Smiling models at the end...

[where]

personally i find those smiling/perky scenes at the end to be highly irritating, and to completely defeat the purpose of any of the physical activities engaged in prior to that point. i understand the legalese behind why they do it, but it makes everything 100% fun and games, and folks like me this way of life is not about fun and games.

my Master and i both enjoyed the original insex site, where it was clear that quite often the women involved were not having a grand old time, that they were being pushed and challenged, and that the men using them were relishing their suffering thoroughly...for me, that is far more realistic than "okay let's do this here for fun, and when i say "red!" stop, okay?" and then everyone hugs and laughs at the end.

but because the insex depictions were so realistic and honest in their harshness (and i'll admit, sometimes cruelty), we always knew their days were numbered. thank goodness we saved what we could.

if you get off on women not having a great time in porn, you should watch commercial vanilla porn.

 

[ownedsubgal]

if you get off on women not having a great time in porn, you should watch commercial vanilla porn.

it's not about "getting off," it's about viewing erotica/pornography in which i can personally relate. the kink.com stuff is not realistic to me because that's not how i know or experience sex.

 

[where]

it's not about "getting off," it's about viewing erotica/pornography in which i can personally relate. the kink.com stuff is not realistic to me because that's not how i know or experience sex.

well it was a flippant remark, despite being essentially true.

I think that there isn't really any porn that a person can generally relate to unless it's directed by them. If I'm lucky I may find something that sparks my imagination, whether it's the surreal dreamy erotica of Andrew Blake or something off kink.com that has a resemblance to the things that turn me on.

I guess I don't look to porn to reflect my realities. However I'm not really into consuming porn. I find it tends to ultimately dull my imagination.

 

[ownedsubgal]

I think that there isn't really any porn that a person can generally relate to unless it's directed by them.

not true, with the immense variety of pornography available today. while i cannot relate to mainstream porno with it's focus on mutual pleasure and arousal, nor typical bdsm porn with it's focus on the same...i have found quite a bit of pornography (primarily "amateur," primarily from eastern countries) where the focus is on a man's needs, drives and perversions, and the females involved are considered merely vessels and tools. that does reflect my reality, therefore that is what i wish to watch.

I guess I don't look to porn to reflect my realities.

now you have a point there, many other people would probably say the same. i am probably unusual in that i don't watch porn either to escape in a sexy fantasy or for educational/training purposes, or even to be "turned on." i watch pornography to find visuals of sex that i can understand and relate to, that make sense to me. fun and games sex doesn't make sense to me, sex for mutual pleasure doesn't make sense to me, therefore it's no point in my watching it because i'm just left scratching my head and feeling pretty squicked out.

 

[Netzach]

Insex = amazing.

insexm = amazing. Hot guys being treated like shit, you know that was too good to last a minute.

 

[00Syd]

insexm = amazing. Hot guys being treated like shit, you know that was too good to last a minute.

I only recently discovered that there even WAS an Insexm, but now that I know, I've totally been searching out and perving on those images.

 

[Netzach]

I swear, if the standards of attractiveness for male and female bottoms were on par in porn, there'd be way more women interested in taking the belt to their BF's.

FemDom porn is the least inclusive of women viewers.

 

[where]

not true, with the immense variety of pornography available today. while i cannot relate to mainstream porno with it's focus on mutual pleasure and arousal, nor typical bdsm porn with it's focus on the same...i have found quite a bit of pornography (primarily "amateur," primarily from eastern countries) where the focus is on a man's needs, drives and perversions, and the females involved are considered merely vessels and tools. that does reflect my reality, therefore that is what i wish to watch.



now you have a point there, many other people would probably say the same. i am probably unusual in that i don't watch porn either to escape in a sexy fantasy or for educational/training purposes, or even to be "turned on." i watch pornography to find visuals of sex that i can understand and relate to, that make sense to me. fun and games sex doesn't make sense to me, sex for mutual pleasure doesn't make sense to me, therefore it's no point in my watching it because i'm just left scratching my head and feeling pretty squicked out.

hmmmm interesting viewpoint that you only want to watch porn that reflects your reality. I can understand that, but I don't get the point. It's like my reality is mostly doing boring mundane shit from day to day so watching something that reflects that would bore me to death. I'd rather watch a jason statham film.

maybe you could just watch videos of yourself?

