OK, Ok, or Okay?

[sr71plt]

"You really shouldn't believe everything you read."

Oh, I do, I do. I believe you are all professional editors here who are just brimming over with sugar, goodwill, and fairness and don't have a nasty bone in your collective (as in glued together) bodies.

 

[cloudy]

Sorry, you misinterpreted (although I could see how you would). It isn't "you all," it's "you all." I live in the American South now and have acquired that expression. I certainly didn't mean it to be inclusive.

*ahem*

"y'all," not "you all."

p.s. I have lots and lots of nasty bones, but I freely admit to it. When will you?

 

[sr71plt]

"p.s. I have lots and lots of nasty bones, but I freely admit to it. When will you?"

OK (or okay or o.k.), I'll admit it. You have a lot of nasty bones.

 

[Recidiva]

Oh, I do, I do. I believe you are all professional editors here who are just brimming over with sugar, goodwill, and fairness and don't have a nasty bone in your collective (as in glued together) bodies.

I'm a professional editor that is brimming with experience and humor. The difference between you and me is that I can make peace with the people I work with, without having to enforce my opinions upon everyone.

The first thing I learned as a proofreader in bold and underline, was that a key part of the job was "tact."

But keep in mind that tact is a professional courtesy I extend to those who rely on me for advice. They are free to take it or not.

If I give advice and someone starts sniping at it, I am simultaneously surprised anybody would bother to snipe, while also willing to shoot back because it's good practice, in a freelance sense.

 

[cloudy]

I'm a professional editor that is brimming with experience and humor. The difference between you and me is that I can make peace with the people I work with, without having to enforce my opinions upon everyone.

The first thing I learned as a proofreader in bold and underline, was that a key part of the job was "tact."

But keep in mind that tact is a professional courtesy I extend to those who rely on me for advice. They are free to take it or not.

If I give advice and someone starts sniping at it, I am simultaneously surprised anybody would bother to snipe, while also willing to shoot back because it's good practice, in a freelance sense.

Amusing, too.

 

[cloudy]

"p.s. I have lots and lots of nasty bones, but I freely admit to it. When will you?"

OK (or okay or o.k.), I'll admit it. You have a lot of nasty bones.

oh, c'mon! I expected so much better from you!

That's on a par with "I know you are, but what am I?"

 

[trysail]

Old Kinderhook

OK is actually a word coined during the election campaign of a US President. I forget which one but its from the early part of the 20th century. Its original form was O.K. I believe as it was an acronym. Far as its use in writing goes, I tend to prefer "ok" myself. But if your trying to be proper it would be best to go with the afore mentioned spellings listed in the dictionary.

O.K., the gentleman to whom you are referring is "Old Kinderhook" a/k/a Martin Van Buren, eighth President of the U.S.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Kinderhook

 

[sr71plt]

"I'm a professional editor that"

As long as we're titting for tatting each other, that really should be "I'm a professional editor who"--unless you aren't a person (which is also possible, I guess).

And I do fine with people I'm working with too. What does that have to do with any of "y'all"?

I'm sure none of you are screaming banshees and gangbangers at work either. (and certainly wouldn't be like you are here in front of your mothers.)

 

[sr71plt]

"oh, c'mon! I expected so much better from you!

That's on a par with "I know you are, but what am I?"

Yeah, that was a scream, wasn't it? Thought I'd come down to (mostly) your level and look you in the eye on that one. Of course, I didn't use dirty language and bring a dozen of my girlfriend gangers, so it couldn't completely be on your level.

 

[Whisky7up]

So, you're not one of the ones who will now move on to tear at my stories themselves in hopes of upsetting me? If not, good on ya. It's always interesting when the pack starts to go really viscious.

Nope. From what I know of the others I don't think they would either.

Didn't someone actually come back with some praise earlier?

 

[cloudy]

"oh, c'mon! I expected so much better from you!

That's on a par with "I know you are, but what am I?"

Yeah, that was a scream, wasn't it? Thought I'd come down to (mostly) your level and look you in the eye on that one. Of course, I didn't use dirty language and bring a dozen of my girlfriend gangers, so it couldn't completely be on your level.

no, no...I'm sorely disappointed. Your insult level is far, far below mine.

Keep trying, though.

btw: learn how to use the quote function, please. I know computers are probably hard for you to fathom, but I know if you just try, you can do it.

 

[sr71plt]

"Didn't someone actually come back with some praise earlier?"

Yes, sort of--along with an offer to be one of the judges. Review this thread. If you were in my shoes and getting what I'm getting back, would you trust anyone here (except possibly Rogue whoever) for not just being in on the lynching plans?

