Really struggling with submitted format

[CarlusMagnus]

Wait, wait: Are you saying I can insert code into my .doc file, and get away with it?
Wha-huh??
Really?

You can certainly insert code in .txt files, within limits. Or, at least you can do so if you submit them without any word-wrapping, so that each paragraph appears as a very long line comprising many sentences and separated from adjacent paragraphs by blank lines. (I don't know about .doc files—I only use them when someone who doesn't know any better sends me one that I have to read.)

But in a .txt file, you can insert HTML tags for italics and bold-face for sure, as well as the HTML codes for em-dashes, en-dashes, ellipses, and accented Roman letters. (I once needed, for example, to have someone sauté a steak, and the HTML code for the accented "e" worked perfectly—just as it does here.)

I've used the line-break trick, too—though not as you want to use it. At the end of a story I intend to continue, I like to insert the tag "(To be continued.)" And I want it to be separated from the body of the story by more than Lit's usual paragraph break. I've found that I can achieve what I want by doing this:

--------------
This is the last sentence of the story.
<BR/>
(To be continued.)
--------------

This appears with two blank lines between the last sentence and the tag:

--------------
This is the last sentence of the story.


(To be continued.)

--------------



It appears that the Lit bots simply append a line-break tag to every line they encounter in a .txt file formatted as I've described above.

You can safely ignore the Pilot's suggestions that I don't know what I'm talking about. I've made it clear what I know and what I don't know. He's just jealous to find that I know some things he doesn't.

 

[snoopercharmbrights]

... You can safely ignore the Pilot's suggestions that I don't know what I'm talking about. ...

Good Lord! Is (s)he arguing about technical matters now?

Arguing about style is acceptable, since it is a matter of opinion, but arguing about technical facts is just plain stupid.

 

[Darkniciad]

SR is correct that any form of formatting stands the chance of an initial rejection or the system producing something unexpected. My one rejection prior to the most recent was for HTML. There's a form letter rejection for that, so it's hardly anything new.

In my case, it was erroneous. I had used HTML special character codes for my scene breaks, and it got spit back to me. I whipped off a quick PM to Laurel, confirming that it was an "oops" rejection, and resubmitted without problem.

The point is that it got tossed back to me in the first place.

Likewise, one allowed tag ( <blockquote> ) used to produce an error that changed the font size/face for the remainder of the document when used. This bug has been fixed, but it was something that happened out of the blue one day, after working just fine for a long period of time.

I'm not sure how the system would process an uploaded .doc file with formatting tags inserted, either. If you're going to do it that way, you should cut-n-paste or save the document as plain .txt

Smart quotes can cause errors on certain pages ( such as the New list ) if you cut-n-paste a title/tagline with them instead of typing in the title box. Ditto special characters for languages other than English, including accented words from other languages used in English.

You can control the formatting of your stories to a certain degree. It would be wise to put a note in the "notes" section any time you do this, however. Anything beyond the standard bold and italics risks an erroneous rejection if you don't. Even if you do point it out, there's no guarantee that Laurel will accept the request, or that it will turn out as expected once it posts.

 

[sr71plt]

Good Lord! Is (s)he arguing about technical matters now?

Arguing about style is acceptable, since it is a matter of opinion, but arguing about technical facts is just plain stupid.

Why wouldn't I know the technical "facts" on submitting stories to Literotica? I've gotten 520 of them passed through--506 more than Carlus--and 513 more than you.

I would think it would be the two of you who would listen rather than give instruction on the subject. (But then, again, no I wouldn't think that. )

 

[snoopercharmbrights]

...You can control the formatting of your stories to a certain degree. ... Anything beyond the standard bold and italics ... there's no guarantee ... that it will turn out as expected once it posts.

However there is some indication to be found in Testing Story Formatting by Weird Harold.

 

[CarlusMagnus]

Why wouldn't I know the technical "facts" on submitting stories to Literotica?

Because you don't know squat about writing or maintaining HTML code. It's a simple as that.

 

[CarlusMagnus]

However there is some indication to be found in Testing Story Formatting by Weird Harold.

Would've saved me an hour or two reinventing the wheel if I'd know about WH's little note. I do something very similar to what he describes.

 

[Darkniciad]

Still doesn't account for the strange things Lit's text processor and the code on some of the pages are going to do to things.

Nor does it have anything to do with what Laurel will take the time to override the automated text processor to allow ( such as single spacing, the genesis of the thread )

A useful tool, but unrelated to the question at hand.

 

[CarlusMagnus]

Still doesn't account for the strange things Lit's text processor and the code on some of the pages are going to do to things.

Nor does it have anything to do with what Laurel will take the time to override the automated text processor to allow ( such as single spacing, the genesis of the thread )

A useful tool, but unrelated to the question at hand.

Seems like she'd save time in the long run by posting somewhere a list of specifications saying what's permitted and what isn't. But that isn't my call.

 

[sr71plt]

Sound a bit jealous there, Carlus.

Perhaps you can tell me how you know anything about what I know about html. Sounds to me like you're full of hot air and hurt.

I use what html that is necessary here Carlus. Never had a story rejected for doing that wrong. Not much is needed either. The stories should stand on the writing, not on the fancy formatting. And as for the writing, point to your published work in the marketplace. I'm happy to seen how we compare in sales.

