Needleplay

[Kajira Callista]

Hmm I have to admit that I think that looks kinda cool Kajira. And it's interesting to see that there isn't much blood at all, but it can of course have been dried off just before the picture was taken.

i dont think i could sit still long enough for someone to do that to me. And no, doesnt seem like much blood but kinda red and ouchie looking by the shoulder blades.

 

[ShyGuy68]

i dont think i could sit still long enough for someone to do that to me. And no, doesnt seem like much blood but kinda red and ouchie looking by the shoulder blades.

Well if you're tied up, you might not have many choices as to how long to stay still right?

Yes I noticed the redness as well, but I get that myself from time to time, if I just scratch myself a bit to much, but that might just be me having sensitive skin.

 

[Kajira Callista]

Well if you're tied up, you might not have many choices as to how long to stay still right?

Yes I noticed the redness as well, but I get that myself from time to time, if I just scratch myself a bit to much, but that might just be me having sensitive skin.

ok so tie me up and lets try this out and see how much blood there is.

 

[ShyGuy68]

ok so tie me up and lets try this out and see how much blood there is.

If only you weren't so far away!!

 

[Kajira Callista]

If only you weren't so far away!!

lol sowwy

 

[speedy tortoise]

i have started to use needleplay during masturbation. my nipples have been pretty sore lately, which i find very erotic. i love feeling the healing whilst i'm going about my daily life. Rubbing against the inside of my clothing keeps them erect all day long. i love it.

 

[s'lara]

I'll repost, it gets hidden in there:

(lacing, hanging bells on fishing line or going through a pair of nylons in a nylon encasement as I did are all lapses of sterility...you must clean very well afterward and inform your sub they are taking on a risk of infection, as you are any time you are pierced..I've known no one to get a serious infection so long as the needle sites were well cleaned, but it could happen)

I've seen and done some of the nylon line stringings and such with bells...basically what you're asking is valid... it's not as sterile as a simple pierce. Even just having the strings near the sites of the needles is adding some risk.

The clothing in question here is panty hose, so the needle really does move through the web of fibers, not dragging fibers into the piercing like some other fabrics might, however I would not call this a heavy endorsement for everyone/anyone else. I happen to know that bottom well, I clean heavily and know that she will also maintain her cleaning later on, if I tell her to re-wash the sites later in the day. 100 percent avoidance of infection? No. Not even hospitals can promise that.

Thanks Netz, i did miss that initial quote.

i'd have to agree that it would be tough to ensure 100 percent sterility when piercing. Still, as you mentioned, it might be a good idea for those just starting out not to pierce with surface impediments such as stockings, clothing, etc.

i'd like to have a definitive discussion regarding needleplay/play piercing wherein we discuss techniques, needle gauges, sterility, safety, etc., some of which You already provided answers to Netz.

Types of needles. You mention veterinarian needs were best because they were fine and sterile. What other gauges of needles would be safe/doable for those who want to engage in the practice?

i found an interesting article at http://www.leathernroses.com/scenes/sueneedles.htm which discuss in detail the sizes/gauges of needles and how one can set a scene for this kind of play. The author, Sue Abel, highlights the importance of training, sterility and safety. A good read for those truly curious.

i also found some common sense guidlines at http://www.thefairdowns.com/sub/play02.html which echoes what Netz said and also expands on some areas as well.

Finally, sexuality.org provides its own information regarding needleplay/play piercing which i think may be informative - http://www.sexuality.org/l/bdsm/needle.html -- See below:

PLAY PIERCING NOTES
PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS ADVANCED PLAY!!! THERE IS NO WAY YOU WILL BECOME COMPETENT AT PLAY PIERCING JUST BY READING THIS DOCUMENT. YOU SHOULD STUDY WITH SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO REDUCE THE CHANCE OF CAUSING AN INJURY.

INTRODUCTION

Play piercing is the SM technique of consensually inserting needles underneath the skin for erotic pleasure. Care should be taken to follow all appropriate safety precautions when engaging in play piercing in order to avoid injury. In the context of this document, the "bottom" is the person being pierced, and the "top" is the person doing the piercing.

