Some relationships are doomed from the start
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SpectreT
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My God!
<still laughing>
I thought boneheads like that were just a "Net Legend", and that anyone who actually had to type their words out, would have more than ample chance to avoid such pointy-headedness.
I'll confess to some pretty poor grammar from time to time, and more than my share of typo's, but this freak learned everything he knows from reading really bad porn. Comic books teach better english, spelling, grammar and more respect for other people than that.
Not that I said "porn" and not "erotica". The difference is the amount of class with which the material is presented.
Your intent was fulfilled, cym.
I'm chuckling.
<still laughing>
I thought boneheads like that were just a "Net Legend", and that anyone who actually had to type their words out, would have more than ample chance to avoid such pointy-headedness.
I'll confess to some pretty poor grammar from time to time, and more than my share of typo's, but this freak learned everything he knows from reading really bad porn. Comic books teach better english, spelling, grammar and more respect for other people than that.
Not that I said "porn" and not "erotica". The difference is the amount of class with which the material is presented.
Your intent was fulfilled, cym.
I'm chuckling.
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Yes, it is somewhat anal-retentive (
) and silly to correct another adult's grammar. Among teachers, though, it's hard to avoid.
Besides, in this case, the hideous writing was just another facet of the total idiocy. It just makes a convenient locus for our generalized ire at the jackass.
) and silly to correct another adult's grammar. Among teachers, though, it's hard to avoid.Besides, in this case, the hideous writing was just another facet of the total idiocy. It just makes a convenient locus for our generalized ire at the jackass.
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Whoa!
Go RisiaSkye!
What a vocab!
The guy was obviously a pragmatic pervaricator with a propensity to oratorical sonorosities too pleinastic to be expeditiously assimilated.
Definitely not the type you'd want to have giving you orders.
Even if you work the counter at McDonald's!
(had to get that out, larf)
Blue
Go RisiaSkye!
What a vocab!
The guy was obviously a pragmatic pervaricator with a propensity to oratorical sonorosities too pleinastic to be expeditiously assimilated.
Definitely not the type you'd want to have giving you orders.
Even if you work the counter at McDonald's!
(had to get that out, larf)
Blue
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MissTaken
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I just had to share/vent
Last night, a Dom that I had chatted with some months ago was on line.
He wanted me to phone him. I told him I wasn't feeling up to chit chat and definitiely didn't want to "play" on the phone. (Direct and open communication, a must.)
Her proceeded to tell me that he could make me feel better etc. That I needed a "Dom" blah blah blah.
I told him that by nature of calling himself a Dom doesn't mean that He is what I needed. So, he got all sulky. I back tracked, trying to explain I was tired and didn't mean to offend. He continued to make it an issue and was far less than understanding.
Finally, in my frustration, lacking cym's finesse, I said "Fine, fuck you."
He responded by saying....."Boy! You have issues! And you say you are a good sub?" (referring to my "fuck you" statement"
So....I e mailed him and nicely explained that subs can get pissed off and shouldn't be expected to acquiesce to every self proclaimed Dom on line. That I was sorry for the original misunderstanding, was sorry for saying "fuck you" but not sorry for being angry. I was angry because he was not willing to work through the original misunderstanding. I wished him well and told him good bye.
I was very disappointed, as I had counted him among my friends earlier this year....silly me. But, does chatting with someone on line in a friendly manner automatically give him license to expect any degree of submission? No...I think not. I only chat with those who treat me with respect, dont' expect auto submission and are interested in who I am, not simply what I will do.
Sorry...I am still smarting from his comment.
However, "fuck you" isn't generally a response I rely upon. I was just so tired.
Last night, a Dom that I had chatted with some months ago was on line.
He wanted me to phone him. I told him I wasn't feeling up to chit chat and definitiely didn't want to "play" on the phone. (Direct and open communication, a must.)
Her proceeded to tell me that he could make me feel better etc. That I needed a "Dom" blah blah blah.
I told him that by nature of calling himself a Dom doesn't mean that He is what I needed. So, he got all sulky. I back tracked, trying to explain I was tired and didn't mean to offend. He continued to make it an issue and was far less than understanding.
Finally, in my frustration, lacking cym's finesse, I said "Fine, fuck you."
