So, Doms, is it because you are too inadequate in real life?

I think it's an interesting question, and the phrasing doesn't even bother me.

Like many men, I have a thirst for power, respect, honor. I enjoy the ego rush of being the center of attention, the biggest, the baddest, the best. Hubris the ancient Greeks called it.

It is not the most endearing of human qualities, but it often drives us to do great things, and it certainly holds a lot of potential for pleasure. I've never been the greatest student. I don't have the concentration to spend long hours studying, and I've reached a point where I'm really not that competitive about grades, no matter how hard I try to pump myself up.

Far from valedictorian, I did however have the highest SAT score out of the entire graduating class of my high school. In the academic circles, I was always known as the kid who was very smart, but didn't really give a fuck. Skipped too much school, partied too much, etc., and thusly wasn't really seen as a competitor. But after years of being a puzzling dichotomy, when those SAT scores came back I got a taste of domination over an entire class of people who probably didn't hold me in the highest regard before that.

To be honest, it probably wouldn't have meant as much to me if I had been at the top of my class. I knew how smart I was, but being able to shove it in the face of the phillistines was a slimy satisfaction I enjoyed immensely.

It was right around this same time that I started experimenting with BDSM. I was very awkard in high school, and didn't get a lot of attention from girls. Certainly not the kind of attention I wanted or from the girls I wanted. There were a lot of circumstances that made things difficult for me at the time, but I'll certainly admit that I often felt inadequate because of my inability to procure a mate. When I finally did nab a consistent fuck, the fact that she would allow me to do pretty much whatever sick fantasy I had the guts to act out, the fact that she would worship me and treat the dick that so many others had eschewed as if it were made of solid gold, well that was a mighty fine thing indeed.

I got a taste of what it was like to dominate the female species, and it is something I've become quite addicted to.

I often wonder if I had been more desirable in those impressionable years, or if I had a bigger dick or were better looking, would I still have this desire to dominate women. While it's impossible to know for sure, I do think the answer is yes. The nice thing about the thrill of domination is that it is a relative experience.

In high school, cumming in a girls mouth was an act of dominance which would have me floating for weeks. Not that I don't still take joy in small pleasures, but I've fried much bigger fish since then.

So does a feeling of inadequacy feed into the desire to dominate? I think quite possibly it does, but like Chris Rock said:

"If Bill Gates woke up with Oprah's money tomorrow, he'd KILL HIMSELF!

*throat slitting gesture*

'Ahhhhhh!!!! I can't even fuel my jet!'"
 
Psychology

Just wondering SeanH did you just start studying psychology or some thing, if so read more and you wont have to ask dumb ass questions, if not what prompted you to wonder about this enough to bother people. And to people who don’t like to be dominant is it because you know you are to weak to do it, or if you don’t like to be a sub is it because you know you could not take it?
 
I don't get why so many are hostile about this thread and the initial phrasing of the question.

He said that he doesn't understand this kind of behaviour at a fundamental level. Kind of.

A lot of people feel frustration when they can't gain an understanding of something that they feel a need to unravel. A lot of times that frustration builds to the point of becoming overly aggressive or hostile.

It seems that he can't seperate domination from cruelty.
 
SeanH said:
Do you feel the need to dominate someone because it's the only way you can feel like you're in control of your own life? Does the feeling of subjugating others make you feel better? Is it a repressed feeling of inadequacy?

TO be perfectly honest, this is partly true for me. There's also a lot of natural biochemical wiring involved that makes me more aggressive and a lot of complex emotional factors in my history.
 
Irresistible :)

SeanH said:
Do you feel the need to dominate someone because it's the only way you can feel like you're in control of your own life?
Nope ...
If I were not in control of me, myself and I - and thus my life - I were completely incapable of being a Domme.

SeanH said:
Does the feeling of subjugating others make you feel better?
Nope ...
I do not subjugate people - odd as it may sound. I accept a gift of submission if given to me - I do not force/take submission if not offered willingly.

SeanH said:
Is it a repressed feeling of inadequacy?
Nope ...
If I were not happy with myself, not secure in my personality, how could I be feeling able to dominate someone, how could I ever beliefe they are taking me and my dominance seriously?

All that said, I am HUMAN, with all the little inadequacies we all have, my fears, my dreams, my hopes and my wishes. No better but sure no worse than anyone else.

What is it I enjoy about domination?

What do I enjoy about good food, a glass of excellent red wine or good sex?
They all nurture a desire in me in the best possible way :)

Hecate
 
LadyAria said:
Rude little fuckwit.


I just hate it when the rude little fuckwit's ask a good question. Thanks for the wisdom, Marquis, Rosco and Hecate.

surreptitiously passing cookies around.
 
snowy ciara said:
I just hate it when the rude little fuckwit's ask a good question. Thanks for the wisdom, Marquis, Rosco and Hecate.

surreptitiously passing cookies around.

COOKIES! *pounces on snowy*

Thanks, babe. :D
 
For us, it's just something we do ... something that we enjoy, something that we don't feel complete without - not because we feel inadequate or anything, but it's like water for us, we could live without it for awhile, and substitute other things in, but our lives wouldn't be the same (not as happy or as healthy) without it.

If you just can't grasp that some people just enjoy it, then you will most likely never be able to dominate your girlfriend to her satisfaction (or yours).
 
Betticus said:
I don't get why so many are hostile about this thread and the initial phrasing of the question.

He said that he doesn't understand this kind of behaviour at a fundamental level. Kind of.

A lot of people feel frustration when they can't gain an understanding of something that they feel a need to unravel. A lot of times that frustration builds to the point of becoming overly aggressive or hostile.