EQUIPMENT

One should purchase sterile needles, and not reuse them after they have been used.

One should dispose of needles in a sharps container. Most medical supply shops and drug stores will sell sharps containers, and will tell you where they should be disposed of. Some states allow one to purchase needles without a prescription. In Seattle, this may be done at Choice Medical (1-206-329-1668).

The smaller the gauge, the larger the needle diameter. Common needle guages for play piercing are 26 through 18. Different gauges of needles have different color hubs, but these colors are not consistent across brands. On the needle package, the needles are commonly identified first by gauge, and second by needle length (in inches). Thus, a package labelled "22 1 1/2" would contain 22 gauge needles with a length of 1 1/2 inches.

The plastic disposable protection around the needle is called the sheath. The plastic portion permanently attached to the needle is called the hub. One shouldn't attempt to resheath the needles, as this can be hard to do without sticking oneself (actually, one should be careful about unsheathing as well).

One can practice piercing on a fresh orange, or on a chicken breast.

BASIC PRINCIPLES

The basic idea is that the needle should travel just underneath the surface of ordinary skin, to emerge through the skin a short distance from where it was inserted.

The needle tips have a bevel. With regard to the skin being pierced, the bevel may be up or down (it's personal preference); having the bevel sideways makes no sense, however.

Shallower = More Pain, Larger Diameter Needle = More Pain

SAFETY

Do not stick needles into internal organs, bones, eyes, etc. Again, the idea is that the needle should travel just underneath ordinary skin, passing only through skin and the subcutaneous layers just underneath the surface.

Play piercing involving the genitals is a special topic, with special precautions that must be followed to avoid causing permanent damage; don't try any sort of genital piercing without further training from someone who is familiar with and competent at genital piercing.

Don't pierce wrists, hands, or spines. Waist to shoulders is usually fine, though one should avoid the armpit and sternum.

The surface to be pierced should be disinfected first. There are three types of substances that may be used for this:

Iodine. This is opaque (which may be a problem) and shouldn't be used on someone who is allergic to shellfish.
Alcohol. This should be 70%-90% rubbing alcohol (isopropyl). One shouldn't use it on someone who is on antabuse.
BAC. These kill a broader spectrum of pathogens than alcohol, and allergic/irritation reactions are rare.
Allergic reactions (distinct from irritation) are characterized by pale skin, sweating, localized redness, and asthma-like symptoms.

At some play parties, it is required that one cork the tips of needles. This is not always easy to do without sticking oneself, though. The black corks can be autoclaved.

Some people like to spray the area with their disinfectant of choice and/or apply a gauze bandage after the piercing.

Some people prefer to wear latex or nitrile gloves as they do piercing, and to use the needle sheath to press down the skin in front of the needle as it is going through so that their hand or finger is not in the needle's way. Although most gloves will not protect you should you stick yourself with a needle, they can protect your hands against any blood (of uncertain infectious status) that may flow from skin punctures.

The primary danger in play piercing is infection. Be sure that the person you are playing with would recognize the signs of infection should they occur, and if so to go receive proper medical care.

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i hope this information is helpful. If anyone else would like to provide additional information, whether it may be about equipment, risks, etc., please feel free to chime in.

lara

 

[Netzach]

Wow!

Everyone read Sue's article.

She's a hell of a piercer, and I can say that first hand

 

[catalina_francisco]

LOL, we have finally begun our experimentation in this area...can't say I have gotten high from it as yet, definately want to explore further, and very little or no blood, and not really painful either.....just have to get past my needle phobias and we will progress much faster.

Catalina

 

[Marquis]

I must add this to my repertoire someday soon.

It's incredible how much things I never thought I could possibly be interested in become incredibly erotic to me as I learn more.

 

[Shankara20]

LOL, we have finally begun our experimentation in this area...can't say I have gotten high from it as yet, definately want to explore further, and very little or no blood, and not really painful either.....just have to get past my needle phobias and we will progress much faster.

Catalina

Congrats! Keep working at it. Once you get the needle thing down pat you can start lace play with it. I love needle play. There is somethink very soft and tender about it.