It's fine--no, nice--if that poster really liked the story (actually there were two who said they read it and liked at least some elements of it--the "Grandma's Necklace" story)--but since, as I keep pointing out, nothing I've said here is directed to the quality of anyone's stories--and everything everyone else is posting is focused at tearing at me, I have no need to hop on the possibility of praise for the stories.

Also, there's the simple fact (and it doesn't matter two figs to me whether any of you believe it or not) that I'm a well-published novelist and now, in a second career, a well-paid book editor and have sold nearly 150 of these erotic stories (including "Grandma's Necklace"--to Gaydemon.com) to other Web sites. Truth be known I'm impervious to all of this ragging on me here about not only my writing but also my editorial credentials and skills. No need to do anything but laugh at the antics, flood of crap, and gangbanging on this thread.

So, for me this thread is truly a demonstration of how the clubbing and gangbanging works on this chat forum (and in the story voting, for that matter)--and I'm just egging posters here on to evidence that point. It's nothing else for me at all (except I genuinely initially responded on this thread to give a sound publishing industry answer--along with my sources--to a writer who asked a serious question. And I will continue to do that when I see a serious question being asked that I can find a "best practice" answer for in industry practice).

 

[sr71plt]

"btw: learn how to use the quote function, please. I know computers are probably hard for you to fathom, but I know if you just try, you can do it."

I probably would, of course, if I didn't know it bugged some of you so much. See, we can all be married both to a perceived need for standardization and to some "rules" and "best practices" that others don't choose as seeing as "rules" or "best practice."

 

[drksideofthemoon]

So, for me this thread is truly a demonstration of how the clubbing and gangbanging works on this chat forum (and in the story voting, for that matter)--and I'm just egging posters here on to evidence that point. It's nothing else for me at all (except I genuinely initially responded on this thread to give a sound publishing industry answer--along with my sources--to a writer who asked a serious question. And I will continue to do that when I see a serious question being asked that I can find a "best practice" answer for in industry practice).

You've whined about voting practices at Lusty Library as well, is this a common practice for you?

What have you shown us about the voting on this site. I must have missed it.

I think the only thing you have accomplished here is to show how much of an ass you are.

 

[sr71plt]

"If you don't like it here, go back to the Lusty Library, or did you wear your welcome thin there as well?"

Well, now, DarkSide, this points to the phenomenon of how taken up one can get in the chat room game "let's all of us get the bastard no matter what we have to do to get that done" that you'll say anything that serves that end. I have posted to a total of three threads since this time last year--all in the last two weeks. On one of them, "Prejudice in Voting" still going over on "Story Feedback," I've spent my entire time talking up the good things this Web site does and engaging in constructive discussion, including with you, on a limited number of things that might improve the voting system (usually in response to giving reasons why more sweeping changes aren't needed/to be expected of the Web site). In that thread I give several reasons I think this is a good Web site to post stories. I do think the forum is full of "eat-everything-in-sight" piranha who have mostly come here to derisively yak, not to share stories, yes, which this thread fully exhibits, but I've said affirmative things about the site's story section. You know that all full well, but you find it oh so convenient to ignore/forget that when there's a group feeding frenzy going on over here.

No, I wasn't told I wasn't welcome at Lusty Library. (Other than the need to spew bile, why would you think I was?) I write mostly Gay Male and Stickypen split off from LL as that site's gay section and I went with Stickypen for a while (and was that Web site's second featured writer of the month). I've put a few things on LL since then, but I stopped posting at several Web sites other than Literotica regularly when Web sites started offering me money for my stories. I have still tried to get most of the stories on Lit. because, as I've said in the forum before, this Web site offers the largest volume of readers and the highest average ratings/comments I've found in various Web sites I've tried. Thanks for asking--and so nicely.

 

[sr71plt]

"You've whined about voting practices at Lusty Library as well"

I guess the perception depends on your agenda, doesn't it, Dark? A whole lot of story contributors "complained" about the Lusty Library voting procedures. Along with many others at Lusty Library, we asked if a change in voting procedure was possible. One of my suggestions--getting rid of negative voting (three levels of positive votes. The trolls and those who didn't like the stories just didn't have any vote at all to register) was adopted along with someone else's suggestion to let only registered membrs vote, and the system seems to be doing well.

Again, I suggest anyone who wishes to check out my discussions here on voting can go read it for yourself on the "Voting Prejudice" thread on "Story Feedback." Of course those pursuing an agenda here won't bother to do that.