He responded by saying....."Boy! You have issues! And you say you are a good sub?" (referring to my "fuck you" statement"
So....I e mailed him and nicely explained that subs can get pissed off and shouldn't be expected to acquiesce to every self proclaimed Dom on line. That I was sorry for the original misunderstanding, was sorry for saying "fuck you" but not sorry for being angry. I was angry because he was not willing to work through the original misunderstanding. I wished him well and told him good bye.
I was very disappointed, as I had counted him among my friends earlier this year....silly me. But, does chatting with someone on line in a friendly manner automatically give him license to expect any degree of submission? No...I think not. I only chat with those who treat me with respect, dont' expect auto submission and are interested in who I am, not simply what I will do.
Sorry...I am still smarting from his comment.
However, "fuck you" isn't generally a response I rely upon. I was just so tired.
SpectreT
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MissT: sorry to hear about somone you thought of as special morphing into Sphincter-boy on you. And about the finesse aspect, I think just about anyone would eventually lose their cool.
Actually, my own respose involving that word would have been a vulgar command involving an anatomically improbable act of autoeroticism.
But that's just me. I'm shy and quiet in real life, but even there, I'm pretty blunt and abrupt when I'm crabby and being annoyed.
Actually, my own respose involving that word would have been a vulgar command involving an anatomically improbable act of autoeroticism.
But that's just me. I'm shy and quiet in real life, but even there, I'm pretty blunt and abrupt when I'm crabby and being annoyed.
madelaine angel
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I swear that i work with both of those guys...they're not from england are they?
MissTaken
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SpectreT said:
Am I then to assume that meeting me wasn't terribly annoying?
Thanks, SpectreT. This Dom wasn't so special, just someone I had chatted with from time to time.
And madelaineangel? No. This guy was in the states. Now, am I to believe that assholism is a world wide epidemic?
Richard49
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assholism
Well I have travel most of this world.....and.....
yes it is a world widw epidemic and it is not gender specfic
MissTaken said:
And madelaineangel? No. This guy was in the states. Now, am I to believe that assholism is a world wide epidemic?
Well I have travel most of this world.....and.....
yes it is a world widw epidemic and it is not gender specfic
madelaine angel
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After a lighthearted discussion about bdsm at work (in which there were one or two opaque references to my darker side) one guy decided to take every opportunity to slap me on the arse on the basis that "you like that sort of thing." I reported him. He was moved somewhere else. Doesnt stop him being an asshole though. (moral, at work from now on bdsm? what's that then?)
xxxxxxx
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Re: I just had to share/vent
MissTaken wrote
"He wanted me to phone him. I told him I wasn't feeling up to chit chat and definitiely didn't want to "play" on the phone. (Direct and open communication, a must.)
Her proceeded to tell me that he could make me feel better etc. That I needed a "Dom" blah blah blah."
HIs first mistake: NO means NO.
"I told him that by nature of calling himself a Dom doesn't mean that He is what I needed. So, he got all sulky. I back tracked, trying to explain I was tired and didn't mean to offend. He continued to make it an issue and was far less than understanding."
His second mistake: No free submissive owes a dominant anything other than commom courtesy. You are not his property to command.
Finally, in my frustration, lacking cym's finesse, I said "Fine, fuck you."
"He responded by saying....."Boy! You have issues! And you say you are a good sub?" (referring to my "fuck you" statement""
His third mistake: Not admitting his mistake. Even dominants can overstep their boundaries.
"So....I e mailed him and nicely explained that subs can get pissed off and shouldn't be expected to acquiesce to every self proclaimed Dom on line. That I was sorry for the original misunderstanding, was sorry for saying "fuck you" but not sorry for being angry. I was angry because he was not willing to work through the original misunderstanding. I wished him well and told him good bye."
A classy touch by a classy lady, in my mind. YOu did not have to send him that. He did not deserve it. He was trying to "mindfuck" you.
"I was very disappointed, as I had counted him among my friends earlier this year....silly me. "
Understandable. It happens to all of us. I, a dominant, have been disappointed by three potential subs this year alone. I do not evne want to talk about last year. Forget him> He was just a lesson for you to learn.
