SimplySouthern
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I'm keeping my schedule clear just for you 
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Weird Harold
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SimplySouthern said:uuummmmmm...make him recite the periodic tables to me all night long...yeah baby.
Darn! I'm an electronics technician, not a physicist.
Will you settle for an explanation of how a radar set works? It involves a lot of pulsating and bouncing.
SimplySouthern
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WH ~ as long as you use the big words...I promise the bouncing will follow shortly thereafer
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Re: Same thing we do every night, Pinky
... [/B]"Try to Take Over the World"[/B] ... William lmao ..
ahhh a sam cooke fan as well dear .. tres cool ..
.. now i don't claim to be an "A" student .. but i'm trying to be .. cause maybe by being an "A" student baby, i can win your love for me ..
now miss scarlett .. you didn't say one damn word bout all my fancy technical jargon .. didn't i turn you on just a wee bit luv ... lol .. ?????
RonG said:
... [/B]"Try to Take Over the World"[/B] ... William lmao ..
ahhh a sam cooke fan as well dear .. tres cool ..
.. now i don't claim to be an "A" student .. but i'm trying to be .. cause maybe by being an "A" student baby, i can win your love for me ..
now miss scarlett .. you didn't say one damn word bout all my fancy technical jargon .. didn't i turn you on just a wee bit luv ... lol .. ?????
did someone say "periodic table?" 
alphabetically, or by number?
let's see.... hydrogen, helium, lithium, berillyum, boron, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, fluorine, neon, sodium, magnesium, aluminium, silicon, phosphorous, sulphur, chlorine, argon, potassium, calcium, uh, something... crap.
anyway. don't talk chemistry around me, i get excited *laughs*
alphabetically, or by number?
let's see.... hydrogen, helium, lithium, berillyum, boron, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, fluorine, neon, sodium, magnesium, aluminium, silicon, phosphorous, sulphur, chlorine, argon, potassium, calcium, uh, something... crap.
anyway. don't talk chemistry around me, i get excited *laughs*
SimplySouthern
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oh dear dear Sammy....everything about you turns me on.
Justin ~ I think I need a private lesson in chemistry...that was my worst subject in school!
Justin ~ I think I need a private lesson in chemistry...that was my worst subject in school!
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What? Someone needed a smart guy?
To elaborate on what RonG said--
After a surface has aquired an excess of electrons, such as your skin, you will have a net negative charge in parts of your body (mainly the saline solution in your skin). When this excess charge gets near some object that is easily polarizable, quite a strong field can be created... This is where the magic happens... There has to be at least one free electron in the air. Now, normally air does not have free electrons running around in it-- they tend to recombine with other air molecules quickly when they are knocked off. The big question is to why/how they are knocked off? The answer is by cosmic rays (ultra-fast muons, etc.). Now, most cosmic rays are deflected/absorbed by the earth's atmosphere, but some make it through, and into your house. When one of these cosmic rays hits an air molecule in your house, it can knock off an electron... Now that we've established where the electron comes from, lets describe what happens. Remember, your hand has a negative charge on it and has polarized some material, which will look like (although it really isn't) a positive charge. Our free electron is in between your finger and the polarized object. The free electron is repelled by your finger and attracted to the polarized object. This electron will accelerate very quickly and can quite easily knock an electron off of another air molecule. These two electrons repeat this process and cause an avalanche of free electrons to be created. Now, remember when I said that electrons tend to recombine with air molecules? This avalanche subsides and everything is back to normal. The "spark" you feel is from the large number of electrons recombining with their molecules. For this to happen, you need to be able to have an electric field of about 3*10^6 newtons per coulomb, and this is usually acheived under dry conditions (so you don't have any big, fat water molecules in the way).
Have no idea why I just did that...
Rand al'Thor
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To elaborate on what RonG said--
After a surface has aquired an excess of electrons, such as your skin, you will have a net negative charge in parts of your body (mainly the saline solution in your skin). When this excess charge gets near some object that is easily polarizable, quite a strong field can be created... This is where the magic happens... There has to be at least one free electron in the air. Now, normally air does not have free electrons running around in it-- they tend to recombine with other air molecules quickly when they are knocked off. The big question is to why/how they are knocked off? The answer is by cosmic rays (ultra-fast muons, etc.). Now, most cosmic rays are deflected/absorbed by the earth's atmosphere, but some make it through, and into your house. When one of these cosmic rays hits an air molecule in your house, it can knock off an electron... Now that we've established where the electron comes from, lets describe what happens. Remember, your hand has a negative charge on it and has polarized some material, which will look like (although it really isn't) a positive charge. Our free electron is in between your finger and the polarized object. The free electron is repelled by your finger and attracted to the polarized object. This electron will accelerate very quickly and can quite easily knock an electron off of another air molecule. These two electrons repeat this process and cause an avalanche of free electrons to be created. Now, remember when I said that electrons tend to recombine with air molecules? This avalanche subsides and everything is back to normal. The "spark" you feel is from the large number of electrons recombining with their molecules. For this to happen, you need to be able to have an electric field of about 3*10^6 newtons per coulomb, and this is usually acheived under dry conditions (so you don't have any big, fat water molecules in the way).
Have no idea why I just did that...
Rand al'Thor
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Rand - i didn't realize that cosmic rays collided with matter that frequently. is the result the same when they collide with other elements?
Southern - c'mon up to the not-so-frozen north anytime, and i'll whip you into shape. nobody should be allowed to get away with not knowing their Chem.
Southern - c'mon up to the not-so-frozen north anytime, and i'll whip you into shape.
nobody should be allowed to get away with not knowing their Chem.
