I'm out...

FungiUg said:
Hmmm... working under a submissive... interesting thought! :devil:


Eeeek, a Kiwi at my side?!! Oh well maybe with Franciisco along we could begin to whip the rest of the world into shape after all. LOL

Catalina :rose:
 
FungiUg said:
Hmmm... working under a submissive... interesting thought! :devil:
Topping from the bottom shall we say? ... chuckling.

Enjoy your evening/morning folks.

i'm out to kill people in cyberspace.

Nothing like running with a pack of brother veterans all over 'leet cyberpunks and every hack they can throw at us.

Aged trickery will overcome youthful exuberance every time.
 
Re: i remember a Disney book ...

AngelicAssassin said:
about letting the genie out of the bottle ... way before Robin Williams and Aladdin.

This shot reminded me of that story's attempt to teach young children about the nuclear age ...

sun.JPG

I had that book too very good descrition of nuclear power in it...
 
SilkVelvet said:
Hi making a rare and fleeting visit here because Lit just doesn't seem the same anymore. Remember that thread that was more or less about whether there is such a thing as a natural Dom ?? Went on for weeks, had my brain confuzzed and thoroughly intellectually challenged and er I have an IQ of 102 although my grammar is sh!t much of the time :( (UK state education what can I say ?)

As our society gets dumbed down it seems that uneducated people with not much to say for themselves are always the ones to be found postulating on radio phone ins and dominating Internet chat forums until those who want a bit of intellectual stimulation and to learn, give up. :(

We live in a world where the soundbite is paramount, and where you can spend months even years making a TV programme, but if it doesn't grab the viewers' attention in the first 10 sec, they turn over. So how can you expect the unsilent majority to have a better attention span than a gnat or more than the memory of a goldfish ?

And heck actually I'd rather flirt IRL, it's much more fun when you get actual eye contact ;)


I'm sorry that you're writing Lit off so soon. Life is too short and hard to be constantly serious and introspective. And this time of year what with the bad traffic, the crazy shoppers, the insane family get togethers - I think we could all use a place to just kick back and relax. I suspect that the forum will take up a more serious note again after the new year. Personally, I am grateful for the opportunity to hone my flirting skills, to gather strength in my attractiveness and recieve support in my quest for real life companionship (against all the ups and downs of single life).

And if you tell people they are uneducated or dumbing down the community because they flirt and joke online... well that isn't going to get you a warm reception.... oh and if you want a intellectual discussion regarding something... start up your own thread on the talk forum... you'll get the reception you're looking for there. I know I'll be grateful for a good thread to read that has a serious tone... til then, stop complaining about a lack of intellectual discussion unless you're going to start one (besides what you just said that is ;) )
 
SilkVelvet said:
Hi making a rare and fleeting visit here because Lit just doesn't seem the same anymore. Remember that thread that was more or less about whether there is such a thing as a natural Dom ?? Went on for weeks, had my brain confuzzed and thoroughly intellectually challenged and er I have an IQ of 102 although my grammar is sh!t much of the time :( (UK state education what can I say ?)

As our society gets dumbed down it seems that uneducated people with not much to say for themselves are always the ones to be found postulating on radio phone ins and dominating Internet chat forums until those who want a bit of intellectual stimulation and to learn, give up. :(

We live in a world where the soundbite is paramount, and where you can spend months even years making a TV programme, but if it doesn't grab the viewers' attention in the first 10 sec, they turn over. So how can you expect the unsilent majority to have a better attention span than a gnat or more than the memory of a goldfish ?

And heck actually I'd rather flirt IRL, it's much more fun when you get actual eye contact ;)




Yes it was a great thread, but we have to just be silly at times too. There is a glut of sound bites. I float from serious to silly. I like that there is a silly place for BDSM. It makes new people feel safe and warm. They aren't afraid to post. Too many serious threads scare off a lot of new people as they fear sounding silly or uninformed. We have a great library for facts. I just hope we never forget we are people too. I need to smile as much as the nilla guy. I don't want a circus but I don't want a think tank either. I hope you stay because every voice counts. Every post can effect change, only silence changes nothing.
 
SilkVelvet said:
Hi making a rare and fleeting visit here because Lit just doesn't seem the same anymore. Remember that thread that was more or less about whether there is such a thing as a natural Dom ?? Went on for weeks, had my brain confuzzed and thoroughly intellectually challenged and er I have an IQ of 102 although my grammar is sh!t much of the time :( (UK state education what can I say ?)

