn't dream about lying to them. Why should I. I consider them friends, for better or worse. I leave it up to you to decide which.
There's no chance in hell, I will do, what I've done before, again.
 
Hi All:

I know, I'm not a regular "poster" here, but I have been following this thread, as well as the others closely associated with it. I guess why I don't post is 'cause I'm slightly intimadated by those with more education than I. (Barely graduated HS in 1960)

Anyway, my comments:
If there is ONE of us that haven't told small "white lies" on the BB or in a chat room, then YOU can throw rocks. The rest of us need to sit back and take a long hard look at ourselves before we criticize others.

Personally, I admire Roger for 'fessing up. That took a lot of guts, knowing the reactions that he could expect. And that he received.

I'm a regular in the chat room, and yes, at times I'v told little "white lies". (Exagerrated my sexual prowess). But, hell, we all do that. Does that make us bad? Don't think so. Everyone that is a reg in the chat room knows me. I've been honest with them in all the important aspects of my being. All of them know that I'm a 57 y/o, almost bald dude, that is deeply in love with a lady from OK who is incarcerated. They all know that I staunchly defend the ladies from unwanted/unwarranted attacks by butt heads. Does that make up for my "white lies"? NO, but they all realize and recognize when I exaggerate, so there's no harm.

Sammyjo: there's NOTHING wrong with being "voluptous". I, personally, look at the inner person, not the "package" that it comes in. As a skinny, older than dirt, almost bald, old man, I'm happy with myself, and that's all that counts. Besides, Budlady loves me just the way that I am. And THAT pleases me. (She's 5'2" 160 lbs, and I LOVE every ounce of her)

Well, enuff. Probably ticked off a few, pleased a few with this post. Oh well.

Take care.

Budman
 
sammyjo, earthgoddess, LL, all you women - you ARE beautiful! You're intelligent, sexy, and your vibrance and beauty shines through in every post you make. Rock on, sistas!

And you men, Xander, Lasher (even if you are married to Roger), all you guys... you're beautiful and intelligent too. I can't say much more than that or Manu will get jealous...lol
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Originally posted by cg1369:
I guess why I don't post is 'cause I'm slightly intimadated by those with more education than I. (Barely graduated HS in 1960)

Budman, you shouldn't feel intimidated by being just a high school graduatee circa 1960. I'm a high school graduate circa 1968, and of the opinion that our education was better than the average high school senior will have when they graduate next month.

Note to all the teachers that frequent this happy little place: I'm NOT trying to start a debate on education here. I'm simply pointing out that high school plus 32 or 39 years of staying alive is as much education as anyone really needs to be considered literate.

However, if you'd like to debate the quality of a contemporary education, start another thread, and I'll be happy to jump right in.
 
sammyjo, earthgoddess, LL, all you women - you ARE beautiful! You're intelligent, sexy, and your vibrance and beauty shines through in every post you make. Rock on, sistas!

Laurel...


*MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMWHUH!*


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(Little more tongue next time, k?)
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I'm married to Lasher? When did all this happen? Nobody invited me. Was it a big wedding?

rog
xx
 
Lovely Latina - Loofah. Loooooo-fah. And smooches back atcha...

Roger - yeah, it was a surprise to us as well when Lasher mentioned the possibility. This whole Rachel/Roger thing has more twists & turns than The Maltese Fuckin'.
 
LMAO @ the lot of you - yeah even you Rog - all is forgiven! Laurel you spoke da truth - you sistas gotta learn to love yourselves and allow to yourselves to BE LOVED for what you are - sexy, funny, sparky, caring, giving... Sammyjo - so happy to see your posting - you finally got to that stage, girl - I'm hanging out the flags and ordering up a very big band for the parade ...

And LL just one thing, can you help me pronounce MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMWHUH

I'm just not sure it sounds the same over here in what you guys quaintly term "British English"
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[This message has been edited by golden (edited 05-08-2000).]
 
Thanx, Golden. I ABSOLUTELY promise I won't do it again.

Well... apart from that last post there.

And maybe a few others.

In fact, I better just come clean about the whole thing - I'm also Dixon Carter Lee, Tawny T, Lovely Latina, Weird Harold, Deborah, Lasher, Gil, Angelique, Katerina, Xander and Laurel.

But my most convincing creation of all was the one they call "Golden".

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On a related subject - my Mum's just told me this story she saw on a British talk show (Kilroy, I think), where a woman met her ideal man on the internet - he was nice, condsiderate, sensitive and caring. All the things that had been missing from all her previous relationships with men. So, the couple met - she travelling up from England to Scotland - and spent a wonderful evening together getting to know each other. They even ended up sharing the same bed ('No hanky-panky, though,' according to my Mum). It was only after all that, that the "man" revealed himself to be a woman (they must put something in Scottish water, I think) . Not a transvestite or a she-to-he sex-change, mind - JUST A WOMAN WITH A SHORT HAIR-CUT. I'm a little confused how "he" managed to conceal "his" gender for a whole evening - INCLUDING WHILE THEY WERE IN BED TOGETHER. (God, I think I should be a tabloid journalist with all these higher-case sentences.)

Anyway, it turns out that she (a completely hereosexual woman 'til this point) forgave "he" and they're now living together as a lesbian couple.

Please someone tell me the moral of this story.

rog
 
Originally posted by Xander:
This has been up for a number of times. Honesty on the net, when it's so easy to lie about everything you are.

Let's be honest. What do you really gain by lying about yourself???


DAMNED 500 errors. Fifty-four attempts before getting in....arrrghhh.

I agree, whats the use of lying? you guys have caught me red-handed. I'm not Greg Lee Hunt I'm really

William Jefferson Clinton.. oh sorry,

Richard Milhouse Nixon... no that's not right either...

Orenthal James Simpson!

Woody Allen!!

Baron von Munchausen!!!

Pinocchio!!!

Pinochhio, yeah that's the ticket!
 
Look - that little wooden Italian boy's nose keeps growing longer and longer. He must be excited about something.

rs

(Do you like my new affectation: just using my initials for my signature? I think it gives me a certain air of dignity.)
 
The net can be a great big stinking role play if you want it to be. Some people feel the need to create a alter ego to blow steam/energy/make themselves feel better/be in control of a out of control life...
There are many reasons why people lie and I am no head doctor to explain it all.
 
Hi, there, Dionysus.

Just wanted to say I'm pleased that even mythological Greeks have started getting in on this internet malarky.

I trust that IS your real name.
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Anyway - welcome to the BB, Sir.

roger
 
ah Roger. Caught in my own web. I make beer,mead and wine at home. Hence the name. Dionysus is a extension of what I do, not what I want to be or become. Thanks for the weelcome.
 
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