Shop Talk: Question on Editing Style/Practices

[Angel Love]

Pehaps if I give you the link to her stories you can take a look for yourself and let me know what you think?

 

[LadyCibelle]

Ok i'm a bit disgusted now. I may be totally off the wall on this one Lady C. I looked at a couple of her stories to find that she has been ummmm *taken* by a turtle and a dog in two of them. These are supposedly mythical creatures, but they make mention of her liking to be fucked by a dog and so on. I don't know how to proceed from here.



~*angel love*~

PM sent to you now Angel....look at it and reply please.

 

[LadyCibelle]

Pehaps if I give you the link to her stories you can take a look for yourself and let me know what you think?

Great mind think alike huh?

 

[Angel Love]

Yes . . . smiles. I'm in the process of sending the return email with her link in it.

 

[LadyCibelle]

Yes . . . smiles. I'm in the process of sending the return email with her link in it.

Thanks...I'll look at it as soon as I get it.

 

[LadyCibelle]

Hmmm I'm stuck.

I don't know what to think and I wouldn't want to create problem for that author if I'm wrong.

Would somebody else look at her story and tell me what they think.....is she saving her ass by, once in a while, saying it's statues/stuffed animals etc...or is that still amount to zoophilia albeit well hidden?


The author is Deanna Troi and it's her non-human series. I've looked at 4 chapters so far and every one of them contains scene with animals...but I'm not sure if the auther is cleverly saving her ass or not.

Can you all help?

 

[Angel Love]

Hmmm I'm stuck.

I don't know what to think and I wouldn't want to create problem for that author if I'm wrong.

Would somebody else look at her story and tell me what they think.....is she saving her ass by, once in a while, saying it's statues/stuffed animals etc...or is that still amount to zoophilia albeit well hidden?


The author is Deanna Troi and it's her non-human series. I've looked at 4 chapters so far and every one of them contains scene with animals...but I'm not sure if the auther is cleverly saving her ass or not.


Can you all help?

Thank you Lady C for taking this problem out of my hands and asking for a group decision.

 

[LadyCibelle]

Thank you Lady C for taking this problem out of my hands and asking for a group decision.

No thanks needed Angel. It's complicated enough to make me want to be sure we're not doing the author a disservice by reporting her story without being 100% sure.

 

[cloudy]

No thanks needed Angel. It's complicated enough to make me want to be sure we're not doing the author a disservice by reporting her story without being 100% sure.

I skimmed the first two. A couple of things I noticed:

1) In the first one, she's fucked by a "teddy bear." When she continues in the second story, it becomes simply a "bear."

2) In the second one, she's fucked by the statue of a horse. To me, that's damn near the same thing as a horse, don't you think?

Maybe if you were to PM Laurel with the issues, LadyCibelle, and just let her know what's going on with it. I think it pushes the envelope a little too much for my tastes. As you said, it seems like bestiality stories with a little bit of CYA added as an afterthought, almost.

 

[LadyCibelle]

I skimmed the first two. A couple of things I noticed:

1) In the first one, she's fucked by a "teddy bear." When she continues in the second story, it becomes simply a "bear."

2) In the second one, she's fucked by the statue of a horse. To me, that's damn near the same thing as a horse, don't you think?

Maybe if you were to PM Laurel with the issues, LadyCibelle, and just let her know what's going on with it. I think it pushes the envelope a little too much for my tastes. As you said, it seems like bestiality stories with a little bit of CYA added as an afterthought, almost.

Yup that's exactly what I thought also but I wanted to make sure I wasn't wrong in my thinking.

Seems to me she's trying to save her ass by adding here and there mention of stuffed animals/statues etc...but the fact remains that her descriptive is still of those animals.

 

[kbate]

Deanna Troi and it's her non-human series. Can you all help?

I read 3 completely and skimmed several of the others. I am still of mixed mind concerning this author and this series of stories.

Chapter Nine - Wonderland: begins with sex with dozens of boys, proceeds to sex with a large rubber floating turtle toy, and then moves on to sex with a talking dog. By the end she has stripped and danced for a white rabbit and had sex with the king and queen of hearts...

All in all, the story probably meets the rules. The fantasy setting is established, the non-human characters are clearly fantastic animals, even if called - dog, rabbit, and turtle, real ones do not talk, wear clothing and rape passing women. She meets the standard through suspension of disbelief, none of the animals felt to me as animals in this chapter. The horse statue in the earlier chapter, as well as the possessed Teddy Bear and tentacled beast all clearly were made to be fantastic creatures.

I would have to read the next chapter of the story to decide if she has crossed the line into bestiality or has maintained suspension of disbelief.

The question - is her Jennifer screwing Secretariat or is she screwing Mr. Ed? The difference is huge.

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To date, only two stories I have edited have failed to meet my own content standards and been returned uncompleted. One was an extreme underage story, I returned that one with a warning never to send such to me again, I do not want even residue of child sex stories on my computer. The other was a good story with a bestiality chapter. I edited that story but deleted the entire chapter of distasteful content.

 

[RogueLurker]

bump ...

 

[FallingToFly]

I'm curious as to how everyone does their editing and presents it back to the author.

I tend to mark up the document in Word or WordPad ... using either red font or yellow highlights to indicate changed/added words and strikeout font to indicate things that should be removed. Comments, suggestions, recommendations and explanations are made either in blue font right in the document or in the little side comment boxes. I refuse to use Track Changes (it is the invention of the Devil). I tend to put lots of comments in ... explaining why I changed something or think that something doesn't work, if I've noticed a pattern, identifying something that was particularly well done, etc.

I send the author the marked up document so they can see the changes, comments and explanations and then its up to them whether they want to incorporate them or not. My edits are not primarily technical or proofreading edits ... at least on the first go around.

And if I'm doing it wrong ... don't tell me. But if there's an easier method ... I'd be amenable.

Corrections with red ink and strikeout, comments are done in purple inside brackets.

I also do a open page edit- the writer and I both open the document at the same time, go through it in IM line by line or on the phone, and work our way through to the end. On long pieces, we may do several sessions.

But then again *shrugs* I don't edit anymore. Every once in a blue moon I try to find an opinion on something I have in the works, but right now, I just don't care anymore. I don't want to read anyone else's work, I don't want to write anymore, and if I didn't have a dealine and commitments to make up, I wouldn't bother writing what I am writing.

And what I want to be writing is so vicious it doesn't belong anywhere but on my own site.