lying or laying?

cloudy said:
I know I'm right, and I care about other authors being given incorrect information. I recline on my couch every day: I put my head at one end, and my feet at the other.

As far as my rudeness to you goes...deal with it. You know exactly what I think of you, I've told you often enough. You keep giving people incorrect information, and I'll keep calling you an idiot.
Incorrect information?!
I said exactly the same thing you did.
You lay something down, but you are lying on the couch.
I only expanded on that saying you can lay yourself down, and I even gave an example:
"He is lying on the couch."
"I just found him laying there."

I could also say:
"He is lying on his side."

"Laying" is said when the main idea is where he is in relation to another.
"Lying" is said when saying the type of position (not standing) he is in or how he is doing it (on his side).
 
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*hand up*

'scuse me.

ahem.

as i already pointed out 'lying' would be correct for britenglish, 'laying' for N.American-speak.

and of course one may recline on a couch, a sofa, and even a flippin' chaise-longe.. it is the act of moving from a non-reclining position to a reclining one... in this instance going from standing up to lying/laying down on the sofa.

it's not really very hard. i don't see why knickers are getting twisted here. and i'm not even a submitted author! best shut me yap, eh? *flamin' writers*

:rolleyes:
 
sophieloves said:
*hand up*

'scuse me.

ahem.

as i already pointed out 'lying' would be correct for britenglish, 'laying' for N.American-speak.

and of course one may recline on a couch, a sofa, and even a flippin' chaise-longe.. it is the act of moving from a non-reclining position to a reclining one... in this instance going from standing up to lying/laying down on the sofa.

it's not really very hard. i don't see why knickers are getting twisted here. and i'm not even a submitted author! best shut me yap, eh? *flamin' writers*

:rolleyes:
I'm sorry, but you are incorrect.
You can't use the word ON when applying reclining, otherwise you are leaning, which is one position only.

If lying and laying is just a cultural difference, it would also include the surrounding text (see above examples).
 
Fantasies_only said:
I'm sorry, but you are incorrect.
You can't use the word ON when applying reclining, otherwise you are leaning, which is one position only.

If lying and laying is just a cultural difference, it would also include the surrounding text (see above examples).

Ah, so you're putting us on. Arguing the ridiculous. Ho, ho. took you seriously there for a brief moment.
 
Fantasies_only said:
I'm sorry, but you are incorrect.
You can't use the word ON when applying reclining, otherwise you are leaning, which is one position only.

If lying and laying is just a cultural difference, it would also include the surrounding text (see above examples).
recline:

to lay or lean (one's body, head or limbs, etc.) back, esp. in a horizontal or nearly horizontal position. v.i. To assume or be in a leaning or recumbent posture, to lie down or lean back upon cushions or other supports.
 
cloudy - -> Fantasies_only said:
... You know exactly what I think of you, I've told you often enough. You keep giving people incorrect information, and I'll keep calling you an idiot.
I suggest you as I did - graciously permit Fantasies_only to join sr71plt on your IGNORE list. It will do wonders for your blood pressure.
 
sophieloves said:
recline:

to lay or lean (one's body, head or limbs, etc.) back, esp. in a horizontal or nearly horizontal position. v.i. To assume or be in a leaning or recumbent posture, to lie down or lean back upon cushions or other supports.
It's used like that because the explanation is shorter than it should be.
You recline to a leaning position (moving), but when you are leaning, you are not reclining, furthermore when talking of a person rather than a thing, reclining can't be done in the standing position.
As I said that would be leaning, not reclining.

As for lying down, you have to realize the definition of lie isn't correct, so recline would not be correct.
To lie you must be in a complete (not partial) horizontle position or in a relitive position to an angled bed or flat slab, but reclining can be from a sitting position.
They are correct in one thing:
To lean back.
This is not the same as lean on, which I've been saying all along.
 
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sr71plt said:
Ah, so you're putting us on. Arguing the ridiculous. Ho, ho. took you seriously there for a brief moment.
Why would you say that?
It is not ridiculous and I am serious.
You might say "I'm reclining in my seat," but not "I have reclined in my seat."
 
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Fantasies_only said:
Why would you say that?
It is not ridiculous and I am serious.

Naw, you couldn't be. No one's that dense. Good joke--especially in being able to spin it out so long. Think I'll go recline on my sofa now.
 
sr71plt said:
Naw, you couldn't be. No one's that dense. Good joke--especially in being able to spin it out so long. Think I'll go recline on my sofa now.
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Fantasies_only said:
I'll give you a joke:
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While reclining on a sofa, I hope.
 
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Fantasies_only said:
It's used like that because the explanation is shorter than it should be.
You recline to a leaning position (moving), but when you are leaning, you are not reclining, furthermore when talking of a person rather than a thing, reclining can't be done in the standing position.
As I said that would be leaning, not reclining.

As for lying down, you have to realize the definition of lie isn't correct, so recline would not be correct.
To lie you must be in a complete (not partial) horizontle position or in a relitive position to an angled bed or flat slab, but reclining can be from a sitting position.
They are correct in one thing:
To lean back.
This is not the same as lean on, which I've been saying all along.
look, i'm sorry, but my grasp of the english language - while nowhere near perfect - is good enough to realise the correct use of the word 'reclining' in 'reclining on a sofa'. top grades in the subject, thanks, in written Lit/Lang and oral. i'm afraid your post made very little sense to me. perhaps we are coming at this from alternate ends of some cultural thing - but not only do i know i'm right, so do most others here. now i will leave it at that and wish you a Happy Hallowe'en. i have other threads to fry. thanks.
 
Fantasies_only said:
If you sit on it, and it has a hinged back.

no! that would be sitting on a reclining sofa!
it is one hundred percent possible to lay oneself down, to become 'lying down', to be 'reclining on' a fixed back sofa - as has already been demonstrated.

im out of here
 
arcum said:
Ok, I'm confused about which is the right word and I need some help. I have a character who is basically either laying or lying on a couch. The exact sentence is as follows:

"...she said before lying down on the couch..." Word is saying lying is right and dictionary.com is making me think it should be laying. I've struggled with this before so anyone that could help me solve this I would be very grateful towards.
It's lying.
 
sophieloves said:
no! that would be sitting on a reclining sofa!
it is one hundred percent possible to lay oneself down, to become 'lying down', to be 'reclining on' a fixed back sofa - as has already been demonstrated.

im out of here
"If you sit on it and it has a hinged back."
That indicates you will be moving or reclining into a leaning position.

You just said the same thing I did.
You can lay yourself down.
 
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Fantasies_only said:
"If you sit on it and it has a hinged back."
That incates you will be moving or reclining into a leaning position.

See? Told you he was that dense. :D
 
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