 

[CarlusMagnus]

Duplicate post.

 

[CarlusMagnus]

Sound a bit jealous there, Carlus.

Perhaps you can tell me how you know anything about what I know about html. Sounds to me like you're full of hot air and hurt.

Sounds to me like you're making up things you want to believe. There isn't enough money in the world to make me want to be like you.

I use what html that is necessary here Carlus. Never had a story rejected for doing that wrong. Not much is needed either. The stories should stand on the writing, not on the fancy formatting. And as for the writing, point to your published work in the marketplace. I'm happy to seen how we compare in sales.

I do quite well in my chosen profession, thank you. Come back and try to taunt me later—after you've earned some advanced degrees in a technical field. Taunts like that might even mean something then.

 

[sr71plt]

May I point out that you're the one who dropped in on top of me on this thread, Carlus--along with Snooper? You two are the ones being petty and silly. I guess you have nothing worthwhile to do.

Again, you can't possibly know what I know about using html. And it's just petty and silly for you to asert you do. I've successfully worked with the Lit. submissions system once or twice a week for a bunch of years. I gave straightforward, knowledgable advice on this thread and you were (are) just being childish.

 

[PacoFear]

Come back and try to taunt me later—after you've earned some advanced degrees in a technical field. Taunts like that might even mean something then.

Oooh, no he di-ent. It's going to be a nerd-off, yo'.

Carlus, do I detect eau de EE on you?

 

[CarlusMagnus]

Carlus, do I detect eau de EE on you?

Nope. No eau d'EE here. No E of either kind, in fact.

Just pointing out how far from the mark the Pilot's slings and arrows are landing. I'm not sure where he came up with the strategy of taunting people for not being what he is, but he uses it regularly.

Why would anyone want to be what he is? That's the real mystery.

 

[sr71plt]

Sounds like childish jealousy to me.

Speaking of which, it doesn't respond to the "you butted in to back bite" note or substantiate that you know what I know about html. I'd say both of those make you pretty childish here.

I don't know what "eau de EE" refers to.

 

[CarlusMagnus]

Sounds like childish jealousy to me.

I'm sure it does. Dream on.

Speaking of which, it doesn't respond to the "you butted in to back bite" note or substantiate that you know what I know about html. I'd say both of those make you pretty childish here.

They weren't, and aren't, worth any more of a response than this.

I don't know what "eau de EE" refers to.

Why am I not surprised?

 

[snoopercharmbrights]

Still doesn't account for the strange things Lit's text processor and the code on some of the pages are going to do to things.

Nor does it have anything to do with what Laurel will take the time to override the automated text processor to allow ( such as single spacing, the genesis of the thread

Seems like she'd save time in the long run by posting somewhere a list of specifications saying what's permitted and what isn't. But that isn't my call.

There was one, some years ago, but it was in a thread on one of the fora and I can't find it at the moment.

 

[sr71plt]

"They weren't, and aren't, worth any more of a response than this."

But only because you can't give a response that doesn't show you as childish. You don't know what I know about html any more than you know about the quality of my writing (which you did comment on and is why I challenged you to a comparison), and I think it's quite reasonable when you challenge my knowledge on technicals in posting stories to Lit. to point out that I have successfully posted 506 more stories here than you have.

You were (are) just engaging in childish back biting. You obviously prefer the game of hit and run with falacious statements. But my response is to point out your childishness in doing so.

 

[CarlusMagnus]

You were (are) just engaging in childish back biting. You obviously prefer the game of hit and run with falacious statements. But my response is to point out your childishness in doing so.

Whatev'

 

[sr71plt]

So that maybe you'd get the hint, do us all a favor, and stop engaging in this childish behavior. If I've directly dropped on your head out of the blue and engaged in personal back biting, response, of course, would be justified. If I don't, why don't you just not do it either. K?

 

[CarlusMagnus]

So that maybe you'd get the hint, do us all a favor, and stop engaging in this childish behavior. If I've directly dropped on your head out of the blue and engaged in personal back biting, response, of course, would be justified. If I don't, why don't you just not do it either. K?

Review this thread, and see who mentioned whom by name first, and which of us first said anything about one of the other's posts.

You have a habit of making stupid statements. When you make them, I will call you on them.

If you think that's because I'm jealous of you, that's your problem—not mine.

The solution is simple: Don't say dumb things.

 

[sr71plt]

While you're looking, take a gander at the comparison of who agreed with me--and who agreed with you.

I certainly would hope that anyone in search of a useful answer to the questions would do so.

Did I assert anything about you (in contrast to what you asserted about me) other than the obvious--that you haven't submitted enough stories or been here long enough to know squat about the technicals of how submitting works?

 

[CarlusMagnus]

While you're looking, take a gander at the comparison of who agreed with me--and who agreed with you.

Nobody disagreed with me.

And what I said is absolutely correct. Linebreaks can be forced using <BR /> (or even just <BR>, though current standards deprecate this usage).

See

http://www.literotica.com/s/mouse-bk-01-ch-02?page=2

It's about a third of the way down the page. Not only does it work, but there are good reasons to do it.

Now tell me again about the HTML you understand.

 

[sr71plt]

Don't see a single rational excuse for your childish backbiting behavior yet.