(Little sore I backed you into going against the group think here on what a fairly judged contest would be, right, Dark?)

 

[drksideofthemoon]

"If you don't like it here, go back to the Lusty Library, or did you wear your welcome thin there as well?"

Well, now, DarkSide, this points to the phenomenon of how taken up one can get in the chat room game "let's all of us get the bastard no matter what we have to do to get that done" that you'll say anything that serves that end. I have posted to a total of three threads since this time last year--all in the last two weeks. On one of them, "Prejudice in Voting" still going over on "Story Feedback," I've spent my entire time talking up the good things this Web site does and engaging in constructive discussion, including with you, on a limited number of things that might improve the voting system (usually in response to giving reasons why more sweeping changes aren't needed/to be expected of the Web site). In that thread I give several reasons I think this is a good Web site to post stories. I do think the forum is full of "eat-everything-in-sight" piranha who have mostly come here to derisively yak, not to share stories, yes, which this thread fully exhibits, but I've said affirmative things about the site's story section. You know that all full well, but you find it oh so convenient to ignore/forget that when there's a group feeding frenzy going on over here.

No, I wasn't told I wasn't welcome at Lusty Library. (Other than the need to spew bile, why would you think I was?) I write mostly Gay Male and Stickypen split off from LL as that site's gay section and I went with Stickypen for a while (and was that Web site's second featured writer of the month). I've put a few things on LL since then, but I stopped posting at several Web sites other than Literotica regularly when Web sites started offering me money for my stories. I have still tried to get most of the stories on Lit. because, as I've said in the forum before, this Web site offers the largest volume of readers and the highest average ratings/comments I've found in various Web sites I've tried. Thanks for asking--and so nicely.

Oh, you're welcome. Anytime.

 

[sr71plt]

I guess so. I posted my 21-part serial novel "Wolf Creek" there not long ago and it went through the submissions process without a problem.

What you are obviously trying to do here is known as "cooking the books."

 

[drksideofthemoon]

(Little sore I backed you into going against the group think here on what a fairly judged contest would be, right, Dark?)

Why would I be sore? I'm not a part of any group, I am just one person. Why wouldn't I want a fairly judged contest? Why do you think I suggested VarianP as one of the judges? Her critiques of stories are unbiased, and professional.

Contrary to your opinion, Lit is full of knowledgeable, and talented writers. It may benefit you to quit your grandstanding, and maybe listen to some of them. You may learn something.

 

[sr71plt]

"Contrary to your opinion, Lit is full of knowledgeable, and talented writers."

Contrary to your misleading attribution, I've never stated nor implied that Lit wasn't well-peopled with knowledgeable and talented writers. lol. The site's got a big membership--there's room for it to be well-stocked with a whole range of people--even with people full of what you're full of.

And there we go with the "talented writers" stuff again. Point to any statement I've made on the quality of anyone's stories.

Typical chat room gangbang technique. Seems like someone eventually would at least be a little clever with this attack strategy.

 

[drksideofthemoon]

"Contrary to your opinion, Lit is full of knowledgeable, and talented writers."

Contrary to your misleading attribution, I've never stated nor implied that Lit wasn't full of knowledgeable and talent writers. lol.

Typical chat room gangbang technique.

I didn't realize one person constituted a gang.

 

[sr71plt]

"I didn't realize one person constituted a gang."

I suppose it's possible when someone is two faced. Just saying, you know.

 

[drksideofthemoon]

"I didn't realize one person constituted a gang."

I suppose it's possible when someone is two faced. Just saying, you know.

Nope, I just checked the mirror, there's just one of me.

 

[snooper]

128 posts since I last looked on this thread yesterday. I just can't be bothered to read them all, especially since a random sample of them are almost all reportable for being "problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude)". I think the moderator ought to have stopped this mess days ago, somewhere about posting 30, instead of letting it run to 300.

When you are up to your arse in alligators, it is difficult to remember that AsylumSeeker just wanted to know about OK.

 

[DeeZire]

128 posts since I last looked on this thread yesterday. I just can't be bothered to read them all, especially since a random sample of them are almost all reportable for being "problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude)". I think the moderator ought to have stopped this mess days ago...

Have you seen the Scouries Reader thread? If this one's a traffic accident, that one's a 30 car pile-up.

But I think you're right, snooper. We (or at least I) need to be reminded of the rules, since we (or I) feel compelled to break them as often as possible. (And then feel so guilty about it afterwards. God I hate myself! Now I'm going to have to go down to Fascinations and buy a whip, all because of this stupid thread.)