how do i overtake him just for a little bit?

*applause for Catalina*

Very, very well-said.

(I didn't mean that partners have to switch, by the way - just that it can be enlightening for those couples for whom it works.)
 
Catalina's wisdom

There is, as Etoile attests, a lot of wisdom to Catilana's words. Most of us are what we are, but that doesn't necessarily preclude a bit of variation. It's not something I've ever had much interest in, but the inspiration has struck once or twice.

Many years ago, in a very intimate and intense relationship, I switched with my girl. The understanding was simple, that in the time allotted I was hers. But when we were done, she would be mine again. It was also understood that I planned on paying her back in spades. Now, half-way or so into our interlude I had reason to question the wisdom of the bargain I struck. When we were done, or when I was finished with her, I at first thought that I had in fact gotten the better part of the deal. But as time went on, it became a rather "sweet" memory. And for weeks after that our time together was even more intense.

Perhaps it's my overly verbal nature, but I've always enjoyed talking about the pain inflicted, the acts performed, the poses struck, the state of mind before, during, and after training or playing or punishment. Anyway, I'm rambling...
 
Re: Catalina's wisdom

Peter2002 said:
There is, as Etoile attests, a lot of wisdom to Catilana's words. Most of us are what we are, but that doesn't necessarily preclude a bit of variation. It's not something I've ever had much interest in, but the inspiration has struck once or twice.


I am an advocate for variation, but in this I still maintain it is not transferrable in pure essence. If able to switch, while still predominantly dominant, the perception of the experience is going to be coloured by aspects of your dominance, in other words a dominants experience of being a submissive, but nnever 100% the experience of a submissive being a sub. Similarly, the experience as sub or dominant is going to differ with each new partner, just as sex usually is in subsequent vanilla relationships. It is the interplay, as well as the individual personalities of each, which make up the finished experience. And I can well imagine, as a pain slut myself, why you may be preoccupied with the effects.

Catalina:D
 
Re: Re: Catalina's wisdom

catalina_francisco said:
I am an advocate for variation, but in this I still maintain it is not transferrable in pure essence. If able to switch, while still predominantly dominant, the perception of the experience is going to be coloured by aspects of your dominance, in other words a dominants experience of being a submissive, but nnever 100% the experience of a submissive being a sub. Similarly, the experience as sub or dominant is going to differ with each new partner, just as sex usually is in subsequent vanilla relationships. It is the interplay, as well as the individual personalities of each, which make up the finished experience. And I can well imagine, as a pain slut myself, why you may be preoccupied with the effects.

Catalina:D

The effects are intellectually delicious to me, which might explain why I so love pain sluts.:heart:

But here's what I learned from that experience. Well, here's what I think learned that was applicable not only to my girl but in some general sense to many submissives:

There is something extremely stimulating -- even if at times scary, or perhaps I should say aprehension inducing -- about having another person (in this case a lover) focus all of their erotic energy and imagination on you and only you. This wasn't a case of, "I'll tell you who I was thinking about if you'll tell me." It wasn't role play. That afternoon, I think I understood a bit better what made her -- and me -- tick. And I gave her an extremely long and extrememly slow caning to celebrate that fact.

It's still a memory of Proustian intensity.
 
Re: Re: Re: Catalina's wisdom

Peter2002 said:
The effects are intellectually delicious to me, which might explain why I so love pain sluts.:heart:

But here's what I learned from that experience. Well, here's what I think learned that was applicable not only to my girl but in some general sense to many submissives:

There is something extremely stimulating -- even if at times scary, or perhaps I should say aprehension inducing -- about having another person (in this case a lover) focus all of their erotic energy and imagination on you and only you. This wasn't a case of, "I'll tell you who I was thinking about if you'll tell me." It wasn't role play. That afternoon, I think I understood a bit better what made her -- and me -- tick. And I gave her an extremely long and extrememly slow caning to celebrate that fact.

It's still a memory of Proustian intensity.