As our society gets dumbed down it seems that uneducated people with not much to say for themselves are always the ones to be found postulating on radio phone ins and dominating Internet chat forums until those who want a bit of intellectual stimulation and to learn, give up. :(

We live in a world where the soundbite is paramount, and where you can spend months even years making a TV programme, but if it doesn't grab the viewers' attention in the first 10 sec, they turn over. So how can you expect the unsilent majority to have a better attention span than a gnat or more than the memory of a goldfish ?

And heck actually I'd rather flirt IRL, it's much more fun when you get actual eye contact ;)


LOL, you are missed I can assure you but girl when you decide to make a re-entry you sure know how to cut to the chase. I admire that and see where you are coming from.

Catalina :rose:
 
SkylineBlue said:
I'm sorry that you're writing Lit off so soon. Life is too short and hard to be constantly serious and introspective. And this time of year what with the bad traffic, the crazy shoppers, the insane family get togethers - I think we could all use a place to just kick back and relax. I suspect that the forum will take up a more serious note again after the new year. Personally, I am grateful for the opportunity to hone my flirting skills, to gather strength in my attractiveness and recieve support in my quest for real life companionship (against all the ups and downs of single life).

And if you tell people they are uneducated or dumbing down the community because they flirt and joke online... well that isn't going to get you a warm reception.... oh and if you want a intellectual discussion regarding something... start up your own thread on the talk forum... you'll get the reception you're looking for there. I know I'll be grateful for a good thread to read that has a serious tone... til then, stop complaining about a lack of intellectual discussion unless you're going to start one (besides what you just said that is ;) )

Mmmmm, well SV has not made a hasty decision, just she has not been around these parts much since before your joining. I know it is put down to seasonal things etc., but I don't think that is the whole problem, and know from others who have long departed that it is not one or two who feel the board has been overtaken with levity of a few long ago. There is no problem with such fun, and as I am sure you know SV was the brains behind BDSM Word Assoc., so she like the rest of us is not up herself and saying out with all funsters, just advocating in the best interests of the board popularity and reputation remaining, and fairness for all who love this lifestyle, that there be some sort of balance between fun and serious discussion.

I myself have no problem with both co-existing, but do find it frustrating when there is a serious discussion thriving and some come on making the thread a chit chat and flirt thread, breaking up the discussion to a point it then is taken over and the serious discussion ends....and you might say well if people wanted to continue they would and could, but it is made too difficult when every serious post is followed by a page of funny ha ha...most stop trying to skim through that to follow the original topic and continuing discussion. I cannot see why this can't be respected so everyone's needs are met. It is not like there is nowhere to have fun (and I note on a couple of occasions when people mistook a fun thread for serious it did not go down well with the funsters), and the respect go both ways and we continue to have a happy and diverse community with something for everyone? Take a look around at how many are no longer posting here on a regular or anytime basis and ask why?

Catalina :rose:
 
snoozebutton said:
Yes it was a great thread, but we have to just be silly at times too. There is a glut of sound bites. I float from serious to silly. I like that there is a silly place for BDSM. It makes new people feel safe and warm. They aren't afraid to post. Too many serious threads scare off a lot of new people as they fear sounding silly or uninformed. We have a great library for facts. I just hope we never forget we are people too. I need to smile as much as the nilla guy. I don't want a circus but I don't want a think tank either. I hope you stay because every voice counts. Every post can effect change, only silence changes nothing.

As I have said to SB, SV is not our only loss here, and will not be our last. All she and others are asking for is respect and balance. Fun may make you feel comfortable, but for someone seeking to talk seriously about something they are having real issues over it can just as effectively scare them away as you say seriousness does. I also think to a degree if you want to be in this lifestyle and you find it so impossible to find the courage to make an anonymous posting, (especially as most who do post are greeted with warmth and unlimited encouragement) then you might find you are going to have a lot more serious issues to overcome before you are going to feel safe and happy in any sort of BDSM relationship, play or serious.

There are plenty of fun BDSM and vanilla boards around, few which offer a balance of both and a place where information can be trusted and based on fact. I find reading info sites and essays interesting to a point, but also gets a bit boring and very often presents just one person's view of how something is or should be. I have learned far more through open discussion which has presented a variety of viewpoints and experiences, as well as allowing myself and others to explore their own reality.