"But, does chatting with someone on line in a friendly manner automatically give him license to expect any degree of submission? No...I think not. "
You are absolutely right. You must give him that power. Yousare not responsible for his assumptions, no matter how wrong (or right) they might be.
"only chat with those who treat me with respect, dont' expect auto submission and are interested in who I am, not simply what I will do."
You are right again. You have it well thought out Miss T.
"Sorry...I am still smarting from his comment."
Yes, it does smart, but remember, the problem is not yours, it is his problem.
"However, "fuck you" isn't generally a response I rely upon. I was just so tired. "
Hey, you are allowed to be human.
I think you showed remarkable restraint and class.
Ebony
MissTaken wrote
"He wanted me to phone him. I told him I wasn't feeling up to chit chat and definitiely didn't want to "play" on the phone. (Direct and open communication, a must.)
Her proceeded to tell me that he could make me feel better etc. That I needed a "Dom" blah blah blah."
HIs first mistake: NO means NO.
"I told him that by nature of calling himself a Dom doesn't mean that He is what I needed. So, he got all sulky. I back tracked, trying to explain I was tired and didn't mean to offend. He continued to make it an issue and was far less than understanding."
His second mistake: No free submissive owes a dominant anything other than commom courtesy. You are not his property to command.
Finally, in my frustration, lacking cym's finesse, I said "Fine, fuck you."
"He responded by saying....."Boy! You have issues! And you say you are a good sub?" (referring to my "fuck you" statement""
His third mistake: Not admitting his mistake. Even dominants can overstep their boundaries.
"So....I e mailed him and nicely explained that subs can get pissed off and shouldn't be expected to acquiesce to every self proclaimed Dom on line. That I was sorry for the original misunderstanding, was sorry for saying "fuck you" but not sorry for being angry. I was angry because he was not willing to work through the original misunderstanding. I wished him well and told him good bye."
A classy touch by a classy lady, in my mind. YOu did not have to send him that. He did not deserve it. He was trying to "mindfuck" you.
"I was very disappointed, as I had counted him among my friends earlier this year....silly me. "
Understandable. It happens to all of us. I, a dominant, have been disappointed by three potential subs this year alone. I do not evne want to talk about last year. Forget him> He was just a lesson for you to learn.
"But, does chatting with someone on line in a friendly manner automatically give him license to expect any degree of submission? No...I think not. "
You are absolutely right. You must give him that power. Yousare not responsible for his assumptions, no matter how wrong (or right) they might be.
"only chat with those who treat me with respect, dont' expect auto submission and are interested in who I am, not simply what I will do."
You are right again. You have it well thought out Miss T.
"Sorry...I am still smarting from his comment."
Yes, it does smart, but remember, the problem is not yours, it is his problem.
"However, "fuck you" isn't generally a response I rely upon. I was just so tired. "
Hey, you are allowed to be human.
I think you showed remarkable restraint and class.
Ebony
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i thank you too, Ebony.
the phrase is something my Dad taught me when i was about 9 yrs. old.It took me about 20 years to find out that ALL of the words are REAL! The phrase actually decodes to describe:
"A realistic person who tells stories using words that are difficult to comprehend"
It took me 10 minutes to learn, 20 years to understand and led me to a love affair with words which continues to this day.
As far as i know, it's not copyrighted, feel free to quote it anywhere.
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Also Ebony, thank you for your analysis of madelaine angel's situation. i am, so far, a fascinated outsider to the BDSM scene and this is a chance to see how it works in real life, between real people.
Your advice rings true to every study i've read on the "theory of BDSM principles". i really look forward to cym's comments (if she gets a chance to do so)
madelaine angel
i have a feeling that cymbidia would not have put up with that guy's behavior any more than you did.
i think you BOTH have remarkable finesse, and as ebony stated "remarkable restraint and class".
i'm really glad to have met you all.
the phrase is something my Dad taught me when i was about 9 yrs. old.It took me about 20 years to find out that ALL of the words are REAL! The phrase actually decodes to describe:
"A realistic person who tells stories using words that are difficult to comprehend"
It took me 10 minutes to learn, 20 years to understand and led me to a love affair with words which continues to this day.
As far as i know, it's not copyrighted, feel free to quote it anywhere.
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Also Ebony, thank you for your analysis of madelaine angel's situation. i am, so far, a fascinated outsider to the BDSM scene and this is a chance to see how it works in real life, between real people.