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Yep Justin, thats what usually happens when you feel a static shock... A free electron must be present. Not very many of the cosmic rays actually penetrate the atmosphere and hit an air molecule in your house, but "not very many" is considering the total number of them, which is damn near unthinkable... The reason it has to be dry is that the air molecules are not very "strong" so to speak. I guess it COULD do that to other elements, but not heavier elements... I'm not sure about that, since it delves into chemistry, and thats not my strong suit... Neither is physics, really (just give me a MATH problem, though! ).
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i'm a chem junkie, but i haven't done much in physics when it comes to quantum theory and stuff like that. i mean, i know the basics, but not a lot by any stretch. it makes sense that heavier atoms with a more saturated electron cloud wouldn't be so prone to losing them (especially because, i think, the energy require to change an electron's quantum state in such an atom is pretty high). coolness
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~justin
Like I said, I don't know much at all about either physics or chemistry... I just knew the static electricity thing because I remember thinking the cosmic ray stuff was funny.
I prefer the mathematics that physics and chemistry is based off of, after all, physics is the slave to mathematics.
Rand al'Thor
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Like I said, I don't know much at all about either physics or chemistry... I just knew the static electricity thing because I remember thinking the cosmic ray stuff was funny.
I prefer the mathematics that physics and chemistry is based off of, after all, physics is the slave to mathematics.
Rand al'Thor
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Muons, Gluons, and Quarks, oh my!
The cosmic ray thing is really just a way to add energy and not really necessary to create a static charge. Your basic system tends to attempt to reach the maximum amount of disorder (a process known as entropy, which can be observed in my kids' bedrooms). It takes some energy to be expended to create positive and negative charges since this implies some amount of order. The water in air is really insignificant as far as conduction goes since the density of air is so low but clearly electricity can flow with high humidity (lightning doesn't seem to stop because it is raining).
Suppose you built a house encased in polymeric materials capable of reducing and reflecting cosmic rays (neglecting relative wavelengths but this is a crude example). I am quite sure you could take a balloon and rub it on your head for a while and then stick it to whatever you wish - sister-in-law's backsides included. The energy to impose order on the system is the kinetic energy from your arm movement which then is converted into potential energy in the form of a static charge. When the electrons flow back (static discharge), maximum disorder will result and you will have the lowest amount of entropy. The cosmic ray form of creating static is analogous to your oscillating arm, just a single form of providing energy to be converted into order.
A mathematical way to envision the static process would be to map it as a contour integral in the complex plane using kinetic energy and potential energy as your dimensions. If your process is complete (a simple closed contour), the net energy change is zero. Neglecting the original source of energy, the overall system will not rest until the original level of entropy is regained.
Math Geeks Rule!
The cosmic ray thing is really just a way to add energy and not really necessary to create a static charge. Your basic system tends to attempt to reach the maximum amount of disorder (a process known as entropy, which can be observed in my kids' bedrooms). It takes some energy to be expended to create positive and negative charges since this implies some amount of order. The water in air is really insignificant as far as conduction goes since the density of air is so low but clearly electricity can flow with high humidity (lightning doesn't seem to stop because it is raining).
Suppose you built a house encased in polymeric materials capable of reducing and reflecting cosmic rays (neglecting relative wavelengths but this is a crude example). I am quite sure you could take a balloon and rub it on your head for a while and then stick it to whatever you wish - sister-in-law's backsides included. The energy to impose order on the system is the kinetic energy from your arm movement which then is converted into potential energy in the form of a static charge. When the electrons flow back (static discharge), maximum disorder will result and you will have the lowest amount of entropy. The cosmic ray form of creating static is analogous to your oscillating arm, just a single form of providing energy to be converted into order.
A mathematical way to envision the static process would be to map it as a contour integral in the complex plane using kinetic energy and potential energy as your dimensions. If your process is complete (a simple closed contour), the net energy change is zero. Neglecting the original source of energy, the overall system will not rest until the original level of entropy is regained.
Math Geeks Rule!
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Justin ~ Did you say you were a chem junkie? Funny thing...me too! No, wait...I'm a cum junkie. That's different I think
Izzy ~ My little tart...you know everything about you impresses me...technical or not. I would expect no less from a tart-scarlett-in-training.
Izzy ~ My little tart...you know everything about you impresses me...technical or not. I would expect no less from a tart-scarlett-in-training.
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<g> Chef, stop running around the house in your socks <g> That's the best way that static electricity gets started. On top of that, buy yourself a humidifier. It also helps to keep the static down.
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Who would have thought that alittle static could be the cause of so many problems. I have certainly learned alot today. Hell with PBS im staying tuned here more often
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If you get RonG on the physics, ~justin on the chemistry, and me on the mathematics, we could CONQUER THE WORLD!
...Or at least answer a bunch of seemingly useless questions.
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...Or at least answer a bunch of seemingly useless questions.
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SimplySouthern
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oooh..oooh...can I be on the sex? Can't ya see me as the Sex Ed teacher? Oh wouldn't that be a show. LOL
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Just for my two cents vixen... they are MOCCASINS NOT socks.... and who said that was a bad thing... hmm
Southern for me, I mean sex, I mean ... oh shit oh dear!
Da chef
Southern for me, I mean sex, I mean ... oh shit oh dear!
Da chef
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Just what do you mean there Cheffie? Perhaps if you explain it to me...and type slow...maybe just maybe...
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Ooooooh baby ooooh goood oooooh simply oooooh Southern!
I always liked women down under!
Slow enough for you?
I always liked women down under!
Slow enough for you?