Yes, I will be reminding myself how much I love pain when we begin to prepare to redo my cutting in the not too distant future. :eek:

C
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Catalina's wisdom

catalina_francisco said:
Yes, I will be reminding myself how much I love pain when we begin to prepare to redo my cutting in the not too distant future. :eek:

C


I'm sure your master realizes what a lucky man he is. :rose:

-- Peter
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Catalina's wisdom

Peter2002 said:
I'm sure your master realizes what a lucky man he is. :rose:

-- Peter

Yes, we are both fortunate and make sure we remember to acknowledge that to each other every day. Sure wish more could experience this bliss.

C
 
shysexkitten said:
i just want him to know what i go through when he has me tied down i want him to know what goes through my head when hes spanking me and talking down to me. i want him to know what it feels like to be hes bitch and slave at any minute that he wants me to be at his will. He needs to know in order to appreciate me

I have been requested to try and put these feelings into prose... I will give it my humble best effort.

I want you to tremble, and know it is my doing. I want you give up control, and know that your trust is the most precious thing you have to give. I want you to feel... to feel the desire, the fear, the pain, and the release that you give me. I want you know the freedom of being bound, and the despair of knowing you are at my mercy. I want you to beg, and understand that it may be in vain. I want you to know me, to understand all that I bring to you, and how precious a gift I give.
 
posted by dearest niteshade ... I want you to know me, to understand all that I bring to you, and how precious a gift I give.
He is shocked by her admission. Is she this clueless? Has she really no idea the pain he already carries. ‘Steady, boy, don’t give away any emotion. Don’t strike her. She is terrified enough, waiting, sweating, knees sore and beginning to quiver. God, she is beautiful. She thinks I’m angry, but I’m not, this is very funny. I must not laugh, he thinks. This could be serious. She is revealing something to me she has never revealed before. He paces around her and she continues her demure defiance, not looking away from the infinite spot on the ground before her. “Stay”, he commands and goes into his study. She hears him open his drawer and he returns with a ruler. “Put this under your knees while I think of how to respond to your request.” …
 
da grunt ponders

He goes to his throne, his lazy boy, where he adjusts his attitude and he ponders, ’How do I treat this? This is a free goddamn country and she is free to leave if she doesn’t like the way I treat her, but do I treat her so badly, or do I give her what she wants? She begs, I give. Now, she wants me to know how ‘it’ feels. Sheeit, dilemma. I enjoy my status, she makes me feel like the warrior that I am, not the fuckin’ compromising son of a bitch that society makes me feel. Pain? Don’t mean nuthin’! Don’t mean nuthin’. Don’t mean nuthin’. An old, stale, double negative. It means everything.’

‘I go through life like a raging bull and its too fuckin’ bad if the world if the world has turned into a china shop. Always I go the opposite direction from the crowd and always am I ready to fight. Never have I yielded.’

‘She is always there for me, always ready to help me coop, and now she has a bug up her ass. Why? What if she likes it? Sheeit, what if I like it? Its not like I don’t need my ass kicked, jesus, I need to be taught some humility! And her? What if she likes it, and what if she is good at it? What if she grows beyond me? Wouldn’t that be to my greater testament and glory?’

‘Besides which there is some motivation behind her request. Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back.’


He looks at her, his precious, her agony, her ecstasy. He wonders if he is cruel, and he decides. …
 
da grunt continues

She hears him stand and re-enter his study, but this time the sounds are different. She hears the closet opening and the trunk being slide across the floor. She know which truck he’s opening. He is opening the trunk which she is not allowed to open. She hears the creak of leather from the old trunk, and she hears the lid close. He walks behind her and watches her. His precious. She suffers for him with complete unselfishness yet she is still so brave, so audacious. Audacity and bravery deserve reward, but now she needs to be taught a painful lesson. He know what he needs to do.

As she stares at the floor he throws a tool she’d never seen before, a tool she had no idea that he even had. It was a six foot bullwhip. Terror runs through her body, chills of fear …
 
dialog

“I’ve decided to grant your wish, however you must earn the right if you want to use me as your toy. Its already too late. Should you not comply our relationship will end. Its too late to change your mind, you go or you stay, you stay you play by my rules. Understand?

If you comply fully, the whip will not be used. If you do not, that whip will draw blood today.

Speak wench!" ...

**************

G'nite Chesty. Anybody wanna answer as 'the wench', please feel free. I got the rest of my fable ready, so whenever I get wound up.

What I'd really like is for kitten to respond now, with her thoughts, before I lay down the next part.

