OK, Ok, or Okay?

[LadyCibelle]

You can all join my posse.

I've been accused of witch hunts and posses so often that I just started one.

It's not my fault that people agree with me sometimes.

Oh please, Diva. I would be honoured to join your posse. Some of the best person I know are in it....show me the way oh great leader!

 

[Recidiva]

Oh please, Diva. I would be honoured to join your posse. Some of the best person I know are in it....show me the way oh great leader!

Awesome. Bring your chaps.

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=534825

 

[LadyCibelle]

Awesome. Bring your chaps.

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=534825

Uh, it's the GB. Should I wear a hard hat and sterile clothing?

 

[cloudy]

Fine ... let's get this underway.



If you're serious about the challenge, all stories can be sent to one person, stripped of any identification (I would recommend a copy/paste of each story into a new word document so that even the properties won't show who the author is) and that person forwarding them to whoever the judges were. The alterate is to post the stories on the forum with no identifiers for an open judging.

I'll volunteer to be the person to gather the stories - I'm impartial and curious on how this could turn out. I know Cloudy and SSS very peripherally and I have no grudge or love for any of you. You'll have to trust my integrity - but you'll have to trust the integrity of whoever collects the stories and whoever judges the stories.

Who do you suggest for three impartial judges? How will they be selected?
They have to have some interest in participating without having any obvious bias one way or another. I'd suggest kbate if she were around - integrity and honesty is her middle name and her knowledge of the english language is superb. I'd suggest Black Shanglan as well, based on his/her reputation - once again, horsie's integrity is well known. How about each of you select three potential judges and we can narrow it down from there - we will trust each of you to keep them impartial and to play fair.

Let's make some descisions, people.

I would trust you, kbate, and Shang to be impartial and honest.

Let's do it,

 

[Recidiva]

Uh, it's the GB. Should I wear a hard hat and sterile clothing?

I'm not sure what good you think sterile clothing is going to do, it's only going to be besmirched.

Hazmat suit maybe.

 

[LadyCibelle]

I'm not sure what good you think sterile clothing is going to do, it's only going to be besmirched.

Hazmat suit maybe.

Well sterile so I can take it off when I come back around here and not bring all 'their' nasties with me (present company excluded).

 

[Recidiva]

Well sterile so I can take it off when I come back around here and not bring all 'their' nasties with me (present company excluded).

However you feel safest, honey. Posses are usually a dangerous business, but we can keep you safe by pointing out who ISN'T in the posse and is totally safe - and recommended - to put on ignore)

 

[BlackShanglan]

Regarding William Butler Yeats--I rather think the point is that he wrote a whole hell of a lot more published words than kitten-pictured chatty gangbanging notes--and, I very much doubt he guessed at his answers or pretended to have expertise and knowledge he didn't have when someone asked him a question about writing and publishing.

No. The point is that he wrote vastly more unpublished words. Just the letters that have survived amount to nearly ten times the volume of the poems, plays, and stories.

And my goodness, the things that man would guess at would fill as many volumes as the letters. It's painful, really, watching him advise some poor fool on the spelling of an Irish name and then go on to change it four times in the next four weeks. And writing! My God, he praised a poem in which the scream of the heroine was likened to the sound of a cow being crushed to death by a giant snake. I wish to heaven I was making that up, but I read the damned thing.

But, what does what a well-published writer can get away with in writing have to do with what an unpublished writer competing with a couple of thousand other unpublished writers can expect to be accepted? Such simplistic, naive thinking here.

Wherever have you gotten this idea that authors who ended well-published began that way? The first 1300 pages of those letters were written while he was still scribbling hand copies of manuscripts and ruining his eyesight for a few coppers while writing John O'Leary nearly weekly over some loan of money or another. That painfully ridiculous review of a truly awful poem was one of his early attempts at publication - and thank goodness his peers were more forgiving that you appear to be.

Truly, one should never stoop to calling someone's thinking simplistic and naive. One should simply demonstrate it to be, and have done.