 

[00Syd]

I swear, if the standards of attractiveness for male and female bottoms were on par in porn, there'd be way more women interested in taking the belt to their BF's.

FemDom porn is the least inclusive of women viewers.

Yeah, like Kink.com's new site, Divine Bitches. That site has absolutely nothing to do with female pleasure. Even though a lot of the guys are really good looking, its not attractive to me at all because most of the focus is on latex clad women, instead of on the dudes getting beat up.

(And why do I even like FemDom porn? Man, it beats me. I have absolutely no desire to cause pain to anyone, but watching hot dudes in torturous agony is SEXY.)

 

[where]

FemDom porn is the least inclusive of women viewers.

you could say that about most porn though.

*knows that one day I'll find some porn that is perfect for me*

 

[ownedsubgal]

hmmmm interesting viewpoint that you only want to watch porn that reflects your reality. I can understand that, but I don't get the point. It's like my reality is mostly doing boring mundane shit from day to day so watching something that reflects that would bore me to death. I'd rather watch a jason statham film.

maybe you could just watch videos of yourself?

the horror!!! don't even joke about such.

like i said, everyone watches porn for different reasons. i like to see porn that reflects my reality because 1. it's something i can actually comprehend, unlike other forms of sexuality, and 2. it makes me feel less alone in the world. like hey, this is natural for other folks too, you're not such a freak, etc. i feel ostracized and "different" enough in my life, i sure as heck don't want my porn making me feel that way.

 

[where]

the horror!!! don't even joke about such.

like i said, everyone watches porn for different reasons. i like to see porn that reflects my reality because 1. it's something i can actually comprehend, unlike other forms of sexuality, and 2. it makes me feel less alone in the world. like hey, this is natural for other folks too, you're not such a freak, etc. i feel ostracized and "different" enough in my life, i sure as heck don't want my porn making me feel that way.

can't be that bad, can it?

I kinda see your point, especially about it not making you feel freakish, though ironically porn just makes me feel depressed for the most part.

 

[ownedsubgal]

can't be that bad, can it?

I kinda see your point, especially about it not making you feel freakish, though ironically porn just makes me feel depressed for the most part.

why depressed?

 

[Trixabell]

Addendum... if she was all bubbly and shit immediately after a scene I would think that i didn't push hard enough.

I almost always giggle after orgasm. The more intense the experience the longer the period of time between release and giggle. I have no idea why I do this and when first experienced My Master (long-distance) was a little put off by it but now he loves and waits for it.
I just this week found a video where the sub lets a giggle go immediately after cumming and it so warmed my heart that I am not alone. Her Master simply stated, "We are just getting started."

 

[Netzach]

I almost always giggle after orgasm. The more intense the experience the longer the period of time between release and giggle. I have no idea why I do this and when first experienced My Master (long-distance) was a little put off by it but now he loves and waits for it.
I just this week found a video where the sub lets a giggle go immediately after cumming and it so warmed my heart that I am not alone. Her Master simply stated, "We are just getting started."

I always kind of dismissed the laughter endorphin thing until I bottomed for needleplay.

I am not a person whom one associates with the concept "giggle" and this particular brand of pain made me into the laughing lunatic.

That was probably more fun for the people involved than the mere concept of hurting me.

 

[where]

why depressed?

women who look like they are being forced into doing something they hate, the dead eyes and surgery enhanced tits and cunts... it's a turn off and it depresses me thinking that some of the women could be trafficked. It may be glossy and shit but it's like watching a rape.

it's why I ended up watching the odd clip on kink.com. It's why I suggested people watch mainstream porn if they wanna see women really not enjoying it.