I don't think niteshade is real comfty demonstrating control, nor does she have that particular 'bug up her bum', but I'm nutz for her avatar. I'd truly enjoy having her continue with the excercise, but I'm afraid she struggles with the role, as I do.
 
Re: dialog

da grunt, hurt that no one wants to interact on this thread, continues his story Speak wench!" ...
She is terrified, terrified but thrilled when she sees the whip. Fear and excitement duel deep in her stomach. She know that she deals close to the edge, that she must obey perfectly. "I comply fully, Master, of my own free will."

He walks before her and removes her leash. "As badly as you deserve it I will not punish you now, as I don't particularly want those pesky endorphines stimulating you right now. Now stand." And she stands. "Let me smell your hands," and she presents her hands. He inspects them then brings them to his nose and inhales deeply. Wonderfully clean, smelling of delicate flowers and no hint that she may have been playing with herself. Her nails and cuticles are in good shape, she is not damaging herself. Excellent! "Spread your legs," and she does...
 
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and then ...

da grunt trying to write a friggin' story "Spread your legs," and she does...
He falls to his knees before her and inhales the essence of her passion. His hands fall to her feet and deeply massage, his large hands engulfing her foot, each groove in his hand, each callous and ridge, each palm line and fingerprint, each pore and nerve ending pushing, constricting, expanding, like the body of a snake, always deeply always pushing towards the heart, all the while inhaling the lovely fragrance, so closely, yet untouched. His hands continue, around her ankles and up her calves, deeply, feeling every muscle, kneading that flesh, needing that flesh ...
 
kneading

da grunt, moving right along ...kneading that flesh, needing that flesh ...
His hands work toward her knees. Her poor knees, so red, flat spots where she had squat on her own for so long, and an angry red ridge cut across both knees from his torment to her knees. Her precious kness.

He examines them closely and uses his thumb to explore the joints, searching for any damage, massaging with infinate care. He prostrates himself before her and kisses her knees and uses stiff lips to gently chew the angry red ridge and his tongue to lavishly caress those poor precious knees.
 
from the knees

He returns to smelling her essence, her wetness, her desire. He continues to use his big hands to continually push up, toward the heart, leaving no vane nor untouched, but never allowing his fingers or thumb to taint the wonderful odor of her wanton desire.

He observes her face, she is chewing her lower lip, eyes closed and beads of persperation forming.
 
yummy part

He lifts her left leg over his right shoulder and puts his nose as close to her pussy as he can, and he stretches his arm from under her and up her back until he can grab her braids. He takes both braids in his hands and pulls her head back, and as he does he stands holding her elevated. He puts her right leg over his left shoulder and hangs her back, even further. Then he tastes. oh god, she is wet, delicious, so sweet. He takes her clit in his teeth and chews while he sucks and rubs with his tongue. His lips chew on her pristine lips and his extends his tongue, knowing that he can find that very special spot. Find that spot he does, not caring how ridiculous his face must look in trying. He sensed her excitement. As he held her suspended he knew how close she was to climax.

"Master, please, Master, I must cum, oh please Master, please."

"Yes, wench, you cum while I tongue spank you," he commanded. He curled his tongue behind his top front teeth and snapped it down against her clit, and as she went though her climatic throws he tried to make the tongue snap harder each time and afterwards licked and groomed her precious twat.

"Damn, that was tasty," he said as he lowered her legs from his shoulders and then she was held, the full of her weight on the inside of his elbow. He rubbed his arm back and forth, like a twenty incher, pressing against her tender lips.

"Enough of this shit, time for your lesson" ...
 
and then, and then

He lowered her to the ground and land held her face so that he looked deeply into her eyes. "This is extremely important to me. You will have two tests, and if you fail both of these tests the whip will be used until blood is drawn, and in the end you will know some of what I know and I hope you will come to a realization. Sometimes the hardest lesson teaches the best. Are you ready?"

He tucks his tie into his white shirt, and stands relaxed, the forward foot facing his slave and his back foot perpendicular to it. His hands comfortable in front of him, with elbows bent. The Aikido stance, ready for anything. "Let me see your fist!" he commands. She shows him her fist and he takes her thumb and makes it tighter and he commands her, "You must make a fist a tight as possible, that way you don't damage your hand, and you damage the thing you're hitting more." When he is happy with her fist he commands, "Hit me!"
 
all ready on the left ...