 

[drksideofthemoon]

Regarding William Butler Yeats--I rather think the point is that he wrote a whole hell of a lot more published words than kitten-pictured chatty gangbanging notes--and, I very much doubt he guessed at his answers or pretended to have expertise and knowledge he didn't have when someone asked him a question about writing and publishing.

But, what does what a well-published writer can get away with in writing have to do with what an unpublished writer competing with a couple of thousand other unpublished writers can expect to be accepted? Such simplistic, naive thinking here. All in hysterical response to someone not knuckling under to the gangbanging here. Such an angry little bee hive. *smile* How easy it is to keep them nasty and all abuzz.

Again, the publishing industry doesn't run on the votes and opinions of largely undeveloped writers--and even less on the rantings of "let's pretend" yakkers on an Internet chat board.

What happens to writers who ask serious questions on a thread like this is still their responsibility--whether they go with the word of "just pretending expertise" cyber chums or guidance on where to find useful answers is all their result to live with. The only vote that counts is the one they are trying to convey their work to.

Quite personally, I couldn't give a rat's ass what the publishing industry wants, or runs on. I have no desire to be published, I'm perfectly happy writing for free.

I would like to see an example of bad advice that has been given to someone in this particular forum.

The only ranting I have seen is from you. If you don't like it here, go back to the Lusty Library, or did you wear your welcome thin there as well?

 

[drksideofthemoon]

I would trust you, kbate, and Shang to be impartial and honest.

Let's do it,

VarianP is another I would highly reccomend.

 

[Recidiva]

VarianP is another I would highly reccomend.

Seconded.

 

[cloudy]

VarianP is another I would highly reccomend.

Varian would also be fine with me.

C'mon, sr...put up or shut up.

 

[sr71plt]

"The point is that he wrote vastly more unpublished words."

Oh, yes, right. Don't we all? Pretty sure he wasn't spending most of his words "just pretending" in anonymous notes, however.

"Wherever have you gotten this idea that authors who ended well-published began that way?"

Whoever said that? Not me?

Whatever are you doing this nit-picking on unrelevant topics for just to feel superior?

 

[Whisky7up]

"... any of my 202 stories posted to Lit. in the last year...

I've gotten more stories posted to Lit. in the last year than the whole collection of giggly "ladies" chat board yakkers on this string have ever posted to Lit.--combined.

I offered ten times the volume of stories[/B] to choose from than you've produced here in the past five years.

I've pretty much said nothing about my writing prowess on these boards.

Well, yes, I think over 200 stories in a year is pretty prolific. Don't you?

My comparison was on the number of stories posted here, the time frame in which those stories were posted, and the comparable amount of yak yaking on the chat board.

You're right. I am confused. Are you boasting about the number of stories you have here in a short time frame or are you displaying modesty by not mentioning it at all.....except for, what, five times now?

 

[sr71plt]

"I would trust you, kbate, and Shang to be impartial and honest."

I'm sure you all have been voting as a girlfriends block so long you have no idea what the word "independent" means, but, no, certainly no one playing the chat room game here is independent. An independent judge would be someone unrelated to this forum (or to either cloudy or me).

I said that Laurel would be fine to appoint these judges--which is a huge concession, because I have to assume she's chummy with you all as well, and isn't really impartial. But I conceded that because it doesn't really matter who's work independent judges picked anyway, as I've nowhere made comparative claims based on quality. That was all cloudy's irrelevance and fixation.

I do insist on something as close to fair and impartial as possible--just as a matter of instruction to the girlfriend gang here, which appears to have lost all contact with any notion of the fair and impartial.

 

[Whisky7up]

Girlfriend Gang.

hmmm....

That would imply all females would it not?

At least one of us is male.

 

[cloudy]

"I would trust you, kbate, and Shang to be impartial and honest."

I'm sure you all have been voting as a girlfriends block so long you have no idea what the word "independent" means, but, no, certainly no one playing the chat room game here is independent. An independent judge would be someone unrelated to this forum (or to either cloudy or me).

I said that Laurel would be fine to appoint these judges--which is a huge concession, because I have to assume she's chummy with you all as well, and isn't really impartial. But I conceded that because it doesn't really matter who's work independent judges picked anyway, as I've nowhere made comparative claims based on quality. That was all cloudy's irrelevance and fixation.

