Rejected for relationship between minors

[bflagsst]

Oh god, here we go. I smell an argument brewing.

It's ridiculous that someone would come here and say they're going to start reporting rule violators because they can't get their crappy story accepted. I have stories under other names from earlier this decade that wouldn't get accepted now, precisely because rules change. Internet people are something else...

 

[CopperSkink]

Off with the gloves, then. Who's referee?

Dear bfla,

Having a membership date back to 2001 doesn't garner special treatment. The rules are the rules no matter who's asking them to be enforced. Whomsoever recieves the report doesn't check the submitter (who says you have to log in to register a complaint in the first place?) and turn it down based on whether or not the person has been around long enough. It's the story on trial, not the one to point it out.

I wouldn't be so quick to point out someone not knowing the rules, either. Rules tend to be vague and difficult to follow. On the subject, we say, "No person under 18 years." What does that mean? That you can't have an underaged person in the story? No. Can said person have sex? No. Can she appear naked? Probably not. What about just topless? Kissing, light petting? What exactly constitutes sex?

For another thing, what falls outside the line of decency when it comes to acceptably participating people in terms of fantasy? I've seen a number of stories that include "I wish I was having sex with (dog) (child) (person whilst brutally stabbing him) (person in the missionary position)." The content is still there, only the actual act isn't happening. Is it to be allowed, or not? Or are the rules so clear to you that you're able to help the rest of us understand? If so, is it possible you can help clean up certain things so the poor man gets his story across?

And I'm sorry you don't understand my previous post. At least you understand more complex things like issues involving underaged sex, which so many people have been struggling with on this site for the last ten years.

I'm genuinely curious as to your interest in whether I've submitted anything or not, or whether you want to know whether my interests lie more on the side of stories, or on that of poetry. If that's the case, then your answer is stories; I'm no hand at poetry.

Half an iced ay.

 

[bflagsst]

...Is it to be allowed, or not? Or are the rules so clear to you that you're able to help the rest of us understand? If so, is it possible you can help clean up certain things so the poor man gets his story across?

And I'm sorry you don't understand my previous post. At least you understand more complex things like issues involving underaged sex, which so many people have been struggling with on this site for the last ten years.
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It's easy just not responding to my only contention, isn't it? It's petty finding and reporting other peoples' stories because you can't figure out how to get a story accepted. Why do you have to be so dogmatic when the rules of the site have always been made open to interpretation by writers and mods alike?

Responding to your point(it was never mine) yes, I do understand the underage, bestiality, rape rules. I've written stories set in high school, first time stories, stories that reference past sexuality, all on the line open to interpretation whether they were passable or not according to the rules at the time. It's real easy writing a story without underage sex, you just don't give underage characters any type of sexuality and make sure there's 'proof' somewhere in the story saying the sexually active are 'of age'.

From the OP:

"Oh crap, yeah, I remember it all. Harmless kids stuff, really... curious exploration. Between the three of us, I was fourteen, Traci was thirteen, and Candy was twelve. Its the kind of stuff you try not to think about because it was embarrassing and you hope that no one else remembers it or at least never talks about it either."

'Curious exploration' and very specific ages of the children is a clear case of giving children sexuality. Then he goes on to say that they're showing each other their genitals. And you could of just said, 'No, I don't submit stories to this website'. Which makes things very clear, you really have no business telling someone about the rules for submissions when you have no experience.

 

[JT750]

Internet people are something else...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you an internet people too? Guess that means you're something else.

Anyhow, indicating curiousity about nudity isn't necessarily a sexual thing --which is not to deny that it can be, either. Anyway, like I originally stated, I was unclear on the specifics of the no sex relationships between minors. That confusion was perpetuated by the fact there are stories with equal or more content of a similar nature... all the more reason, then, that such older stories should be reported rather than being given a free pass because they were here for awhile.

Sorry if my being new to the site offends you... or is it because maybe I'm pointing out one of your stories under another name specifically that you decided to take issue with me? Anyway, it was not my intention (I believe I stated as much already) to get stories removed because mine won't pass, nor do I want to get mine passed by arguing what's been previously accepted. I also don't want to see writers unjustly punished, I think I made that clear as well. I'm just saying that if the site has standards then they should apply to everyone, newly arrived or long-timer alike. If that makes you feel threatened, it seems more like sour grapes than my apparently "petty" query about reporting such stories. Instead of complaining about it now, maybe you should have been more active with the site in trying to influence the direction the rules were going so that your stories wouldn't later fall into the category of "stuff that wouldn't get accepted now." And if you did try and it didn't take, I guess its just a case of Oh well, that's the way the cookie crumbles.

 

[Epmd607]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you an internet people too? Guess that means you're something else.