It seems that he can't seperate domination from cruelty.
that's what i love about you, Bett :kiss:

there are doms who like to play humiliation for those reasons.
but there are also doms who feel more complete if they have somebody to protect, care for and nurture...like some women crave a child.
any parent will understand the joy of watching their child succeed at a task, laugh with joy, sleep safe and secure, look upon you with love, admiration and an open soul.
i think that for many doms this is their reward.

personally, if any man wanted to humiliate me in any way i wouldn't want him.
if a man sets rules that there out of love and for my own welfare, well, to me that is peace.
 
graceanne said:
COOKIES! *pounces on snowy*

Thanks, babe. :D


Welcome babe! I'm afraid you only love me for my cookies though! Which is probably a good thing, since I can't Domme my way out of a wet paper sack!
 
To all of you that tried to give an honest answer, thankyou. I have to admit the original question last night was more a howl than a question.
I think if I'd framed a question like that on the GB the flame to answer ratio would be much higher. :)
 
SeanH said:
Do you feel the need to dominate someone because it's the only way you can feel like you're in control of your own life? Does the feeling of subjugating others make you feel better? Is it a repressed feeling of inadequacy?


its simple when speaking to your Dom/Domme you must be collard ------Sean------ its symbolic of slave collars. always ask "may this one........ " when ever possible use the phrase A/all . oh and er wipe your feet on the way in and O/out again. always wash your H/hands after potty time and make other human beings feel inferior to you by making them call you something such as Sir or Lord hugegland / darkdungeon or S/similar. (get into jeremy clarksons mind set for further info)

may this one leave? its ok A/all i didnt actually sit near the fire.... yes i will close the fucking gate on the way out! jesus!
 
Okay, who put trolls on their freakin' Christmas list?

Hobbit, basing your perception of bdsm solely on the nonsense that goes on in some of the chat rooms is like learning Mandarin by watching Kung Fu movies. You may learn 1001 ways to say "you kill my teacher; now you DIE" but is that really going to be of any use when you go to China? In spite of the inflamatory manner of Sean's original question, we had a fairly decent discussion going on. If you have nothing to contribute, perhaps you should appear wise by saying nothing at all, rather than remove all doubt.
 
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dolf said:
that's what i love about you, Bett :kiss:

there are doms who like to play humiliation for those reasons.
but there are also doms who feel more complete if they have somebody to protect, care for and nurture...like some women crave a child.
any parent will understand the joy of watching their child succeed at a task, laugh with joy, sleep safe and secure, look upon you with love, admiration and an open soul.
i think that for many doms this is their reward.

personally, if any man wanted to humiliate me in any way i wouldn't want him.
if a man sets rules that there out of love and for my own welfare, well, to me that is peace.

Dolfie, no more flying cars! :rose:
 
snowy ciara said:
Double post. Sorry. Have a cookie.

I made cookies last week. They are simply yummy if you have a taste for something you can use as a throwing star or skipping stone.
 
Jees, for people who are used to getting beaten by their lovers you sure are a bunch of sensitive sissies. We invite mockery if we can't laugh along.

Besides, they usually speak Mandarin in Kung-Fu movies.
 
snowy ciara said:
Okay, who put trolls on their freakin' Christmas list?

Hobbit, basing your perception of bdsm solely on the nonsense that goes on in some of the chat rooms is like learning Japanese by watching Kung Fu movies. You may learn 1001 ways to say "you kill my teacher; now you DIE" but is that really going to be of any use when you go to Japan? In spite of the inflamatory manner of Sean's original question, we had a fairly decent discussion going on. If you have nothing to contribute, perhaps you should appear wise by saying nothing at all, rather than remove all doubt.

fair enough grass hopper, but i thought Kung Fu was chinesse? may this one leave A/all?
 
it also explains the threats last night. enjoy posh n becks :D
 
Red Sonja said:
Probably because you thought there were cookies here, too!?
graceanne said:
There aren't? *pouts* Then I'm outta here.
Caitlynne said:
There's no cookies?? :confused: :eek:
snowy ciara said:
I just hate it when the rude little fuckwit's ask a good question. Thanks for the wisdom, Marquis, Rosco and Hecate.

surreptitiously passing cookies around.
graceanne said:
COOKIES! *pounces on snowy*

Thanks, babe. :D

OMG, WHAT HAVE I DONE?!?!?!
 
Sean - your question, in its origional form, deserves an answer, I believe.

Your assumption, perhaps, is that those of Us who Dominate are looking to somehow replace or reclaim the power We believe We lack. There are, undoubtedly, dominants (case letter "d") who are sick fucks and who find the need to find their own power through the use of another. These people are called ABUSERS. They abuse others who are less powerful than they perceive themselves to be through many means.

Dominants (capital letter "D") are not abusers. Certainly, some of Us engage in activities that seem quite severe. Those We engage with consent to the level of play. Abuse is not consentual. D/s or BDSM play is.

Now - to the thought that We Dominate to meet a need - Well , We do. My need is to protect, care for, love, and please the one My Husband and I eventually invite to be Our slave. My needs are not to replace My power - rather to use the power I have to offer My best to another.

D/s, in its most true form, is a serving relationship. Personally, I don't have any regard for a Dominant who refuses to see His or Her duty to serve His or Her submissive or slave. In My way of thinking, such a Dominant is a borderline abuser. My perception and My perception only.

Perhaps that gives you a nutshell understanding. Beyond this, I doubt you will have interest in understanding the deeper nuances of Domination and of what being a Dominant means. I realize that your question may have been asked because you have a true desire to know, but I believe that you may not be ready for more.

Another 2 cents from an amazingly boring mind.....

Chloe
 
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