I do insist on something as close to fair and impartial as possible--just as a matter of instruction to the girlfriend gang here, which appears to have lost all contact with any notion of the fair and impartial.

Weasel out of it any way you like, but those mentioned are not my "girlfriends."

I'm not surprised at all, Limpy. You're scared shitless, and it shows.

 

[sr71plt]

Deleted this part because of mudslinging on the part of this individual.

 

[sr71plt]

Limpy? Thanks. I've graduated from "fuckwad." A new level of respect.

 

[RogueLurker]

"I would trust you, kbate, and Shang to be impartial and honest."

I'm sure you all have been voting as a girlfriends block so long you have no idea what the word "independent" means, but, no, certainly no one playing the chat room game here is independent. An independent judge would be someone unrelated to this forum (or to either cloudy or me).

I said that Laurel would be fine to appoint these judges--which is a huge concession, because I have to assume she's chummy with you all as well, and isn't really impartial. But I conceded that because it doesn't really matter who's work independent judges picked anyway, as I've nowhere made comparative claims based on quality. That was all cloudy's irrelevance and fixation.

I do insist on something as close to fair and impartial as possible--just as a matter of instruction to the girlfriend gang here, which appears to have lost all contact with any notion of the fair and impartial.

Name some people that would be willing to judge please.

I doubt very much that Laurel is very likely to get involved, but you can ask her. If she agrees, great. I would recommend that you name some others in the meantime.

 

[cloudy]

Name some people that would be willing to judge please.

I doubt very much that Laurel is very likely to get involved, but you can ask her. If she agrees, great. I would recommend that you name some others in the meantime.

psssst...he thinks Laurel is imaginary.

sr: ask her. I doubt it very highly that she'll get involved, but if she does, I'm all for it - trust her implicitly.

What's your next excuse?

 

[Recidiva]

I'm sure you all have been voting as a girlfriends block so long you have no idea what the word "independent" means, but, no, certainly no one playing the chat room game here is independent. An independent judge would be someone unrelated to this forum (or to either cloudy or me).

"Girlfriends block"?

WTF?

I gave advice based on a long time in the business and you started frothing like someone with rabies.

 

[Whisky7up]

And as long as I continue pointing out your gangbanging techniques, nit-picking, and irrelevance, you'll be coming back for more. Because you are a chat room junkie and can't help yourself (yourselves, actually). Just like moths to the flame. Pavlovian.

I've been here five years and you've been here a year. You've already posted HALF the number of times I have. Not just prolific with the stories then. You're even posting at a rate more prolific than a chat room junkie!!!



I love the way you tell me I'll keep coming back for more and that's a bad thing, but you'll keep coming back to point out my 'techniques' and that's a good thing.

I guess you have those double standards to keep up.

 

[sr71plt]

Or maybe he thrives on bursting the bubbles of chat room gangbangers. Yeah, maybe that's it. *smile*

What do you all need me for in conducting your "contest"? Pick and choose my stories as you wish and do whatever "contest" you want to do. You hadn't planned on being fair about it anyway, obviously. You're only interested in lynchings. I liked all of my stories--or I wouldn't have submitted them. And since I made no claims of comparison quality, it doesn't matter to me how such a "contest" would turn out. You're only in it for the smear value anyway. The outcome will hardly be a surprise.

With each and every one of your postings here, you exhibit your mob techniques. This is what you chat room gangbangers do.

 

[cloudy]

Or maybe he thrives on bursting the bubbles of chat room gangbangers. Yeah, maybe that's it. *smile*

What do you all need me for in conducting your "contest"? Pick and choose my stories as you wish and do whatever "contest" you want to do. You hadn't planned on being fair about it anyway, obviously. You're only interested in lynchings. I liked all of my stories--or I wouldn't have submitted them. And since I made no claims of comparison quality, it doesn't matter to me how such a "contest" would turn out. You're only in it for the smear value anyway. The outcome will hardly be a surprise.

With each and every one of your postings here, you exhibit your mob techniques. This is what you chat room gangbangers do.

Weasel.

Scared much?