Anyhow, indicating curiousity about nudity isn't necessarily a sexual thing --which is not to deny that it can be, either. Anyway, like I originally stated, I was unclear on the specifics of the no sex relationships between minors. That confusion was perpetuated by the fact there are stories with equal or more content of a similar nature... all the more reason, then, that such older stories should be reported rather than being given a free pass because they were here for awhile.

Sorry if my being new to the site offends you... or is it because maybe I'm pointing out one of your stories under another name specifically that you decided to take issue with me? Anyway, it was not my intention (I believe I stated as much already) to get stories removed because mine won't pass, nor do I want to get mine passed by arguing what's been previously accepted. I also don't want to see writers unjustly punished, I think I made that clear as well. I'm just saying that if the site has standards then they should apply to everyone, newly arrived or long-timer alike. If that makes you feel threatened, it seems more like sour grapes than my apparently "petty" query about reporting such stories. Instead of complaining about it now, maybe you should have been more active with the site in trying to influence the direction the rules were going so that your stories wouldn't later fall into the category of "stuff that wouldn't get accepted now." And if you did try and it didn't take, I guess its just a case of Oh well, that's the way the cookie crumbles.

This place is a business, Champ. You're not going to dictate how it's run. The owners know about the older stories that may or may not involve underage sex. I read your first post. It seems you don't understand what 'sexuality' means. Go take a class in psychology or something, they'll explain why exhibitionism, genital stimulation, and voyeurism are significant aspects of one's development into a sexual being. Children can't be portrayed as sexual beings in the stories on this website, there are many threads that go over this.

 

[bflagsst]

This place is a business, Champ. You're not going to dictate how it's run. The owners know about the older stories that may or may not involve underage sex. I read your first post. It seems you don't understand what 'sexuality' means. Go take a class in psychology or something, they'll explain why exhibitionism, genital stimulation, and voyeurism are significant aspects of one's development into a sexual being. Children can't be portrayed as sexual beings in the stories on this website, there are many threads that go over this.

Forget it. I answered this guy's question with my first post, he just won't accept it.

"Hey, EPMD, why are there stories from ten years ago that seem to violate the current RULES of the site?"

"Oh, that's easy, Bflagsst. The site began without content, with little or no rules for what would be accepted. Stories were posted with little or no discretion, eventually new rules were put in place(or modified) as many more stories were posted and the business grew. The old stories remained, as the site owners couldn't edit or re-print something that technically belonged to the authors."

"You're wrong, EPMD! Go to Hell! I'll post any old veiled pedo crap I want to! It's my world and I have every right!"

 

[CopperSkink]

That's a very important point: To fully understand the concept of what constitutes sexuality, you must attend a psychology class as well as subscribe to multiple threads discussing that topic. It's not so simple a thing to understand.
Yet again, it was said (using the passive voice; prevents me from using the quote system) that "children can't be portrayed as sexual beings..." That one line makes me see the whole situation much more clearly than before, and from that angle I can understand how there's a significant difference between a child just being naked around another child, and two children showing each other their parts.

 

[JT750]

Forget it. I answered this guy's question with my first post, he just won't accept it.

I didn't say I wouldn't accept it. I just said that the older stories should be removed to fit with the current rules.

"Hey, EPMD, why are there stories from ten years ago that seem to violate the current RULES of the site?"

Seems like you don't want to accept change by holding on to the past when stuff may have been more acceptable then.

"Oh, that's easy, Bflagsst. The site began without content, with little or no rules for what would be accepted. Stories were posted with little or no discretion, eventually new rules were put in place(or modified) as many more stories were posted and the business grew. The old stories remained, as the site owners couldn't edit or re-print something that technically belonged to the authors."

They can't edit, but they can certainly remove.

"You're wrong, EPMD! Go to Hell! I'll post any old veiled pedo crap I want to! It's my world and I have every right!"

You can put whatever words you like in quotes, that doesn't mean that was even remotely insinuated. Like I said, seems like you're all sour grapes because something of your's could get reported and pulled because I think everyone should be held to the same standards. But I can play your game if you like.

"Don't listen to him, anyone... he's just got a bug up his ass because he can't post pedo stuff like I used to. Too bad, newb! I was here when that shit was acceptable, so my pedo stories are fine! Shut up and deal with it, don't go whining because you're not an elite awesome dood like me. Its my world because I've been around longer!"

Whatever.

 

[snoopercharmbrights]

When the NHL made the rule that everyone wear helmets, ...

What? I have to wear a helmet to post on here?

Nobody told me that - or is "helmet" another US euphemism for "safe sex"?

 

[CopperSkink]

I never wore a "helmet" before, and I never had any problems.

 

[JT750]

Helmets are for weenies.

 

[Mandala40]

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