I have also done a ball dance where bells with tied to me using needles to pass the line through my skin. wonderful.

 

[landcruisergal]

I love needleplay as a top or a bottom.
I'm a nurse and am obsessed that everything is clean and my technique aseptic, including making my pup use preop wash before a session. ( not necessary but gives him time to anticipate what I am about to do).
I like to create patterns in his flesh. Spirals and swirls. Lines of needles following the contours of his body. I hardly ever pierce his genitals, unless its to complete a design.
To tie him down with needles and mere thread and know he will not attempt to break these weak bonds.

The endorphin rush I get from needles is incredible, the pain is minimal but the anticipation of the pain is so sweet.

The blood? I love to watch the trickles running down my flesh when the needles are taken out. My PYL thought my standing in front of the mirror watching myself bleed was very disturbing. Its not a dark or morbid thing, its purely visual appreciation; an affirmation of what I have just been through, and that I am truly alive. Its hard to explain.

 

[Evil_Geoff]

... So now I'm wondering if anybody here have partitipated in needleplay, and what your thoughts are about are (no matter if you've tried it or not)

Participated: Yes

Thoughts on it: OMG it's hot. What could possibly be better than literally getting under your partners skin, exchanging that power and energy, and the blood... *shivvers* OMG yum! Except maybe cutting... Or maybe branding..

Oh jeeez, is it getting warm in here or is it just me?

 

[Evil_Geoff]

That pic's freaking lovely!

Who wants something like that done?

 

[FurryFury]

I HATE needles!

Damn it!

Y'all are so making me what to try this with all that talk about highs.

*grr*

Keep it up!

Fury

 

[BiBunny]

Ok, so I've just discovered something else I'd like to try....

 

[catalina_francisco]

Participated: Yes

Thoughts on it: OMG it's hot. What could possibly be better than literally getting under your partners skin, exchanging that power and energy, and the blood... *shivvers* OMG yum! Except maybe cutting... Or maybe branding..

Oh jeeez, is it getting warm in here or is it just me?

LOL, we must be doing it wrong as there has only been a couple of small spots of blood so far, even when he went deeper than I expected....oh, unless you count when I panicked and moved and cut my finger on the needle then there was blood everywhere for quite awhile.....call me strange, but I am still so much more into the cutting and even more so, branding, but I'm working on it.

Catalina

 

[Shankara20]

Not so long ago I did some genital needle self-play.
These links are to pics I took that day hosted on photobucket.

Be warned you will see my naked cock and balls stuck with needles and a few drops of blood.

#1,#2 ,#3 ,#4 ,#5 ,#6 ,#7

 

[phil196662]

No comments?

I stuck some needles through some nipples today, for the first time without shaky hands.

Boys with little cat nipples make it much harder to do than it can be, that was the lesson of the day.

I love to stick my nipples with needles several times a week for relaxation, be brave - go ALL the way through!
I sure would love some woman near me to share the high, nice and natural!

 

[phil196662]

I HATE needles!

Damn it!

Y'all are so making me what to try this with all that talk about highs.

*grr*

Keep it up!

Fury

If you want to eas into needle play slowely and have sensitve skin, you could try the natural childbirth breathing that gets your Endorphines going a little, then that first prick is the most adictive!

 

[FurryFury]

If you want to eas into needle play slowely and have sensitve skin, you could try the natural childbirth breathing that gets your Endorphines going a little, then that first prick is the most adictive!

I'm considering it. Thanks for the idea Phil!

Fury

 

[phil196662]

I'm considering it. Thanks for the idea Phil!

Fury

I could write up something for you so the experience will be the best, resulting in many more! let me know!

 

[FurryFury]

Write up something?

*looks curious and confused*

Fury

 

[phil196662]

Write up something?

*looks curious and confused*

Fury

what area of your body do you want and will someone be inserting them?

 

[FurryFury]

what area of your body do you want and will someone be inserting them?

I'm not sure. It's unlikely I could convince my husband to do so, I think. I'm probably favor, should I proceed, somewhere I could reach. I actually intensely dislike needles. However hearing about the "high" has me curious.

Fury