Catalina :rose:
 
catalina_francisco said:
I also think to a degree if you want to be in this lifestyle and you find it so impossible to find the courage to make an anonymous posting, (especially as most who do post are greeted with warmth and unlimited encouragement) then you might find you are going to have a lot more serious issues to overcome before you are going to feel safe and happy in any sort of BDSM relationship, play or serious.


Catalina :rose:

Please forgive the snips...

This has nothing to do with the point that you were making, but I'll share anyway. There exists a thread right now that I really want to comment on, but I feel I can't due to my experiences here with another person. I guess that happens in any group of people where couples meet and then go their separate ways. I wonder how many others find themselves in that position and how they handle it.
 
redelicious said:
Please forgive the snips...

This has nothing to do with the point that you were making, but I'll share anyway. There exists a thread right now that I really want to comment on, but I feel I can't due to my experiences here with another person. I guess that happens in any group of people where couples meet and then go their separate ways. I wonder how many others find themselves in that position and how they handle it.

I can relate to what you are saying and empathise. My only bit of thought on this would be to remember you have just as much right to contribute as anyone, including someone you may have been involved with. I would think if it is making you feel this way, you may have a greater need to join back in the discussions as an individual, if only to help you re-establish that feeling of belonging, communication, and sharing. It is not going to be easy, but perhaps you might find it easier if you set it up as your own personal limit to push, and challenge to overcome. Good luck.

Catalina :rose:
 
catalina_francisco said:
I can relate to what you are saying and empathise. My only bit of thought on this would be to remember you have just as much right to contribute as anyone, including someone you may have been involved with. I would think if it is making you feel this way, you may have a greater need to join back in the discussions as an individual, if only to help you re-establish that feeling of belonging, communication, and sharing. It is not going to be easy, but perhaps you might find it easier if you set it up as your own personal limit to push, and challenge to overcome. Good luck.

Catalina :rose:

Stupid post got sent before I wrote anything. Weird.

Anyway, I did have that need especially at first. You know, I felt like I didn't have a place anywhere. To be honest we didn't post much here as a couple anyway, but that was before this cafe section existed. (Our relationship played out on the playground).
The funny thing is that now that I am out of the relationship I find myself thinking in ways I'm not sure that I would have before. I don't know if it's the experience or the different perspective, but I know I've continued to grow and I have posted when I thought I had something to contribute. I do find that there is a fine line between what is ok from my past to talk about and what might be misconstrued as an attack. It's often better for me to keep quiet then say something I'd regret later. This by the way is also an area of growth for me. I tend to speak my mind without considering consequences, but I've tried to be more thoughtful.
 
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catalina_francisco said:
Mmmmm, well SV has not made a hasty decision, just she has not been around these parts much since before your joining. I know it is put down to seasonal things etc., but I don't think that is the whole problem, and know from others who have long departed that it is not one or two who feel the board has been overtaken with levity of a few long ago. There is no problem with such fun, and as I am sure you know SV was the brains behind BDSM Word Assoc., so she like the rest of us is not up herself and saying out with all funsters, just advocating in the best interests of the board popularity and reputation remaining, and fairness for all who love this lifestyle, that there be some sort of balance between fun and serious discussion.
Catalina :rose:

By the same token... a lot of times a thread will be taken from one serious question to another... thereby ruining the original intent or not answering the question originally presented. Threads will be commandered by those who post to them. You can't stop them for doing so even if you wish. And to blame them for doing so is, to me, pointless. Just because you were here first does not mean you can dictate the tone of the forum. It is going to change and the balance will shift occasionally. Those who do not post because they see threads being taken over by sillyness are also to blame for the tone of this forum of which they are unhappy. By not contributing, you forfeit any right you have to complain.

I'm more willing to forgive silliness than the frustration I feel in regards to a recent thread I started. It started out as a question in regards to a certain activity I see and hoping I could find explanations or have others share their experiences in regard to it - instead, I felt that the thread became a justification for certain people's lifestyle choices or accusations that I said there was something wrong with those choices - when in fact, I simply trying to learn more about them.

Either which way, the forum is what those who contribute make it and I see no reason to complain about what it is or has become unless you are willing to make a change and to guide others. If you want thought provoking threads - start them - then chase off those that interupt it with silliness by kindly asking them to take the flirting elsewhere. No reason to just role your eyes or get angry over it - a simple note might do wonders. Most people are reasonable if you are.
 
SkylineBlue said:
Just because you were here first does not mean you can dictate the tone of the forum.

