Just what is underage?

As for the 'nonconsent' thing

It's considered a sign of psychological health to be able to get satisfaction from fantasy rather than having to act on the 'darker' urges that every human experiences. Please do not try to stigmatize this normal process, especially out of ignorance.

As a nonconsent aficionado, I had to draw the distinction for myself some years ago. I couldn't help being aroused by certain situations in fantasy, and discovering that it's common and not a sign of disturbance was immensely reassuring. Let's not get back to the Dark Ages here, OK?

A great many perfectly ordinary people, male and female, fantasize about sexual encounters in which they are 'made' to do things by some compelling and attractive person or persons. This is not the same thing as perpetrating the real crime of rape or of enjoying being genuinely raped. The object of the encounter always retains complete control of the fantasy, and is absolved of responsibility for any acts that occur.

This is a significant sexual releaser for a lot of people, especially intellectual types who don't always indulge the physical animal within. For modern American women, the conflicting signals they are given about their sexuality and their uncertainty about how proactive they should be with men creates an uncomfortable situation fraught with social/religious sanction, peer pressure, gender relations, feminist theory, you name it.

Who the hell wants to fantasize about going to bed with all that baggage attached? When the dark, handsome stranger cuts through all the crap, seizes you in his arms and tells you he wants you so much he will even use force, well, there you go. ;-)

Everyone's lines are drawn in different areas. This site actually doesn't accept 'rapist fantasy' as opposed to 'victim's fantasy', but the acceptable stories can be pretty nasty. Some of the stuff on Lit goes way over MY line. But although I might not go on a date with a man who wrote a violent rape story, if writing it blew off something that might otherwise have gone into planning a real rape, more power to him.

As for the underage thing: Lit is just that way, that's all. They set the bar high here largely because of a gentleman named Ashcroft. American ideas about children and sex are even more screwed up than they are about women and sex, and the court system is far from immune to idiocy. Submit stories that even hint anyone under 18 ever thinks about sex somewhere else.

MM
 
Underage & Nonconsent

The problem with underage sex fantasies is that many of the acts are illegal and (for the most part) immoral. OK, that's an opinion, but I don't think it's right for an adult to seduce a kid. My rule is that anything between consenting adults that doesn't injure anybody is OK.

Of course nobody gets hurt if it's just a fantasy, right? Well ... in most cases, yes. But there are sickies out there who don't know fantasy from reality: they are the problem. They try to live their fantasies by having sex with kids.

But there are sickies out there who go over the speed limit, steal things, and beat up on people, even murder them. Of course you can write all you want about those crimes, in fact there's a whole genre of writing about murder. What's the difference?

Put sex and kids in the fantasy and our society overreacts. It is a crime in the US to possess "child pornography," although I'm not sure exactly how the term is defined. Is a drawing of a child having sex child pornography? Is a story about it child pornography? I doubt if the folks who run Literotica know exactly what qualifies as child pornography either, and I don't blame them for playing it safe. They are simply trying to avoid problems.

And in fact they do define the line in the guidelines: they say that stories must not involve people who are under 18 having sex.

I've read the story; I enjoyed it and got pretty wet reading it. Is it child pornography? I doubt it very much, but it does violate the Literotica guidelines.

Tinatart
 
Ok a couple of things...i have heard in some states in the US...it is illegal to have sex in any other position other than missionary...which is kinda funny but stupid. I read something about someone from either Canada or UK, dont remember who...talk about the First Amendment...Our freedom of speech is protected UNLESS, i dont remember its exact words but its something like this, it is talk about to talk about breaking a law or try to overthrow the government or something wierd stuff like that...i may have remembered it a little wrong b/c i heard it a couple of years ago. Also...another way that you can "override" the sex of a minor and an adult is if the couple that is having sex is within 5 years of eachother (dont know if thats in all states or not...i know its in NY b/c a guy a i know was brought up on charges and he was 19 and she was either 16 or 15 and the judge threw the case out cuz they were under 5 years apart). And my opinion on writing about minors and sex is as long as its not a true story and it does not have pictures to go along with it...There really is no harm being done...But there is really uptight people out there that have a hissy fit if they dont have their way so they censor everything they see (that PTC thing or watever) Kinda funny when these people complain about THEIR rights r being taken away from them....but they r the reason minors have no rights... i.e. The rating system on video games and music. I mean come on...you r gonna see this ANYWHERE you go. This country is just messed up and needs to look at how stupid they have made it...
 
general reply about laws

I'd just like to suggest that anyone who thinks just ONE law is stupid should do a search of "Stupid Laws" and just see what you see!!! I've been there and can assure you a lot of shock and a good laugh or two...
 
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