 

[ownedsubgal]

women who look like they are being forced into doing something they hate, the dead eyes and surgery enhanced tits and cunts... it's a turn off and it depresses me thinking that some of the women could be trafficked. It may be glossy and shit but it's like watching a rape.

it's why I ended up watching the odd clip on kink.com. It's why I suggested people watch mainstream porn if they wanna see women really not enjoying it.

ah, i see. yes, we are coming from two drastically different perspectives indeed. the reality that some of the women in pornographic films could be trafficked or coerced, and that quite a few of them loathe it and do it only because they believe financially they could do nothing else...appeals to me. not in an erotic/turn-on way, but in a "yes, that reflects the reality of life" way. i have always been one more attracted to the dark side of life than the light, because again it just makes sense to me, it is something i can wrap my brain around, whereas all that fuzzy warm peaches and cream stuff continues to mystify me.

i have zero interest in watching a film of a woman enjoying (or pretending to enjoy) sex, because that is not what sex has ever been about in my world. it's like watching a soap opera, with no subtitles, in a foreign language. occasionally you may get the general gist of what's going on...but where it counts, you're completely lost. sex for mutual pleasure, or sex where women are smiling or laughing or wanting to cum is just not a language i understand. and at this point in life, no longer wish to understand honestly.

 

[intothewoods]

I almost always giggle after orgasm. The more intense the experience the longer the period of time between release and giggle. I have no idea why I do this and when first experienced My Master (long-distance) was a little put off by it but now he loves and waits for it.
I just this week found a video where the sub lets a giggle go immediately after cumming and it so warmed my heart that I am not alone. Her Master simply stated, "We are just getting started."

I have giggled before too! Weird.

I always kind of dismissed the laughter endorphin thing until I bottomed for needleplay.

I am not a person whom one associates with the concept "giggle" and this particular brand of pain made me into the laughing lunatic.

That was probably more fun for the people involved than the mere concept of hurting me.

I cried. For just a couple of minutes, and then I felt totally high.

 

[intothewoods]

It has never occurred to me to get much more out of porn than getting off. I very rarely watch porn, and find most of it terrible, but it's never even occurred to me that I should relate to it in a literal kind of way.

There is usually an element of fantasy in my sexual fantasies.

 

[rida]

Off topic:

I always kind of dismissed the laughter endorphin thing until I bottomed for needleplay.

I am not a person whom one associates with the concept "giggle" and this particular brand of pain made me into the laughing lunatic.

That was probably more fun for the people involved than the mere concept of hurting me.

I cried. For just a couple of minutes, and then I felt totally high.

Nope. No giggling after needle play.
No giggling after pain either.
No giggling after orgasms.

I think I'm wired wrong ... LOL

/off topic

 

[BiBunny]

Porn just bores me. Maybe it's because the things that happen in my actual life are more appealing to me than the shit that happens in porn? I dunno.

 

[sb2009]

I'm finding that what we use porn for is background when he's doing a really complicated tie or something that will take a while to set up..something for me to watch LOL He really doesn't like it when I say "hmm.. E needs a dentist appt next week, and K has practice on Tuesday..."

 

[intothewoods]

Off topic:





Nope. No giggling after needle play.
No giggling after pain either.
No giggling after orgasms.

I think I'm wired wrong ... LOL

/off topic

It doesn't happen often, and it's not like a giggling fit or anything, that's why it didn't occur to me that it was connected until reading the above posts.

Pain is a whole other thing for me. I have to be in a certain rhythym for me to feel relaxed afterwards. Sometimes sadists are more interested in their rhythym, not mine.

 

[ultramarineblue]

Sometimes sadists are more interested in their rhythym, not mine.

I sure don't understand why.

I giggle some. I think it is more when the wartenberg wheel or some other sharp thing is drug across my skin after pain play.

 

[00Syd]

There is usually an element of fantasy in my sexual fantasies.

Strangely enough, mine too.