Your advice rings true to every study i've read on the "theory of BDSM principles". i really look forward to cym's comments (if she gets a chance to do so)
madelaine angel
i have a feeling that cymbidia would not have put up with that guy's behavior any more than you did.
i think you BOTH have remarkable finesse, and as ebony stated "remarkable restraint and class".
i'm really glad to have met you all.
cymbidia
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We may or may not like to be spanked, we submissives. Some like it and want more and harder. Others do not like it and need the service aspect of this to be whole. We're all different, we kinky folks, in our needs and desires.madelaine angel said:
One thing is certain: we like "that sort of thing" with whom we choose to do "that sort of thing". Just as every homosexual is not attracted to every man he sees, and every unmarried girl is not attracted to every unmarried boy she sees, so is it true that not ever submissive is attracted to everyone with a hand that could be used to spank her butt.
You may discuss BDSM at your work or anywhere, madelaine angel. That is up to you. Just because you discuss it does not mean you're inviting it from co-workers.
I would have gotten coldly furious at his touching me inappropriately and told him about the boundaries he'd violated.
I would have told him bluntly and without softening the words at all that i didn't like "that sort of thing" from him and would never like "that sort of thing" from him.
I would have warned him that if he touched me even one more time in a likewise inappropriate manner, i would be forced to report the touching.
NO ONE has a right to touch any of us in any way at any time unless we invite it.
What a sad dog of a sexually stunted little boy your co-worker is. You're better off away from him.
You handled it well.
Good for you.
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Aaahh...the zesty one herself!
Well stated, cym.
your latest avatar give me...chills
[the nipple and the spur(?)]
i'm beginning to LIKE chills! (i am lost<lol>)
Gee, looking back it was Miss Taken that Ebonyfire was consoling. She was feeling bad about a momentary loss of self-control, but Ebony pointed out several points which justified her actions.
She's another person in the forums who i've learned a lot from.
i've started looking to see if there is any munch group(?) type activity near where i live.
It seems like my life has been devoid of "flavors". i'd like to thank all of you in this forum for the peek into the "candy store". i'm really beginning to understand the meaning of "Vanilla" now.
To a tastier life!
Blue
Well stated, cym.
your latest avatar give me...chills
[the nipple and the spur(?)]
i'm beginning to LIKE chills! (i am lost<lol>)
Gee, looking back it was Miss Taken that Ebonyfire was consoling. She was feeling bad about a momentary loss of self-control, but Ebony pointed out several points which justified her actions.
She's another person in the forums who i've learned a lot from.
i've started looking to see if there is any munch group(?) type activity near where i live.
It seems like my life has been devoid of "flavors". i'd like to thank all of you in this forum for the peek into the "candy store". i'm really beginning to understand the meaning of "Vanilla" now.
To a tastier life!
Blue
cymbidia
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That little spur thingie is a medical device, Blue, something with which doctors test for neurologic responses.
Well, it's sometimes a neurologic testing device.
Sometimes, in our hands, it's a sensation device, , a device with which one of us offers sensation of varying degrees to another one of us. In that incarnation, it's not unlike a flogger or the sharp bite of nipple clamps.
We're sensation sluts, most of us. We like fancy medical devices that we can put to perverted uses as much as we like cruising Home Base and giggling at a lot of things Mr and Mrs America would go goggle-eyed to see us use in the privacy of our own homes.
I can't remember the name of that little medical device, Blue, cuz i'm way tired and my brain has shut down all higher-ability cognitive areas. It thinks i should go to sleep now.
Munches are fun. They're cool places to make new friends. Go and do, Blue. Come alive inside your skin again. Come play in our sandbox for awhile. No one will kick sand in your face and no one will try to bully you into doing anything. You won't touch or be touched until you're ready. Respect and honesty and safety is the coin of our realm.
Lots of flavors is good. Sometimes one wants Vanilla. Sometimes one wants Baseball Nut. Sometimes one wants Chocolate Parfait. Sometimes one wants Strawberry. It's good to have choices, isn't it?
Well, it's sometimes a neurologic testing device.