"Master, I cannot," she replied, "I cannot hurt you."

He laughs and says, in his deadly quiet voice, "You silly twit, thats the lesson. You can't hurt me. Now, goddamnit, you're going to hit me 50 times. If you do this adequately, and you try hard enough, I may bypass the second test, but you had better goddamn well give this your best shot! You will not like what happens if you don't try hard enough. Now, hit me!"
 
all ready on the right ...

da grunt "Now, hit me!"
She pulls back her right fist above her shoulder and swings an overhead shot to his left shoulder. "Pathetic. You hit like a girl. If you're going to be my vassal you'd better do better than that. Put your weight behind it. Again!"
 
all ready on the firing line ...

da grunt "... Again!" [/B]
She rares back and swings again, much like the first swing, but this blow hits him in the chest. He laughs. "Absolutely pa-fuckin'thetic! Turn around so I can show you how to hit," and he spins her around, and brings her elbows in and her fists where he wants them. "You can't hurt someone by swinging your arms unless you're really lucky. You have to put your bodies weight behind you and pivot from your waist, like this," and he shows her. "This is a jab, you use it to keep your oponent away, and you snap it out, like this ... and this is your power arm, after you set up with the jab you use you power arm ... this is a cross ... this is a haymaker ... this is an underhand ... this is an overhand ... you must get behind your punch ... okay .. better ... okay ... thats it ... okay ... ready?"

He turns her to again face him and commands, "Now hit me!"
 
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some feedback

Da Grunt, i am not sure how you do it but you seem to combind every fantasy i have into prose. Thank you for your service.. it is most kind. I just want him to understand the felling of serving him and the thoughts that race through my head when he says good girl. the thought that i have pleased him. i want him to understand what happens to me when i know that everyaspect of my life for the amount of time we are together is in his control and what he wants to do with my body he does. I have to trust him and thats what i want from him trust in me
 
Re: some feedback

Originally posted by shysexkitten ... I have to trust him and thats what i want from him trust in me
Excellent! Thanks for the feedback. I will finish this story, and I will incorporate your last post, somehow, and I'd like for you to contribute your feelings at any time. I'm lousy at understanding the female mind, and when I prose in the feminine I'm likely full of shit, and my perception of a 'masterful' session may not be anyone else's. :rose:
 
fire when ready ...

da grunt cotinues his story ... "Now hit me!"
Again she draws back the same right arm and swings a crazy overhead haymaker which hits him in the right bicep. Almost inperceptively he moves, turning his hips so that it is not her fist, but her wrist which strikes.

"Didn't I just try and teach you something? Damn, I've got to be able to trust you, and that means you've got to be able to protect my back. If you can't fight when you need to fight you are no good to me. I want you to be a savage, my savage. Now, fighting stance! Now jab, good, again, good, again, good, again, good, again, that's it you're getting the hang of it, now lets mix it up, jab, jab, punch, good girl, jab, punch, punch, excellent, but harder, try harder."

As he encourages her his body is alive under his shirt, moving slightly forward, slightly back, a little up, a little down, a tiny bit right, left, all his movement from the hips.
 
Rapid fire ...

da grunt ... As he encourages her his body is alive under his shirt, moving slightly forward, slightly back, a little up, a little down, a tiny bit right, left, all his movement from the hips.
"Harder, jab, jab, faster, punch, jab, now cross, get back and jab, punch, jab, punch, faster, faster, harder, faster, jesus you're weak, harder, faster, goddamn work, harder, harder, pick it up, come on, faster, faster, harder, harder, faster, damnit you've only got 10 friggin' hits left and you haven't qualified yet, not harder, faster, come on, don't stop, come on. Alright, cool, I think that's 50, you can stop now."

She is breathless from the exercise, he mearly watches her. She has not learned.

"Tomorrow, when you examine my body you will find no bruises, but you may find bruises on your forearms, which took the brunt of your misplaced blows. I would like to teach you to fight, I must teach you to fight because as weak as you are I could not count on you in a fight. Regardless, this is for later. Now you must pass another test. Are you ready?"
 
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