SB, gee I better stay awake more often!!! Never realised I was first here, or that I was dictating...what I and others were 'asking' for politely and reasonably was a little respect for balance. And as I pointed out, as you say it is those who post who dictate the thread direction, but as I also noted, when there are 2-3 pages of flirting, outright chitchat, and antics mistakenly called fun, it becomes impossible to follow the original topic and contribute in a meaningful way even if you want to....even I don't have the time to try and sift through it all to find the few relevant posts. I fail to see why the two can't co-exist and just thank the heavens I have found some places which make sure that happens and then everyone's needs are met, not just a few.

As to starting thought provoking threads if that is what I or others want...well I think if you want to check you will see I have done aplenty of that, as have others, but invariably of late along come the comedy theater to spread their joy and chatter so it is universal not just where it was made a place for.

If you are referring to your sugar daddy thread, I do not sdee anyone really abused you or stopped you learning. If you wanted answers that would help you got them and politely. All anyone said was sugar daddy and Dominant are two different things entirely....sugar daddy being more typical of a vanilla lifestyle in my experience and not a Dominant.If you start a thread, pose questions, unless you specify up r\front you want a particular answer (which defeats the purpose of asking to learn) it is going to bring answers that come from actual lived experiences and knowledge, and a variety of perspectives.

Catalina :rose:
 
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catalina_francisco said:
SB, gee I better stay awake more often!!! Never realised I was first here, or that I was dictating...what I and others were 'asking' for politely and reasonably was a little respect for balance. And as I pointed out, as you say it is those who post who dictate the thread direction, but as I also noted, when there are 2-3 pages of flirting, outright chitchat, and antics mistakenly called fun, it becomes impossible to follow the original topic and contribute in a meaningful way even if you want to....even I don't have the time to try and sift through it all to find the few relevant posts. I fail to see why the two can't co-exist and just thank the heavens I have found some places which make sure that happens and then everyone's needs are met, not just a few.

As to starting thought provoking threads if that is what I or others want...well I think if you want to check you will see I have done aplenty of that, as have others, but invariably of late along come the comedy theater to spread their joy and chatter so it is universal not just where it was made a place for.

If you are referring to your sugar daddy thread, I do not sdee anyone really abused you or stopped you learning. If you wanted answers that would help you got them and politely. All anyone said was sugar daddy and Dominant are two different things entirely....sugar daddy being more typical of a vanilla lifestyle in my experience and not a Dominant.If you start a thread, pose questions, unless you specify up r\front you want a particular answer (which defeats the purpose of asking to learn) it is going to bring answers that come from actual lived experiences and knowledge, and a variety of perspectives.

Catalina :rose:

Sorry, I shouldn't be posting right now. I'm suffering from severe PMS. I just can't seem to control my bitch gene chromosone right now. I should go turn myself in for punishment for being an uppity little shit.
 
To be fair yes the boards got sillied up a bit. But I remember those golden days they speak of as well. The Flame Wars were horrid and cruel. I stayed away then as emotions and words flew fast. It was a who's camp are you in atmosphere. I would like a middle groung as well. But those that leave don't help to make any serious thread last. Thus which side will win out but the silly side. I just hope they see they worsen the problem by staying away.
 
catalina_francisco said:
All she and others are asking for is respect and balance.
Those exist? Especially in cyberspace? :rolleyes:



There are plenty of fun BDSM and vanilla boards around, few which offer a balance of both and a place where information can be trusted and based on fact.
REALLY? :eek:

I find reading info sites and essays interesting to a point, but also gets a bit boring and very often presents just one person's view of how something is or should be. I have learned far more through open discussion which has presented a variety of viewpoints and experiences, as well as allowing myself and others to explore their own reality.

Catalina :rose:

Here here
as long as everyone realizes my reality is the right one ;)
 
SkylineBlue said:
Sorry, I shouldn't be posting right now. I'm suffering from severe PMS. I just can't seem to control my bitch gene chromosone right now. I should go turn myself in for punishment for being an uppity little shit.

Joins the queue...

I think most educational institutes have learned the value of discussion (tutorials) as well as lectures and reading material. Discussion forces us to think *actively* about what we are learning.

James, can I borrow your reality? :p
 
It is? Hmmm... I suppose that could depend on what was being discussed...
 
FungiUg said:
It is? Hmmm... I suppose that could depend on what was being discussed...

True to a degree. For me if a man stimulates my brain to a point beyond normal monotony of everyday, enjoys an exchange of ideas and concepts, he is well on the way to having my undivided attention.

Catalina
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