Sometimes, in our hands, it's a sensation device, , a device with which one of us offers sensation of varying degrees to another one of us. In that incarnation, it's not unlike a flogger or the sharp bite of nipple clamps.
We're sensation sluts, most of us. We like fancy medical devices that we can put to perverted uses as much as we like cruising Home Base and giggling at a lot of things Mr and Mrs America would go goggle-eyed to see us use in the privacy of our own homes.
I can't remember the name of that little medical device, Blue, cuz i'm way tired and my brain has shut down all higher-ability cognitive areas. It thinks i should go to sleep now.
Munches are fun. They're cool places to make new friends. Go and do, Blue. Come alive inside your skin again. Come play in our sandbox for awhile. No one will kick sand in your face and no one will try to bully you into doing anything. You won't touch or be touched until you're ready. Respect and honesty and safety is the coin of our realm.
Lots of flavors is good. Sometimes one wants Vanilla. Sometimes one wants Baseball Nut. Sometimes one wants Chocolate Parfait. Sometimes one wants Strawberry. It's good to have choices, isn't it?
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Ultra cool Cym
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Cop4u_69
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Re: I just had to share/vent
Good for you Miss T..........
Men like him gives all men not just Dom's... a bad rap..........
We have chatted for hours at a time and I have gotten to know you pretty good and I say that you did the right thing by telling him F.U.
Any progress on the munch or the trip?
MissTaken said:
Good for you Miss T..........
Men like him gives all men not just Dom's... a bad rap..........
We have chatted for hours at a time and I have gotten to know you pretty good and I say that you did the right thing by telling him F.U.
Any progress on the munch or the trip?
MissTaken
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Thank you, cop.
He hasn't bothered me since and frankly, he is blocked and ignored all over my pc !
Some of the folks in apex have suggested we do an event in the Lake Placid area.
Seems there are lots of people there who might be interested.
Any thoughts on that?
The trip?
Umm I dunno
He hasn't bothered me since and frankly, he is blocked and ignored all over my pc !
Some of the folks in apex have suggested we do an event in the Lake Placid area.
Seems there are lots of people there who might be interested.
Any thoughts on that?
The trip?
Umm I dunno
Rambling Rose
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'you not like'?
What not you like, cym? You not like stupid bullyman?
(You showed much more restraint and graciousness than I would have. Kudos to MissT as well. I have a bit of a swift and sharp tongue and an embarrassing lack of patience when it comes to this kind of thing. )
What not you like, cym? You not like stupid bullyman?
(You showed much more restraint and graciousness than I would have. Kudos to MissT as well. I have a bit of a swift and sharp tongue and an embarrassing lack of patience when it comes to this kind of thing. )
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i've always found the mind even sexier that TITS! (& i LOVE tits)
If this message is any indication of how your mind works with your higher cognitive functions disabled, it's no WONDER i find you so stimulating!
i hope we are both successful in our quests for new ways to express our loving selves.
cymbidia said:That little spur thingie is a medical device, Blue, something with which doctors test for neurologic responses.
Well, it's sometimes a neurologic testing device.
Sometimes, in our hands, it's a sensation device, , a device with which one of us offers sensation of varying degrees to another one of us. In that incarnation, it's not unlike a flogger or the sharp bite of nipple clamps.
We're sensation sluts, most of us. We like fancy medical devices that we can put to perverted uses as much as we like cruising Home Base and giggling at a lot of things Mr and Mrs America would go goggle-eyed to see us use in the privacy of our own homes.
I can't remember the name of that little medical device, Blue, cuz i'm way tired and my brain has shut down all higher-ability cognitive areas. It thinks i should go to sleep now.
Munches are fun. They're cool places to make new friends. Go and do, Blue. Come alive inside your skin again. Come play in our sandbox for awhile. No one will kick sand in your face and no one will try to bully you into doing anything. You won't touch or be touched until you're ready. Respect and honesty and safety is the coin of our realm.
Lots of flavors is good. Sometimes one wants Vanilla. Sometimes one wants Baseball Nut. Sometimes one wants Chocolate Parfait. Sometimes one wants Strawberry. It's good to have choices, isn't it?
If this message is any indication of how your mind works with your higher cognitive functions disabled, it's no WONDER i find you so stimulating!
i hope we are both successful in our quests for new ways to express our loving selves.
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